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Post by wonderdrums on Jul 30, 2020 19:52:47 GMT -5
Even Solder opted out. Must be some residual hate stemming from his time in NE under BB. Or Joe Judge is contaminated from his time in NE, so he brought the toxicity to the NYG. Either way, it traces back to NE. Yes! All roads lead back to One Patriot Place. Miami and Detroit are doomed too. You’ll see! 🙃 |
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Post by thejuice on Jul 30, 2020 21:46:45 GMT -5
lazar almost always nails it. and i think he did here. again, i think chungs teaching to the young guys and leadership is what theyll miss most with him. as you mentioned as far as his play on the field, while still good last year, it had begun to dip. but with joejuan and dugger they honestly should be able to make up for the loss of him without much if any issue... honestly, on the field they could maybe be an upgrade over him. but as rkarp pointed out earlier this year, it was a puzzling extension to give him. but with all the cap space well have next year, it wont be a big deal at all to take that hit next season. the huge loss is hightower. they really need to bring in another vet LB to help lessen that sting. cant put all the weight on bentley, simon, a few rookies and a new guy in copeland (who is promising). again with chung, losing high's leadership is going to hurt a lot too. Agreed. Hightower is obviously the concern and nobody will replace him at least not this year. But...I think the best secondary in the league can protect this young linebacking core. Disguise weakness and put them in the best position to succeed. John Simon and Wino could really shine this year. Bentley is a question mark but we all remember how he looked in limited opps his 1st pre season. We really only need 1 of Dugger Jennings or Uche to make a big impact in year 1. I like those odds. The real concern is the D line. Will they expose the LB core? excellent analysis. agreed. i think they can live with what they have in the secondary. i like you agree that the area they definitely need to add at least 1 more body, if not 2, is on the DL, particularly the interior of it. |
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Post by carawaydj on Jul 30, 2020 22:00:53 GMT -5
I wonder if any of these guys got tested for antibodies before they opted out? Also surprised there is no return mechanism should they get infected at the grocery story in September. After all, although I get it that the risk will be higher playing a contact sport, I'm pretty sure most of the 4.6M who got infected in the USA weren't playing football. There is a decent chance some of the players who opted out in the NFL will get infect anyway, get over it, and wish they could play.
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Post by philskiw on Jul 31, 2020 4:54:00 GMT -5
These guys better come back in shape next year.
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Post by rkarp on Jul 31, 2020 6:36:10 GMT -5
my point on Cajuste was that if he does elevate into the RT spot, the team would need a swing/back up T. That could be Herron? Newhouse was "serviceable" last season? that was with an aging vitamin salesman back there. Maybe with Cam, Newhouse would look better? Define serviceable? He didn't actually get anyone killed? I'm in the ABN Camp, anybody but Newhouse. What about Cunningham? Can't be worse than Newhouse. well, I look at it this way. Newhouse was a guy that came in once the season started, not having a preseason/training camp with the team. not only did he play over 2 guys that had the entire training camp and preseason with the team, he played 2 positions. RT and LT. he wasn't great of course. but he was never replaced, or even looked at to be replaced. the team won 12 games. of course, that may be more of a commentary on the other players at the positions, and on the team. Newhouse played 730 snaps. he had 3 penalties. he allowed 6 sacks. is that serviceable? |
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Post by muzwell on Jul 31, 2020 6:54:34 GMT -5
Define serviceable? He didn't actually get anyone killed? I'm in the ABN Camp, anybody but Newhouse. What about Cunningham? Can't be worse than Newhouse. well, I look at it this way. Newhouse was a guy that came in once the season started, not having a preseason/training camp with the team. not only did he play over 2 guys that had the entire training camp and preseason with the team, he played 2 positions. RT and LT. he wasn't great of course. but he was never replaced, or even looked at to be replaced. the team won 12 games. of course, that may be more of a commentary on the other players at the positions, and on the team. Newhouse played 730 snaps. he had 3 penalties. he allowed 6 sacks. is that serviceable? Statistically that’s borderline adequate. It’s certainly not good. But stats aside, he failed the eye test. Mine anyway. It was only because the QB that will no longer be named got rid of the ball extremely fast that those numbers weren’t far worse. It was a jailbreak when he was in there. His guy was past him seemingly every snap. I’d like to see the advanced stats on him. I don’t think they would be pretty. I would seriously bring back Jordan Devey ahead of ABN. |
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Post by rkarp on Jul 31, 2020 6:57:56 GMT -5
well, I look at it this way. Newhouse was a guy that came in once the season started, not having a preseason/training camp with the team. not only did he play over 2 guys that had the entire training camp and preseason with the team, he played 2 positions. RT and LT. he wasn't great of course. but he was never replaced, or even looked at to be replaced. the team won 12 games. of course, that may be more of a commentary on the other players at the positions, and on the team. Newhouse played 730 snaps. he had 3 penalties. he allowed 6 sacks. is that serviceable? Statistically that’s borderline adequate. It’s certainly not good. But stats aside, he failed the eye test. Mine anyway. It was only because the QB that will no longer be named got rid of the ball extremely fast that those numbers weren’t far worse. It was a jailbreak when he was in there. His guy was past him seemingly every snap. I’d like to see the advanced stats on him. I don’t think they would be pretty. I would seriously bring back Jordan Devey ahead of ABN. serviceable is borderline adequate |
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Post by salcon on Jul 31, 2020 9:37:23 GMT -5
Newhouse was one the worst Tackles I've ever seen in a Patriot's uniform. He was borderline adequate or serviceable at best on the Right side. On the left side he was terrible. Brady was constantly rolling out to the right because he didn't trust Newhouse would hold his block and he was going to get creamed. I guess Brady was trying to protect himself for his next gig. Who could blame him.
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Post by rkarp on Jul 31, 2020 11:09:30 GMT -5
Newhouse was one the worst Tackles I've ever seen in a Patriot's uniform. He was borderline adequate or serviceable at best on the Right side. On the left side he was terrible. Brady was constantly rolling out to the right because he didn't trust Newhouse would hold his block and he was going to get creamed. I guess Brady was trying to protect himself for his next gig. Who could blame him. if BB is the best HC in the history of football, and I am very willing to agree that he is, and if Scar is the best OL coach in the history of football, and again I am very willing to agree, what does this say about both of them not allowing Cunningham or Eluemunor to see the field for any meaningful snaps?? Maybe Newhouse does not look too bad? |
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Post by Wozzy on Jul 31, 2020 11:16:21 GMT -5
if BB is the best HC in the history of football, and I am very willing to agree that he is, and if Scar is the best OL coach in the history of football, and again I am very willing to agree, what does this say about both of them not allowing Cunningham or Eluemunor to see the field for any meaningful snaps?? Maybe Newhouse does not look too bad? Eluemunor had a specialized role as a run down lineman and as the 6th man on short downs and goal line. I think they took Onwenu in the hopes he could fill that role but provide more. Cunningham is an enigma, why is he on this team again? |
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Post by TrueChamp on Jul 31, 2020 11:21:36 GMT -5
Newhouse is gonna be just fine as Cam can run for his life better than the other guy. Everything's gravy.
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Post by rkarp on Jul 31, 2020 11:35:55 GMT -5
Newhouse is gonna be just fine as Cam can run for his life better than the other guy. Everything's gravy. when you say other guy, do you mean the aging vitamin salesman? |
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Post by TrueChamp on Jul 31, 2020 11:38:45 GMT -5
Newhouse is gonna be just fine as Cam can run for his life better than the other guy. Everything's gravy. when you say other guy, do you mean the aging vitamin salesman? The guy who has selfishly risked every person's life in the country by throwing footballs to teammates. |
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Post by thejuice on Jul 31, 2020 13:08:33 GMT -5
Newhouse was one the worst Tackles I've ever seen in a Patriot's uniform. He was borderline adequate or serviceable at best on the Right side. On the left side he was terrible. Brady was constantly rolling out to the right because he didn't trust Newhouse would hold his block and he was going to get creamed. I guess Brady was trying to protect himself for his next gig. Who could blame him. if BB is the best HC in the history of football, and I am very willing to agree that he is, and if Scar is the best OL coach in the history of football, and again I am very willing to agree, what does this say about both of them not allowing Cunningham or Eluemunor to see the field for any meaningful snaps?? Maybe Newhouse does not look too bad? you might be reading too much into it with those 2 OL you mentioned. remember that they were brought in late in the game last season, just before the start of the regular season. they never shouldve been expected to play any kind of meaningful snaps last year beucase of that. they were essentially break glass in case of emergency type guys, at least thats what i thought. i think we find out what BB thinks of them this year, as to whether they make the roster or not or play any kind of meaningful role. a wait and see game. i think last year BB saw two guys that were young that he liked and that he could get cheaply (in cunninghams case at least) that he probably had rated higher in their draft year than what he gave up in trade last season. extra draft picks so to speak.... so i think year 2 is telling. kind of just a wait and see imo. with there being a huge need at either starting RT or swing OT, my hope is one of these guys can step up (maybe jermaine enough to play LG putting Thuney at RT? |
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