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Post by rkarp on Aug 29, 2024 15:32:30 GMT -5
Your imagination doesn’t count as real life. Few here are as divorced from reality as you. BB on McAfee’s draft show said Maye was really raw… doubt he’d do anything different… except prioritize offensive line. In Karpy's defense, Bill did start Mac over Cam. Bill was also true to his word the best players play this summer, Maye has been better than JB
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Post by froglegs on Aug 29, 2024 15:39:36 GMT -5
In Karpy's defense, Bill did start Mac over Cam. Bill was also true to his word the best players play this summer, Maye has been better than JB Yeah Mayo even stated: "This is a true competition and I would say at this point, Drake has outplayed Jacoby". What a joke! I belong to the camp of "learning by doing" so I would start Maye even if I understand that the OL might be worse than the OL Mac had when he started.
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Post by DaPatriots on Aug 29, 2024 16:46:00 GMT -5
Quick press conference because Mayo will accidentally reveal this isn't his preference. Oops. If it wasn’t the Head Coach’s preference, then whose preference was it? And why? Wolfe and AVP
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Post by rkarp on Aug 29, 2024 16:54:18 GMT -5
Oops. If it wasn’t the Head Coach’s preference, then whose preference was it? And why? Wolfe and AVP I thought JK and Mike Lombardi were making the decisions?
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Post by thejuice on Aug 29, 2024 16:58:14 GMT -5
I thought JK and Mike Lombardi were making the decisions? no, i think its a combo of robyn glaser, bill belichick and nike... but they usually flip a coin and go with whoever wins the flip out of nike and glaser. its definitely not some peoples golden child, mr wolf
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Post by salcon on Aug 29, 2024 17:29:54 GMT -5
As far as decision making goes, as a true collaborative they can all point their fingers at each other so no one person has to take all the blame. Genius!
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Post by rkarp on Aug 29, 2024 17:38:01 GMT -5
As far as decision making goes, as a true collaborative they can all point their fingers at each other so no one person has to take all the blame. Genius! They dont have to The current mess is on previous management
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Post by salcon on Aug 29, 2024 18:09:01 GMT -5
As far as decision making goes, as a true collaborative they can all point their fingers at each other so no one person has to take all the blame. Genius! They dont have to The current mess is on previous management [br See, thejuice was right. You don't know shyte.
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Post by patsfan2007 on Aug 29, 2024 19:17:29 GMT -5
Calling a presser to name a starting QB......lame. Me thinks: that's stupid, giving your opponent 1 1/2 weeks to prepare. Me also thinks: if your organization is run by the marketing folk.....sad Me thinks further: the ghost of BB rolling is his grave....rightfully so. While the concept here is fine, do you really think the Bengals are going to change their game plan for either Brissett or Maye for game #1?
And given that they waffled around on the starter during the last two weeks they needed to be clear/decisive to the team early in the process of preparing for game #1. And as soon as they told the team, the news was going to leak - this is definitely not the BB organization any more and between 65 players and 100 staff there were going to be a lot of unnamed sources talking to reporters.
You always do what gives you a better chance to win. Every decision you make has to be consistent with that goal. BB said this repeatedly, and I agreed.
If you stack enough good small decisions together, you end up a winner. If you stack too many bad small decisions together, then you end up at the bottom.
So it's not really about any single small decision that will make or break, but the accumulation. It's also the example you set that at all times you need to do what is best.
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Post by DaPatriots on Aug 29, 2024 19:24:33 GMT -5
In defense of the Brissett choice, preseason football is not regular season football, so Maye still has something to observe and learn before the training wheels come off.
Training always involves demonstration before expecting the trainee to perform.
Maye needs regular season game training to finish his ORIENTATION.
That being said. Organized football doesn't change that much.
Just more pressure. That’s it. So it's not essential, imo.
This is the spoon feeding method. Not the sink or swim method.
I like the sink or swim method.
It gives you the laser focus nothing else can.
The 1st time I ever got laid off, everyday all I could think about is finding a job. Sink or swim. Laser focus. How do I prevent that from happening again?
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Post by Wozzy on Aug 29, 2024 21:38:45 GMT -5
In Karpy's defense, Bill did start Mac over Cam. Mac started strong, then fell off a cliff... 2021, year one. But he deserved to start over an old guy with a dead shoulder in his throwing arm at that time. Cam was toast after multiple surgeries, Mac has one really strong joint practice and didn't muck it up too much in preseason... but he only managed to be good for 13 weeks then sucked when everyone figured him out. In BB's defense, he likely didn't want to draft Mac in the first place and wanted to bench or trade him afterwards but was dissuaded by the young owner. Mac could probably still turn out to be good one day, his balls have to drop and he needs to learn how to take accountability.
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Post by Wozzy on Aug 29, 2024 21:55:56 GMT -5
there's also the facts that he started Mac day 1 and never prioritized the OL, but ok The pre-draft sales pitch for Mac Jones was "the most pro ready QB in the draft" and he was 23 year's old. The sales pitch for Maye was "the most talented but most green prospect," and he was 21. I have to remind you of ^ that? Every season BB dedicated himself to good line play, it's a tough thing to accomplish consistently for over two decades and occasionally it didn't work out well for a multitude of reasons. But when you look at their overall record and stats during that time, they clearly had some of the better fronts in the NFL. They had a great line in 2021, injuries and dysfunction made up the final two years, but that had as much to do with injuries and the power struggle between the new young owner, his GM in waiting and Bill. Collaboration only works when everyone is collaborating.
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Post by kjfitone on Aug 30, 2024 0:27:00 GMT -5
Much as I want to see Maye play I'd go with starting Brisette as well. If they had an average, even slightly below average o-line then maybe maye but this line may be the leagues worst. I think about what happened with David Carr when the Texans threw him out there behind that horrible line and he was sacked 76 times.
Opening the season on the road against a potential Super Bowl team makes it even tougher for him. Give him a few weeks to watch and learn from the sideline. Then start him with some safe stuff while he gets comfortable. Hopefully the online will improve and the young receivers get more experienced as well.
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Post by rkarp on Aug 30, 2024 10:25:07 GMT -5
Calling a presser to name a starting QB......lame. Me thinks: that's stupid, giving your opponent 1 1/2 weeks to prepare. Me also thinks: if your organization is run by the marketing folk.....sad Me thinks further: the ghost of BB rolling is his grave....rightfully so. disagree it would have been a major distraction to the players with the media asking them dailey if they had a preference get in front of it get it out of the way
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Post by patsfan2007 on Aug 30, 2024 13:04:39 GMT -5
I played this at 1/4 speed.
To Drake Maye: copy Tom's throwing motion.
Specifically, as Tom transitions from backswing to forward motion, note how the angle at the elbow stays at 90 degrees or less. This is crucial for accuracy. Maye grossly violates this on most throws, and this is a problem.
Easy to fix. So to Maye, Mayo and AVP: just fvcking fix it. It's not rocket science.
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