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Apr 18, 2024 16:03:06 GMT -5
Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 16:03:06 GMT -5
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Apr 18, 2024 16:32:11 GMT -5
Post by digger0862 on Apr 18, 2024 16:32:11 GMT -5
Brady was always good to his offensive linemen. He knew how important they were to his success.
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Post by muzwell on Apr 18, 2024 17:38:15 GMT -5
Salary cap violation. Brady fined $1 million and Pats docked a first round pick. Yes, I know it was with the Bucs. Where did he learn that?
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Apr 18, 2024 19:23:06 GMT -5
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Post by philskiw on Apr 18, 2024 19:23:06 GMT -5
Salary cap violation. Brady fined $1 million and Pats docked a first round pick. Yes, I know it was with the Bucs. Where did he learn that? good thing this didn’t come out when Bb was here. Thunderstick would have really used that ban hammer. Shout out to the ban hammer in honor of Lionel Joe
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Apr 18, 2024 20:02:22 GMT -5
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 18, 2024 20:02:22 GMT -5
Tom Brady made the single greatest gesture of “leadership” in the modern age, he took less money from 2014-2019 to help his team game the NFL salary cap.
There's no bigger example of doing more to win, millions of dollars means a lot more than platitudes about “leadership.”
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Apr 19, 2024 4:56:10 GMT -5
Post by backbay on Apr 19, 2024 4:56:10 GMT -5
Tom Brady made the single greatest gesture of “leadership” in the modern age, he took less money from 2014-2019 to help his team game the NFL salary cap. There's no bigger example of doing more to win, millions of dollars means a lot more than platitudes about “leadership.”didn't Mahomes just restructure his contract with the same intent?
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 19, 2024 5:02:39 GMT -5
didn't Mahomes just restructure his contract with the same intent? Mahomes moved cap around, everyone does that. Brady took less money from 2014-2019 so his team could spend on the team around him, that’s unheard of. And to BB’s credit they played in 4 SB’s and won three of them, he didn’t squander that sacrifice.
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Apr 19, 2024 5:13:41 GMT -5
Post by fisher on Apr 19, 2024 5:13:41 GMT -5
Tom Brady made the single greatest gesture of “leadership” in the modern age, he took less money from 2014-2019 to help his team game the NFL salary cap. There's no bigger example of doing more to win, millions of dollars means a lot more than platitudes about “leadership.”How much less did he get during that period? I know he got cash up front plus his salary…always curious as to whether it’s fact or fiction.
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Apr 19, 2024 5:22:52 GMT -5
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 19, 2024 5:22:52 GMT -5
How much less did he get during that period? I know he got cash up front plus his salary…always curious as to whether it’s fact or fiction. He made roughly 15M per when his peers, the best of the best, were making 20-25 million. Then he went to the Bucs and doubled his salary.
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Apr 19, 2024 15:01:35 GMT -5
Post by fisher on Apr 19, 2024 15:01:35 GMT -5
How much less did he get during that period? I know he got cash up front plus his salary…always curious as to whether it’s fact or fiction. He made roughly 15M per when his peers, the best of the best, were making 20-25 million. Then he went to the Bucs and doubled his salary. Are you taking into consideration the signing bonuses he received?
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Apr 19, 2024 15:14:00 GMT -5
Post by Wozzy on Apr 19, 2024 15:14:00 GMT -5
Are you taking into consideration the signing bonuses he received? Spotrac and OTC both track this stuff pretty accurately, he clearly took less money than his peers from 2014 on in New England.
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Apr 19, 2024 16:36:07 GMT -5
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Post by rkarp on Apr 19, 2024 16:36:07 GMT -5
Taking less but getting it all sooner was common for Yee’s clients.
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Apr 19, 2024 16:47:55 GMT -5
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 19, 2024 16:47:55 GMT -5
Taking less but getting it all sooner was common for Yee’s clients. The best QB in NFL history took less money overall. If you can’t see the significance of that nobody can help you.
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Apr 20, 2024 7:07:07 GMT -5
Post by rkarp on Apr 20, 2024 7:07:07 GMT -5
Taking less but getting it all sooner was common for Yee’s clients. The best QB in NFL history took less money overall. If you can’t see the significance of that nobody can help you. as usual you miss the point completely and misfire with your offensive defense. no surprise
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Apr 20, 2024 9:09:18 GMT -5
Post by Wozzy on Apr 20, 2024 9:09:18 GMT -5
as usual you miss the point completely and misfire with your offensive defense. no surprise As usual you say someone is wrong and you’re right but have facts or data to support your assertions.
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Apr 20, 2024 9:24:41 GMT -5
Post by rkarp on Apr 20, 2024 9:24:41 GMT -5
as usual you miss the point completely and misfire with your offensive defense. no surprise As usual you say someone is wrong and you’re right but have facts or data to support your assertions. I agreed with you dummy
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Apr 20, 2024 9:42:49 GMT -5
Post by Wozzy on Apr 20, 2024 9:42:49 GMT -5
“Taking less but getting it all sooner was common for Yee’s clients.” - Rkarp No you weren’t, you were saying Brady taking less was a byproduct of being a client of Don Yee. When JimmyG (also a Yee client) signed his new deal in San Francisco he became the highest paid player in the entire NFL.
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Apr 20, 2024 10:02:53 GMT -5
Post by rkarp on Apr 20, 2024 10:02:53 GMT -5
“Taking less but getting it all sooner was common for Yee’s clients.” - Rkarp No you weren’t, you were saying Brady taking less was a byproduct of being a client of Don Yee. When JimmyG (also a Yee client) signed his new deal in San Francisco he became the highest paid player in the entire NFL. JG signed that deal ahead of numerous other QB's that eclipsed his deal quickly JG also signed a deal that was heavily front loaded. so while JG had an APY of $27.5m, his projected cap hit in each of the final 3 seasons was under $27m, while the cap was rising every year. JG got $41m guaranteed at signing Cousins, Rodgers, Ryan, Brees all eclipsed JG's deal shortly thereafter as I said, Yee clients take a little less and get more of it upfront
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Apr 20, 2024 10:50:55 GMT -5
Post by Wozzy on Apr 20, 2024 10:50:55 GMT -5
JG signed that deal ahead of numerous other QB's that eclipsed his deal quickly JG also signed a deal that was heavily front loaded. so while JG had an APY of $27.5m, his projected cap hit in each of the final 3 seasons was under $27m, while the cap was rising every year. JG got $41m guaranteed at signing Cousins, Rodgers, Ryan, Brees all eclipsed JG's deal shortly thereafter as I said, Yee clients take a little less and get more of it upfront Every deal gets eclipsed by the next deal, it doesn’t change that Yee’s client became the highest paid player in the entire league while Tom was taking less. This ^ is just dancing. Tom intentionally took less.
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Apr 20, 2024 10:53:56 GMT -5
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Post by rkarp on Apr 20, 2024 10:53:56 GMT -5
JG signed that deal ahead of numerous other QB's that eclipsed his deal quickly JG also signed a deal that was heavily front loaded. so while JG had an APY of $27.5m, his projected cap hit in each of the final 3 seasons was under $27m, while the cap was rising every year. JG got $41m guaranteed at signing Cousins, Rodgers, Ryan, Brees all eclipsed JG's deal shortly thereafter as I said, Yee clients take a little less and get more of it upfront Every deal gets eclipsed by the next deal, it doesn’t change that Yee’s client became the highest paid player in the entire league while Tom was taking less. This ^ is just dancing. Tom intentionally took less. For more upfront. Same as Jimmy
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Apr 20, 2024 11:12:20 GMT -5
Post by Wozzy on Apr 20, 2024 11:12:20 GMT -5
For more upfront. Same as Jimmy Tom was the best QB in the NFL, he could have forced NE’s hand to pay him more or pushed his way out the door. It has nothing at all to do with taking more upfront. His total take home salary was substantially less than his peers. His roughly 15 million per was substantially less than the $27.5 million annually Garoppolo was earning in 2018. Taking more upfront is irrelevant to the overall point of taking far below market pay.
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Apr 20, 2024 11:35:56 GMT -5
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Post by TFB12 on Apr 20, 2024 11:35:56 GMT -5
For more upfront. Same as Jimmy Tom was the best QB in the NFL, he could have forced NE’s hand to pay him more or pushed his way out the door. It has nothing at all to do with taking more upfront. His total take home salary was substantially less than his peers. His roughly 15 million per was substantially less than the $27.5 million annually Garoppolo was earning in 2018. Taking more upfront is irrelevant to the overall point of taking far below market pay. didn’t you deny this for years? Brady gave Belichick the biggest advantage over all other GM’s by playing for less.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 20, 2024 13:20:43 GMT -5
didn’t you deny this for years? Brady gave Belichick the biggest advantage over all other GM’s by playing for less. No, I denied you saying Brady always took less when from 2005-2013 he was one of the highest paid QB’s in the NFL. He specifically took less from 2014 until he left New England.
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Apr 20, 2024 16:51:41 GMT -5
Post by rkarp on Apr 20, 2024 16:51:41 GMT -5
Tom played for the Pats for 20 years his cumulative salary those 20 years was $50.2m his cumulative sign bonus those 20 years was $112.2m his cumulative restructure and roster bonus those 20 years was $63m he got his money upfront. that seemingly was more important to Yee than the "highest paid" narrative where players wait for money that never comes once they are cut (the pillar of cap is crap)
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Post by TFB12 on Apr 20, 2024 20:52:46 GMT -5
didn’t you deny this for years? Brady gave Belichick the biggest advantage over all other GM’s by playing for less. No, I denied you saying Brady always took less when from 2005-2013 he was one of the highest paid QB’s in the NFL. He specifically took less from 2014 until he left New England. To project Brady's non-discounted career earnings, we kept his rookie deal and first extension the same. In 2002, Brady signed a four-year, $28 million contract. His next extension came in 2005. By this point, he had won three Super Bowls and was a 2-time Super Bowl MVP. It is safe to assume that by 2005, he could have started commanding top contracts.
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