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Post by tanbass on May 13, 2016 12:20:52 GMT -5
Hilarious. You cry "talk football" but are the first to talk negatively about the individual. Anybody who doubts this can check this very thread. And then you throw in a discriminatory shot to boot. That is a bannable offense. Would it be okay for you to say, "you'd be amazed at the results black man." if I were African American? Where are the liberal champions when these age digs happen? I've never seen one utter a single word of protest. And now you have twice referred to me as a child, but have the gall to pretend you don't name call. Absurd. The only one crying here is you.....I am here to talk football....but will call you out every single time you act like a dick. So either act like a big boy, or put me on ignore little girl. You won't ruin this forum like Rusty did. Most of the people on this new forum know who causes all the drama......and that would be you. But keep fighting the good fight..... You've been asked by the admin to tone it down...and we all know you are simply incapable. Keep showing your colors......
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 14:08:53 GMT -5
Hilarious. You cry "talk football" but are the first to talk negatively about the individual. Anybody who doubts this can check this very thread. And then you throw in a discriminatory shot to boot. That is a bannable offense. Would it be okay for you to say, "you'd be amazed at the results black man." if I were African American? Where are the liberal champions when these age digs happen? I've never seen one utter a single word of protest. And now you have twice referred to me as a child, but have the gall to pretend you don't name call. Absurd. The only one crying here is you.....I am here to talk football....but will call you out every single time you act like a dick. So either act like a big boy, or put me on ignore little girl. You won't ruin this forum like Rusty did. Most of the people on this new forum know who causes all the drama......and that would be you. But keep fighting the good fight..... You've been asked by the admin to tone it down...and we all know you are simply incapable. Keep showing your colors...... The guy who tosses discriminatory slurs at people acts like he's on the high road. Hilarious. And now you call me female as an insult. You're a pitiful POS. I have no intention of ignoring you, drama queen.
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Post by tanbass on May 13, 2016 14:57:01 GMT -5
The guy who tosses discriminatory slurs at people acts like he's on the high road. Hilarious. And now you call me female as an insult. You're a pitiful POS. I have no intention of ignoring you, drama queen. Okay Mr internet tough guy.....what a friggen joke you are. You will be called out for every post you are a dick....count on it douchbag....or is it Rusty SENIOR? Miserable old coot
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 15:18:37 GMT -5
The guy who tosses discriminatory slurs at people acts like he's on the high road. Hilarious. And now you call me female as an insult. You're a pitiful POS. I have no intention of ignoring you, drama queen. Okay Mr internet tough guy.....what a friggen joke you are. You will be called out for every post you are a dick....count on it douchbag....or is it Rusty SENIOR? Miserable old coot^ Bigot.
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Post by tanbass on May 13, 2016 15:56:05 GMT -5
Okay Mr internet tough guy.....what a friggen joke you are. You will be called out for every post you are a dick....count on it douchbag....or is it Rusty SENIOR? Miserable old coot^ Bigot. Laughing at you Dick
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 16:18:25 GMT -5
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Post by agcsbill on May 14, 2016 6:23:58 GMT -5
.. and with those words, BB had no intention to use the tape during the game, therefore, interpreted the memo to mean filming is OK for later use. (-; I doubt the memo was condoning the "honor system", lol. If the tape could be accessed by team persons during that game, it was a violation of the memo. No excusing the schmuck factor on this. Having been a writer of compliance related materials, that memo is poorly written. It could, should, have made it clear about camera position on the field as being not allowed in ANY circumstances, period.
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Post by prolate0spheroid on May 14, 2016 7:15:36 GMT -5
I doubt the memo was condoning the "honor system", lol. If the tape could be accessed by team persons during that game, it was a violation of the memo. No excusing the schmuck factor on this. Having been a writer of compliance related materials, that memo is poorly written. It could, should, have made it clear about camera position on the field as being not allowed in ANY circumstances, period. I don't know Bill. The memo seems pretty damn clear to me: "Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game." The approved rule is this: "Any use by any club at any time, from the start to the finish of any game in which such club is a participant, of any communications or information-gathering equipment, other than Polaroid-type cameras or field telephones, shall be prohibited, including without limitation videotape machines, telephone tapping, or bugging devices, or any other form of electronic devices that might aid a team during the playing of a game." The memo was merely meant to clarify that any videotaping from locations accessible to coaches during the game would be considered "use . . . of information-gathering equipment . . . that might aid a team during the playing of a game." There are other rules in the NFL's operations manual that prohibit videotaping from unenclosed locations. The Pats' activities also violated those rules. I think it's undeniable that the Pats' violated the rules. Whether they were cheating (i.e., using the information to gain a competitive advantage within games) is not proved at all and has been denied by the Pats.
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Post by digger0862 on May 14, 2016 8:01:01 GMT -5
No. Since September 2007 there is no team in the history of sports that is as scrutinized as the Patriots are. Prying eyes (and camera phones) are everywhere. They would be stupid to try anything against the rules and they aren't stupid.
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Post by agcsbill on May 16, 2016 19:02:19 GMT -5
Pro, I hear ya! From that one game in which a memo was used to further clarify a rule, which does say "..during the playing of the game." the haters have gone off the cliff with what that one infraction implies. Also, there may have been other games that season in which this occurred and only the Patriots were fingered. Who knows!
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Post by philskiw on May 16, 2016 19:27:12 GMT -5
Pro, I hear ya! From that one game in which a memo was used to further clarify a rule, which does say "..during the playing of the game." the haters have gone off the cliff with what that one infraction implies. Also, there may have been other games that season in which this occurred and only the Patriots were fingered. Who knows! People went off cause they destroyed the tapes and the cell phone. They see it as habitual. I've talked to a bunch of people all over the place about both. You will never convince them different.
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Post by agcsbill on May 17, 2016 6:22:47 GMT -5
Pro, I hear ya! From that one game in which a memo was used to further clarify a rule, which does say "..during the playing of the game." the haters have gone off the cliff with what that one infraction implies. Also, there may have been other games that season in which this occurred and only the Patriots were fingered. Who knows! People went off cause they destroyed the tapes and the cell phone. They see it as habitual. I've talked to a bunch of people all over the place about both. You will never convince them different. NFL destroyed the tapes, as we all know, not the Patriots, and they may have shown other teams were clearly doing the same thing. It was all about making the Patriots look bad. As for the phone, you either believe Brady, who says Wells told him they DID NOT need the phone or the NFL claiming they did want the phone. Either way, witch hunts against the winningest team in the NFL since 2001.
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Post by bostate on May 17, 2016 6:43:59 GMT -5
People went off cause they destroyed the tapes and the cell phone. They see it as habitual. I've talked to a bunch of people all over the place about both. You will never convince them different. NFL destroyed the tapes, as we all know, not the Patriots, and they may have shown other teams were clearly doing the same thing. It was all about making the Patriots look bad. As for the phone, you either believe Brady, who says Wells told him they DID NOT need the phone or the NFL claiming they did want the phone. Either way, witch hunts against the winningest team in the NFL since 2001. Wells has never disputed that he told the Brady team that he did not need the phone. Brady got the new iPhone 6 for free. He gets a free phone about every 4 months. Brady also got a new pool cover. There was information about his pool cover on the old phone. That somehow made it newsworthy. "Journalists" discussed Brady's new pool cover including the color and cost on the news. This is what happens when Brady's personal information gets out. This is why Brady doesn't autograph his old phones and sell them on EBay.
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Post by philskiw on May 17, 2016 7:44:32 GMT -5
NFL destroyed the tapes, as we all know, not the Patriots, and they may have shown other teams were clearly doing the same thing. It was all about making the Patriots look bad. As for the phone, you either believe Brady, who says Wells told him they DID NOT need the phone or the NFL claiming they did want the phone. Either way, witch hunts against the winningest team in the NFL since 2001. Wells has never disputed that he told the Brady team that he did not need the phone. Brady got the new iPhone 6 for free. He gets a free phone about every 4 months. Brady also got a new pool cover. There was information about his pool cover on the old phone. That somehow made it newsworthy. "Journalists" discussed Brady's new pool cover including the color and cost on the news. This is what happens when Brady's personal information gets out. This is why Brady doesn't autograph his old phones and sell them on EBay. I'm not arguing with either of you guys. I'm just saying what people out in the world think. If it was the Jests people here (myself included) would be all over them and wouldn't look into detailed facts. Wouldn't you be like that?
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Post by philskiw on May 17, 2016 7:45:40 GMT -5
Furthermore the tape destruction was/is looked at as Kraft getting more favors from the NFL.
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