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Post by mthurl on Mar 28, 2024 19:55:27 GMT -5
I think anyone that watched Drake Maye today has to think…he is effortless, ridiculously talented, nowhere close to his immense ceiling, and throws the ball to terrible receivers. He may not even be there at three. He can put that football anywhere he wants to, and he’s no guarantee to be there at three…and it’s very very rare to have someone like him sitting there at three. They will be total MORONS if they don’t select him. And I would not be surprised if they f’d this up. I heard he threw an out INTO THE STANDS with no pass rush! After watching every throw and run from his entire 2023 season, and todays workout, I wouldn’t care if he threw a pass through an Uber driver’s window today. This kid is an extremely talented quarterback - a quarterback that may need some development (not raw) but a little refinement - and to me that’s 1,000% worthy of the number 3 pick in any draft, never mind one selecting by a team that absolutely is desperate for a QB.
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Post by mthurl on Mar 28, 2024 20:05:25 GMT -5
Maye day is the real deal…size, arm, speed..intelligence ..work ethic. And enjoys being coached hard (per him).. have a feeling that Wash. now has a tough decision. Needs to work on some things but only 21 he has the time to get those straightened out…by that time the receiver room will be upgraded. The thing I’m getting more and more impressed with is his actual 2023 tape (that I keep hearing is so disappointing). Got a chance to watch all of it today, his team isn’t very good and he is. I didn’t realize all the different ways this kid can throw the ball….off balance, quick throws, throws into tight spaces, throws requiring outstanding trajectory. And he is very tough and athletic. Honestly, I can’t believe there is a chance he is going to be there at 3. Jayden Daniels could be better, who knows? Same for Caleb. Truth is all of them could be great, and/or all of them could be busts. But the pure talent and upside is 1,000% there on Drake Maye. I take him without hesitation at number 3.
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Post by wazzu on Mar 28, 2024 20:09:32 GMT -5
Maye day is the real deal…size, arm, speed..intelligence ..work ethic. And enjoys being coached hard (per him).. have a feeling that Wash. now has a tough decision. Needs to work on some things but only 21 he has the time to get those straightened out…by that time the receiver room will be upgraded. The thing I’m getting more and more impressed with is his actual 2023 tape (that I keep hearing is so disappointing). Got a chance to watch all of it today, his team isn’t very good and he is. I didn’t realize all the different ways this kid can throw the ball….off balance, quick throws, throws into tight spaces, throws requiring outstanding trajectory. And he is very tough and athletic. Honestly, I can’t believe there is a chance he is going to be there at 3. Jayden Daniels could be better, who knows? Same for Caleb. Truth is all of them could be great, and/or all of them could be busts. But the pure talent and upside is 1,000% there on Drake Maye. I take him without hesitation at number 3. Absolutely agree.
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Post by mthurl on Mar 28, 2024 20:51:25 GMT -5
I think anyone that watched Drake Maye today has to think…he is effortless, ridiculously talented, nowhere close to his immense ceiling, and throws the ball to terrible receivers. He may not even be there at three. He can put that football anywhere he wants to, and he’s no guarantee to be there at three…and it’s very very rare to have someone like him sitting there at three. They will be total MORONS if they don’t select him. And I would not be surprised if they f’d this up. what about the teams that watched every one of his games the past 2 seasons? think they were swayed by todays work out? I think the teams that watched every one of his games the last two seasons know how talented he is and how bad his team was. I no longer think Maye will be there at 3, reports are scouts think he will go 2 overall, and that Chicago has something to think about at 1.
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Post by wazzu on Mar 28, 2024 20:56:07 GMT -5
what about the teams that watched every one of his games the past 2 seasons? think they were swayed by todays work out? I think the teams that watched every one of his games the last two seasons know how talented he is and how bad his team was. I no longer think Maye will be there at 3, reports are scouts think he will go 2 overall, and that Chicago has something to think about at 1. Sadly, I think you’re right. In the media/mock draft world it appears somewhat likely that he may be available at #3. But in reality, I bet Bears/Skins are much higher on him than the media tells us. I hope we’re wrong, but I think he’s gone by #2.
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 28, 2024 21:56:10 GMT -5
Pro days should be replaced with player visits. If a team wants to work a player out it should be on their terms. I find it strange that we’re seeing guys refuse to do medicals though. They’re about to get paid millions by a company that should be able to see that the product they’re purchasing isn’t a bad investment due to health. You have to have pro days, not for the guys who have the juice to refuse giving medicals to certain teams, you do it for the guys that don't. There's countless guys who got jobs in the last rounds of the draft or as UDFA's because they impressed at pro days and teams took a longer look at their tape. Most of the big schools allow standout players from tiny colleges in the same state to come to their pro day and show their stuff. Guys at the top of the draft are refusing medicals for teams that have no chance at drafting them, I don't see a problem with that. My bigger problem is players not working out or providing minimal workouts. I don't like a guy who is afraid to compete.
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 28, 2024 22:20:16 GMT -5
You’re right about one thing. He may not be there at three. There’s a pretty good chance the Redskins take him and that he has been the guy the whole time. We’ll see. I hope not. I really want Maye in New England. And you’re right about something else. It would not be surprising at all if they screwed this up. If you're a Pat's fan who wants Maye, there's at least a couple things working in your favor. System fit. Washington's system is more conducive to Jayden Daniels skillset than Mayes. He's a high/low/run passer, and they'll utilize a lot of RPO. Same with Maye in NE, he could be a perfect west coast guy. Brissett is also the perfect guy to teach him, a disciplined tall pocket passer. Also the demographic in Washington might be more conducive to Daniels, half the population is black. He'd sell tickets for sure. The draft is wide open after Caleb Williams... and wouldn't it send people in a tailspin if the Bears didn't select him. Jayden Daniels was a force in college, with good coaching, in the right system, with a load of talent around him in all three phases... he could be dangerous. I see a Randall Cunningham/Jalen Hurts type, but the draft is a total crapshoot.
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Post by wazzu on Mar 28, 2024 22:23:27 GMT -5
You’re right about one thing. He may not be there at three. There’s a pretty good chance the Redskins take him and that he has been the guy the whole time. We’ll see. I hope not. I really want Maye in New England. And you’re right about something else. It would not be surprising at all if they screwed this up. If you're a Pat's fan who wants Maye, there's at least a couple things working in your favor. System fit. Washington's system is more conducive to Jayden Daniels skillset than Mayes. He's a high/low/run passer, and they'll utilize a lot of RPO. Same with Maye in NE, he could be a perfect west coast guy. Brissett is also the perfect guy to teach him, a disciplined tall pocket passer. Also the demographic in Washington might be more conducive to Daniels, half the population is black. He'd sell tickets for sure. The draft is wide open after Caleb Williams... and wouldn't it send people in a tailspin if the Bears didn't select him. Jayden Daniels was a force in college, with good coaching, in the right system, with a load of talent around him in all three phases... he could be dangerous. I see a Randall Cunningham/Jalen Hurts type, but the draft is a total crapshoot. All valid points. And while I want Maye, I also really like Daniels for the reasons that you mentioned. Bottom line, NE is in a great spot here.
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 28, 2024 22:34:18 GMT -5
All valid points. And while I want Maye, I also really like Daniels for the reasons that you mentioned. Bottom line, NE is in a great spot here. Maye or JJ either way if I'm NE, those are your type of system guys... if you're supposed to be the Packers/49ers now. Either guy should sit for a year and learn, Brissett could keep you competitive. Fix the line, get some weapons, in that order.
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 28, 2024 23:10:00 GMT -5
I heard he threw an out INTO THE STANDS with no pass rush! After watching every throw and run from his entire 2023 season, and todays workout, I wouldn’t care if he threw a pass through an Uber driver’s window today. This kid is an extremely talented quarterback - a quarterback that may need some development (not raw) but a little refinement - and to me that’s 1,000% worthy of the number 3 pick in any draft, never mind one selecting by a team that absolutely is desperate for a QB. At least we still have one sane fucker on this board...
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Post by fisher on Mar 29, 2024 5:00:39 GMT -5
All valid points. And while I want Maye, I also really like Daniels for the reasons that you mentioned. Bottom line, NE is in a great spot here. Maye or JJ either way if I'm NE, those are your type of system guys... if you're supposed to be the Packers/49ers now. Either guy should sit for a year and learn, Brissett could keep you competitive. Fix the line, get some weapons, in that order. All In good time my man…3 is QB, 34 LT…68 WR… WR, TE, T, RB DB, ….let QB sit for a while….this doesn’t include other teams playe4s getting released …I would still look into Becton and Gilmore…but that’s just me.
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Post by backbay on Mar 29, 2024 7:26:38 GMT -5
Perhaps it's a way for them to control who could draft them. would cost players a lot of money no team will agree/sign a contract to a player that does not pass a physical. yu going to take a player in rd 1 and find out he has a broken foot and he will miss the season? I thought every player drafted have to have a team physical regardless of whether players offer "medicals" pre-draft to no teams, selected teams, or all teams??
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Post by thejuice on Mar 29, 2024 7:53:09 GMT -5
If you're a Pat's fan who wants Maye, there's at least a couple things working in your favor. System fit. Washington's system is more conducive to Jayden Daniels skillset than Mayes. He's a high/low/run passer, and they'll utilize a lot of RPO. Same with Maye in NE, he could be a perfect west coast guy. Brissett is also the perfect guy to teach him, a disciplined tall pocket passer. Also the demographic in Washington might be more conducive to Daniels, half the population is black. He'd sell tickets for sure. The draft is wide open after Caleb Williams... and wouldn't it send people in a tailspin if the Bears didn't select him. Jayden Daniels was a force in college, with good coaching, in the right system, with a load of talent around him in all three phases... he could be dangerous. I see a Randall Cunningham/Jalen Hurts type, but the draft is a total crapshoot. All valid points. And while I want Maye, I also really like Daniels for the reasons that you mentioned. Bottom line, NE is in a great spot here. Agree with that…I just wish I had more confidence that the collaboration station wasn’t going to somehow screw this up?
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Post by digger0862 on Mar 29, 2024 8:58:44 GMT -5
After watching every throw and run from his entire 2023 season, and todays workout, I wouldn’t care if he threw a pass through an Uber driver’s window today. This kid is an extremely talented quarterback - a quarterback that may need some development (not raw) but a little refinement - and to me that’s 1,000% worthy of the number 3 pick in any draft, never mind one selecting by a team that absolutely is desperate for a QB. At least we still have one sane fucker on this board... Sometimes the throw just gets away. I was playing left field and threw home on a base hit and I threw it over the backstop, lol. I was normally pretty accurate.
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 29, 2024 19:16:22 GMT -5
All In good time my man…3 is QB, 34 LT…68 WR… WR, TE, T, RB DB, ….let QB sit for a while….this doesn’t include other teams playe4s getting released …I would still look into Becton and Gilmore…but that’s just me. I wouldn't bother with Becton. Andrus Peat can play OT at a high level and they should have signed him yesterday... along with a bunch of guys but Okorafor. Gilmore I'd love to bring back.
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 29, 2024 19:41:28 GMT -5
At least we still have one sane fucker on this board... Sometimes the throw just gets away. I was playing left field and threw home on a base hit and I threw it over the backstop, lol. I was normally pretty accurate. No doubt lol!
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