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Post by Wozzy on Dec 11, 2017 9:34:46 GMT -5
His whole counter to the facts is that the teams don't play everyone else every year so some years they play weak divisions and some years they play stronger divisions. That argument would make sense if we were talking about two or three or even four years. However, we are talking about 15 (and now almost 16) years. In that time the also rans have played each division in their conference FIVE times and in the other conference have played three of the divisions FOUR times and the other one THREE times. In additions to that they have played the corresponding finisher in their conference (other two divisions) THIRTY times. That is one helluva large sample so anyone that has ever studied even elementary statistics knows that the differences in who you play wash out because of the size of the sample. So, his "you don't play everyone" counter is pure hogwash. Playoffs mean nothing because of what you have said above. He is just to stubborn to admit he is wrong when faced with incontrovertible facts. He also still argues that yards matter, which they do but ONLY if they result in points. You can take the train to get to the stadium or you can take your car or you can walk. None of that matters even though if you take your car you are more likely to get there faster. In the end, the only thing that matters is that you get to the stadium by game time. Likewise yards and points. It is only points that count towards winning the game. But, as I said before to him: "I'll leave you to your delusions. I want you to be happy and if that is what it takes......" Oh, you made another excellent point. If the Admin in his alter ego (TFB12) hurls insults, it encourages others to do the same. You don't tell your children to not smoke a joint when you, yourself, are shooting up the hard stuff. Agreed, the simple fact that we've dominated for near two decades in a league geared toward parity is exactly why its pure BS. When BB entered the AFCEast as a Patriot, the Dolphins and Jets were both playoff teams with very strong defenses. Attrition over time caused by having to play the Pats twice annually also likely forced a great many coaching prospects to avoid the AFCEast like the plague knowing they have an uphill climb to even make the playoffs. Look who gets hired in the AFC East since Saban failed miserably... the dregs, the castoffs, the no names and wildcards who nobody else was looking to hire. His defense mechanism is an age old internet one employed by the untenable since the early days of BDC. When you can't refute facts with simple logic, hurls insults, say you've already answered questions you haven't, and finish with some lame "boom there goes the dynamite" tag line suggesting you've already won. It's bad enough that we have to read Patriot haters in the comment sections of online content across the entire internet, that the same garbage is being recycled here by supposed "fans" is some self hating BS. Cowturd is and always has been an "any which way the wind blows" commentator who will say one week Aaron Rogers is the best and Brady the next, depending on who played better that week, he repeats fan boy nonsense with no real football or sports knowledge at all. I'm done with this conversation, you can't engage someone who refuses to stick to facts, hurls insults and has to have the last word "I know you are but what am I" effect as if the last comment in the thread is the winner. In short I have no time for self hating Pat's fans, we already have the entire football watching free world who hates us. I'll never understand Negative Nancy's or how something can be considered the best ever and simultaneously suck at the same time. Its like hating the color of ones own skin, sad and pathetic, I pity them because they'll never truly enjoy the taste of real success. And we won't always have it this good...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 11:03:18 GMT -5
Let's look closely at the epitome of the playoff argument that claims the AFCE is weak: the AFCN and their 12 playoff berths compared to the AFCE's 4.
2016 - The AFCE had two playoff teams to one.
2015 - The AFCN had two teams make it, but the Jets matched the Steelers 10-6 record.
2014 - This is a big year in which 3 teams from AFCN made it. Yet the Bills missed matching their two 10-6 records by one game only.
2013 - Tie, one each. The combined records of the AFCN non-division winners was worse than those of the AFCE.
2012 - AFCN 2-1, it clearly had one non-division winner team better than our other three.
2011 - A 3-1 year for the AFCN. Jets were within one game of a berth.
2010 - AFCN 2-1. Jets are within one win of a berth (11 wins).
2009 - Two each.
2008 - AFCN 2 to 1. Pats matched the Ravens 11-5.
2007 - One each.
So, over 10 years the AFCE either matched, exceeded or was within one game of matching the AFCN for playoff spots 90% of the time.
Basically the AFCE lost some tie-breakers and fell short one stinkin' game from the potential playoff spot almost every year. That's why my hypothetical analogy was spot on.
Making the playoffs more times by a small margin doesn't make the difference in the divisions a large margin!
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Post by coolade on Dec 11, 2017 17:16:20 GMT -5
Ok.. We have agcbills point about pats record outside division. Check.
Slgdevs point about winning percentages comparison between divisions. over lengthy years sample size . Check
Now we have babes analysis confirming coolades assertion the weak AFC east division argument to be stinking pile of cyber dogshit.
Tb12 please stfu... Lol.
^^^^ gee what are the chances of that happening..? LMAO 😂
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Post by kjfitone on Dec 11, 2017 18:12:28 GMT -5
He's an idiot and always changes his opinion in order to fit whatever his daily agenda he's pushing. Last I checked the Superbowl isn't determined by who wins the AFC east. The Jets have been to two AFC championship games over the past 6 years and if the bills, Jets, or dolphins didn't play the Patriots twice a year and got to play the browns or any other team they'd all win more games lol.
Last year when the Celtics didn't trade the pick for an aging veteran he blasted them for it. Once the draft happened and they picked Tatum he said it was genius to hold Pat during the trade deadline and not trade the pick. He's an idiot at times.
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Post by TFB12 on Dec 11, 2017 19:02:46 GMT -5
Ok.. We have agcbills point about pats record outside division. Check. Slgdevs point about winning percentages comparison between divisions. over lengthy years sample size . Check Now we have babes analysis confirming coolades assertion the weak AFC east division argument to be stinking pile of cyber dogshit. Tb12 please stfu... Lol. ^^^^ gee what are the chances of that happening..? LMAO 😂 You don’t even watch the games! So you can just STFU.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 19:47:25 GMT -5
Ok.. We have agcbills point about pats record outside division. Check. Slgdevs point about winning percentages comparison between divisions. over lengthy years sample size . Check Now we have babes analysis confirming coolades assertion the weak AFC east division argument to be stinking pile of cyber dogshit. Tb12 please stfu... Lol. ^^^^ gee what are the chances of that happening..? LMAO 😂 You don’t even watch the games! So you can just STFU. Is STFU back in style here now??? If so, I'm going to wear it out!!! LOL
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 19:48:08 GMT -5
He's an idiot and always changes his opinion in order to fit whatever his daily agenda he's pushing. Last I checked the Superbowl isn't determined by who wins the AFC east. The Jets have been to two AFC championship games over the past 6 years and if the bills, Jets, or dolphins didn't play the Patriots twice a year and got to play the browns or any other team they'd all win more games lol. Last year when the Celtics didn't trade the pick for an aging veteran he blasted them for it. Once the draft happened and they picked Tatum he said it was genius to hold Pat during the trade deadline and not trade the pick. He's an idiot at times. He's certainly not an idiot.
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Post by coolade on Dec 11, 2017 21:10:22 GMT -5
Ok.. We have agcbills point about pats record outside division. Check. Slgdevs point about winning percentages comparison between divisions. over lengthy years sample size . Check Now we have babes analysis confirming coolades assertion the weak AFC east division argument to be stinking pile of cyber dogshit. Tb12 please stfu... Lol. ^^^^ gee what are the chances of that happening..? LMAO 😂 You don’t even watch the games! So you can just STFU. Wrong again... Lol. Yeah right I post on a football forum for 17 years . (way Before you managed to put your internet whack job first post about how much you love Brady .. Lol and made your first tb12 moniker. ) and don't watch games by team I post about. That accusation is almost as bright as you looking at a picture of my fiance holding a notebook showing nothing... And you posting 20 times about her breast size. You should be banned for that but you're the admin right? Are you suspending yourself? Lol.
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Post by TFB12 on Dec 11, 2017 21:30:03 GMT -5
You don’t even watch the games! So you can just STFU. Wrong again... Lol. Yeah right I post on a football forum for 17 years . (way Before you managed to put your internet whack job first post about how much you love Brady .. Lol and made your first tb12 moniker. ) and don't watch games by team I post about. That accusation is almost as bright as you looking at a picture of my fiance holding a notebook showing nothing... And you posting 20 times about her breast size. You should be banned for that but you're the admin right? Are you suspending yourself? Lol. Pipe down you big liar. You don’t watch the Pats games but talk about the games acting like you watched them. Total Rusty move. I should be banned?? You received 6 warnings in November... why hasn’t the admin banned you yet?? You deserve to be banned before me. This is a football board and You been bragging about some mail order bride for the past few weeks like a virgin on prom night, people calling you out on it so you posted a picture then claim she’s a 34 C when she looks like she has the build of a starved young boy. Pirates dream... sunken chest. LMAO! You are such a fraud...
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Post by coolade on Dec 11, 2017 23:15:07 GMT -5
^^^^ "admin " speaks...
No wrong. I had (1) warning for calling babe a clown for claiming BB did "jackshit" on Brady's behalf during deflategate.
You may have reported me .. But "admin" didn't notify me . Kinda confusing for you. Are you fabricating things now to try and build fraud case against me for disagreeing with you..?
Funny that I didn't report you huh? Not much that would have done for me ..lol.
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Post by TFB12 on Dec 11, 2017 23:39:32 GMT -5
^^^^ "admin " speaks... No wrong. I had (1) warning for calling babe a clown for claiming BB did "jackshit" on Brady's behalf during deflategate. You may have reported me .. But "admin" didn't notify me . Kinda confusing for you. Are you fabricating things now to try and build fraud case against me for disagreeing with you..? Funny that I didn't report you huh? Not much that would have done for me ..lol. I’m pretty sure the admin could post on here the admin log showing all the posts that were reported on you and the messages he sent you, it would prove you are lying again.
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Post by coolade on Dec 12, 2017 0:04:44 GMT -5
I'll copy my message page. Will that work for you?
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Post by coolade on Dec 12, 2017 0:29:56 GMT -5
Personal Messages Create Message
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This is my message page.
Both warnings were for posts criticizing Babe . Admin notified me on Babes behalf.
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Post by TFB12 on Dec 12, 2017 0:51:50 GMT -5
Personal Messages Create Message Inbox Outbox Archive . « Prev 1 Next » Conversation history of board creation last reply: Admin 23 hours ago Conversation Living there. last reply: coolade Nov 30, 2017 at 5:59pm Conversation Concerning Post #128584 last reply: Admin Nov 26, 2017 at 1:38am Conversation Concerning Post #123584 last reply: Admin Nov 4, 2017 at 4:21am Conversation Concerning Post #111034 last reply: Admin Sep 28, 2017 at 2:15am _____________ This is my message page. Both warnings were for posts criticizing Babe . Admin notified me on Babes behalf. Are you sure you want to go there? I’m sure the admin will post the actual report log and conversations between the two of you if you continue to deny it. I would think very carefully how you reply to this.
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Post by coolade on Dec 12, 2017 4:23:16 GMT -5
You don’t even watch the games! So you can just STFU. Is STFU back in style here now??? If so, I'm going to wear it out!!! LOL Are you admin Jr.? Tb12 setting new rules on the fly with his inflamed fantasy boy posts..? That's ok. Grown up boys like myself can handle a few baseless insults . They're kinda funny . The point of this place is to be entertaining, not create the boring board of stale farts going off about football stats. Really. Embrace the diversity and thank God for creativity. .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 12:36:58 GMT -5
Is STFU back in style here now??? If so, I'm going to wear it out!!! LOL Are you admin Jr.? Tb12 setting new rules on the fly with his inflamed fantasy boy posts..? That's ok. Grown up boys like myself can handle a few baseless insults . They're kinda funny . The point of this place is to be entertaining, not create the boring board of stale farts going off about football stats. Really. Embrace the diversity and thank God for creativity. . Through what demented thought process do you construe anything I said as me being admin jr?
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Post by kjfitone on Dec 12, 2017 12:49:18 GMT -5
He's an idiot and always changes his opinion in order to fit whatever his daily agenda he's pushing. Last I checked the Superbowl isn't determined by who wins the AFC east. The Jets have been to two AFC championship games over the past 6 years and if the bills, Jets, or dolphins didn't play the Patriots twice a year and got to play the browns or any other team they'd all win more games lol. Last year when the Celtics didn't trade the pick for an aging veteran he blasted them for it. Once the draft happened and they picked Tatum he said it was genius to hold Pat during the trade deadline and not trade the pick. He's an idiot at times. He's certainly not an idiot. Poor choice of words on my part he's actually very intelligent I've watched him for years but his comments on the Patriots being lucky are idiotic in my opinion. He goes back and forth. What he said today about the Patriots loss last night was spot on imo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 12:52:03 GMT -5
He's certainly not an idiot. Poor choice of words on my part he's actually very intelligent I've watched him for years but his comments on the Patriots being lucky are idiotic in my opinion. He goes back and forth. What he said today about the Patriots loss last night was spot on imo. He's just trying to make a buck, like the rest of them. Any devaluing of the Pats success sells well in this fallen world.
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Post by coolade on Dec 12, 2017 18:36:36 GMT -5
Are you admin Jr.? Tb12 setting new rules on the fly with his inflamed fantasy boy posts..? That's ok. Grown up boys like myself can handle a few baseless insults . They're kinda funny . The point of this place is to be entertaining, not create the boring board of stale farts going off about football stats. Really. Embrace the diversity and thank God for creativity. . Through what demented thought process do you construe anything I said as me being admin jr? Lol. You take this place too seriously., IMO.
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Post by lowfbiq on Dec 13, 2017 16:08:08 GMT -5
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Post by Shelly on Dec 13, 2017 16:20:43 GMT -5
Are those the results of each year totaled? IOW if in year X team A played six teams that made the playoffs that year, the results of those six games are what are counted towards the eventual totals? How about a link so we can see all the teams?
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Post by lowfbiq on Dec 13, 2017 16:34:02 GMT -5
Are those the results of each year totaled? IOW if in year X team A played six teams that made the playoffs that year, the results of those six games are what are counted towards the eventual totals? How about a link so we can see all the teams? Yes as far as I know. I don't know Sheldon, might be on the guys blog somewhere. bostonsportsinf.blogspot.com/
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