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Post by rkarp on Oct 25, 2017 8:05:08 GMT -5
Some of the beat writers have called Allen a good blocker...I dunno. I do think his blocking has been very good. he had a couple of blatant missed assignments against the Falcons. |
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Post by fisher on Oct 25, 2017 9:20:02 GMT -5
Is it play calling when the RB's gain lots of yards running up the middle even but when plays are called for Gillislee, the play runs wide which the OL has proved it can't do...  ?... Run blocking needs to get more consistent and that will be either demonstrated in future games or not.. As far as comments on the fan favorite Blount, watched a little of eagles game and he had a run of 14 yards but on the other 7'carries he had almost no yards... So much for Blount force trauma... |
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Post by texaspat on Oct 25, 2017 9:45:26 GMT -5
Is it play calling when the RB's gain lots of yards running up the middle even but when plays are called for Gillislee, the play runs wide which the OL has proved it can't do... ?... Run blocking needs to get more consistent and that will be either demonstrated in future games or not.. As far as comments on the fan favorite Blount, watched a little of eagles game and he had a run of 14 yards but on the other 7'carries he had almost no yards... So much for Blount force trauma... True. Gillislee may be a younger, better all around RB than Blount...but Blount was a very good fit as a Patriot. He relished his role in New England, and he loved playing for the Pats. In some ways, he reminded me of Antwain Smith, who ran in the early dynastic years.
It didn't help Blount that Philly starting LT Jason Peters went down for the season last week after tearing up his knee: www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-jason-peters-halapoulivaati-vaitai-20171024.html
This injury could put Philly in the market for Houston's holdout LT, Duane Brown: profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/24/duane-brown-could-still-be-traded/
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Post by agcsbill on Oct 25, 2017 17:22:26 GMT -5
It is too early to judge that trade. That said, I'm not buying this business about Dorsett running a bad route on that pick that wasn't, because of the penalty. Brady tried to force a play. He made a bad decision. It happens even to the best of them. I agree, it was just a bad decision on Brady's part. Even the greatest of all time will make mistakes once in a while, very rare but it will happen again at some point. What's different about Brady is in the rare event he makes a mistake he always bounces back on the very next play. How many of you recall the motioning Brady made just before the pass? That ball was in the air for a long time and in that time Dorsett may not have understood the gestures, did not run to where Brady tried to direct him and where he ultimately threw the ball. All in all, a QB can throw a pass to a receiver, who at the time of the release is wide open, then in the couple seconds the pass is in the air a defender rushes in. |
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Post by texaspat on Oct 26, 2017 3:06:25 GMT -5
I agree, it was just a bad decision on Brady's part. Even the greatest of all time will make mistakes once in a while, very rare but it will happen again at some point. What's different about Brady is in the rare event he makes a mistake he always bounces back on the very next play. How many of you recall the motioning Brady made just before the pass? That ball was in the air for a long time and in that time Dorsett may not have understood the gestures, did not run to where Brady tried to direct him and where he ultimately threw the ball. All in all, a QB can throw a pass to a receiver, who at the time of the release is wide open, then in the couple seconds the pass is in the air a defender rushes in. I hadn't previously noticed Brady trying to direct Phillip Dorsett in the area that he threw. But, you're right. Brady did appear to be signaling to him. But Dorsett was well covered, with two DBs right on him. So, regardless of whether Dorsett picked up as to how Brady was directing him, the throw appeared to be ill advised. Brady was trying to force a throw into tight double coverage. It's the same type of thing he used to do a bit too often in 2009 and 2010 when Randy Moss was around...trying to force a deep ball to Randy, despite tight double coverage. |
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Post by agcsbill on Oct 26, 2017 7:09:50 GMT -5
How many of you recall the motioning Brady made just before the pass? That ball was in the air for a long time and in that time Dorsett may not have understood the gestures, did not run to where Brady tried to direct him and where he ultimately threw the ball. All in all, a QB can throw a pass to a receiver, who at the time of the release is wide open, then in the couple seconds the pass is in the air a defender rushes in. I hadn't previously noticed Brady trying to direct Phillip Dorsett in the area that he threw. But, you're right. Brady did appear to be signaling to him. But Dorsett was well covered, with two DBs right on him. So, regardless of whether Dorsett picked up as to how Brady was directing him, the throw appeared to be ill advised. Brady was trying to force a throw into tight double coverage. It's the same type of thing he used to do a bit too often in 2009 and 2010 when Randy Moss was around... trying to force a deep ball to Randy, despite tight double coverage.But, TP, did you notice who was wide open at the time of the interception? The defender!!!!! If the defender could get over to where the ball came down where was Dorsett? In the least he could have been there battling for the catch. Either way, the play technically never happened due to the penalty. some good fortune for TB on that play! |
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Post by texaspat on Oct 26, 2017 9:38:26 GMT -5
I hadn't previously noticed Brady trying to direct Phillip Dorsett in the area that he threw. But, you're right. Brady did appear to be signaling to him. But Dorsett was well covered, with two DBs right on him. So, regardless of whether Dorsett picked up as to how Brady was directing him, the throw appeared to be ill advised. Brady was trying to force a throw into tight double coverage. It's the same type of thing he used to do a bit too often in 2009 and 2010 when Randy Moss was around... trying to force a deep ball to Randy, despite tight double coverage.But, TP, did you notice who was wide open at the time of the interception? The defender!!!!! If the defender could get over to where the ball came down where was Dorsett? In the least he could have been there battling for the catch. Either way, the play technically never happened due to the penalty. some good fortune for TB on that play! Come on, now. This one's on Tom. Dorsett is what...5'10", 180 pounds, being covered by 6'0", 211 pound Atlanta SS Keanu Neal, and 5'10, 185 pound CB, Robert Alford. Alford was in front of Dorsett, and Neal was bodied up on him. Brady simply made a bad decision in trying to force a deep pass into double coverage. |
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Post by garytx on Oct 26, 2017 11:50:19 GMT -5
Players of the Game Atlanta Coaching Staff. And stupid player who got Roughing the Passer. 4th Down play before the half, was the only play that made the big difference. 10-0 and 17-0 big difference. INT in end zone would have been a huge point swing. Brady got away with 2 screw-ups in back to back weeks, that resulted in points for the Pats. Skrine's drop, that ended up in a TD, and Last weeks Penalty, that resulted in a TD. My grade B. OL-A RB-A Defense- A WR -B+ Special Teams A Coaching Staff-A 3 if you count his failure to read the blitz that resulted in him getting blindside sacked and nearly fumbling the ball away to Atlanta. That, IMO, was clearly on him and not the OL. He didn't read it and didn't change the play and/or protection. Surprised he missed this. It was pretty obvious and I'm no QB on any level. |
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Post by ATJ on Oct 26, 2017 13:17:01 GMT -5
3 if you count his failure to read the blitz that resulted in him getting blindside sacked and nearly fumbling the ball away to Atlanta. That, IMO, was clearly on him and not the OL. He didn't read it and didn't change the play and/or protection. Surprised he missed this. It was pretty obvious and I'm no QB on any level. I was as well. It appeared as though Brady didn't even look in Campbell's direction prior to the snap - and that is not typical of Brady at all. |
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Post by agcsbill on Oct 26, 2017 18:39:38 GMT -5
But, TP, did you notice who was wide open at the time of the interception? The defender!!!!! If the defender could get over to where the ball came down where was Dorsett? In the least he could have been there battling for the catch. Either way, the play technically never happened due to the penalty. some good fortune for TB on that play! Come on, now. This one's on Tom. Dorsett is what...5'10", 180 pounds, being covered by 6'0", 211 pound Atlanta SS Keanu Neal, and 5'10, 185 pound CB, Robert Alford. Alford was in front of Dorsett, and Neal was bodied up on him. Brady simply made a bad decision in trying to force a deep pass into double coverage. Yes, I commented about how that pass was a bad play. Fortunately, other than discussing it, there are no other results to worry about since the play did not count!!  |
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Post by texaspat on Oct 26, 2017 22:12:02 GMT -5
Come on, now. This one's on Tom. Dorsett is what...5'10", 180 pounds, being covered by 6'0", 211 pound Atlanta SS Keanu Neal, and 5'10, 185 pound CB, Robert Alford. Alford was in front of Dorsett, and Neal was bodied up on him. Brady simply made a bad decision in trying to force a deep pass into double coverage. Yes, I commented about how that pass was a bad play. Fortunately, other than discussing it, there are no other results to worry about since the play did not count!! Good eye spotting Brady trying to maneuver his receiver on that play. I initially had missed that. The upcoming game against the Chargers should provide a tough test. The New England OL is going to have their hands full with the Bolts front seven. Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa are two of the best pass rushers in the league. |
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?... Run blocking needs to get more consistent and that will be either demonstrated in future games or not..
