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Tomlin
Jan 18, 2018 13:15:04 GMT -5
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Post by thejuice on Jan 18, 2018 13:15:04 GMT -5
He's an awful coach. Absolutely terrible. He's nothing but a glorified cheerleader. He won 2 titles with cowhers players. He should've been fired years ago. But please Pittsburgh stay stupid and keep him. As long as he's the coach, we'll never have to worry about them beating us. He won one SB, 2008 over AZ. Lost in 2010 to GBay. Thanks for the correction. I did know that. I misspoke. Meant to say he made 2 super bowls.
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Tomlin
Jan 18, 2018 13:15:49 GMT -5
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Post by thejuice on Jan 18, 2018 13:15:49 GMT -5
I do not think he is a good strategic thinker, nor judgment in the clutch. That said, team seems comfortable with him, they strut their stuff freely, and he does draft well over the years. Tomlin isn't the gm. He doesn't draft players.
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Post by seawolf on Jan 18, 2018 13:59:34 GMT -5
I do not think he is a good strategic thinker, nor judgment in the clutch. That said, team seems comfortable with him, they strut their stuff freely, and he does draft well over the years. Tomlin isn't the gm. He doesn't draft players. My last comment on him He isnt know for being a good game coach either And I dont see many great at it Again BB is on the top of the heap
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Tomlin
Jan 18, 2018 14:06:25 GMT -5
Post by rkarp on Jan 18, 2018 14:06:25 GMT -5
Tomlins strengths are motivation and discipline. For me, he is falling short on the discipline angle, with his team making costly mistakes on and off the field.
I would think he will have a divided locker room on his hands, as Haley was not brought back, in spite of being the OC of offense best in league, and the OC that saw the transformation of Rothlsberg from a human pinata to a HOF QB (yet Rothlsberg threw him under the bus)
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Tomlin
Jan 18, 2018 14:47:39 GMT -5
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Post by thejuice on Jan 18, 2018 14:47:39 GMT -5
Tomlins strengths are motivation and discipline. For me, he is falling short on the discipline angle, with his team making costly mistakes on and off the field. I would think he will have a divided locker room on his hands, as Haley was not brought back, in spite of being the OC of offense best in league, and the OC that saw the transformation of Rothlsberg from a human pinata to a HOF QB (yet Rothlsberg threw him under the bus) He's horrible at discipline. Hes a good motivator hence me always calling him a glorified cheerleader.
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Tomlin
Jan 18, 2018 19:42:46 GMT -5
Post by seawolf on Jan 18, 2018 19:42:46 GMT -5
Tomlins strengths are motivation and discipline. For me, he is falling short on the discipline angle, with his team making costly mistakes on and off the field. I would think he will have a divided locker room on his hands, as Haley was not brought back, in spite of being the OC of offense best in league, and the OC that saw the transformation of Rothlsberg from a human pinata to a HOF QB (yet Rothlsberg threw him under the bus) He's horrible at discipline. Hes a good motivator hence me always calling him a glorified cheerleader. You and Terry Bradshaw😁
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Tomlin
Jan 18, 2018 20:03:53 GMT -5
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Post by somar on Jan 18, 2018 20:03:53 GMT -5
I think he is a good HC, just not a particularly special one. He makes some very questionable decisions quite often and has clear problems when it comes to discipline. Despite that he seems to be liked by the players which is important. Trying to look at it as if I was a Steelers fan, I would say, while i wouldn't be against keeping him, I also think a change would be beneficial for them at this point. When you're one of the biggest franchises in the league and have the talent they have, expections are high, as well they should be, and Tomlin hasn't delivered results for a long time, he has the wins, but when you're already a top team, you want the titles to match. Sometimes, even when a HC is good, things just don't seem to work out and parting ways might be the best for everyone involved. The Steelers get a fresh face with new ideas, and Tomlin keeps his reputation intact and will probably find another HC job elsewhere easily. How can someone that makes very questionable decisions, quite often, be a good head coach? Simple answer. He can't not necessarily. As long as your good at everything else you can always delegate Some HC's opt to call de D or O instead of the respective coordinator, BB gives Patricia and Josh the full go as playcallers Part of the HC job is to know what you're good at and what you're not, then find the right staff to complement the areas you struggle Just as an example, In Do Your Job 2, BB clearly states he gives Ernie Mac some decision making capability when it comes to challenging plays.
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Tomlin
Jan 18, 2018 20:07:59 GMT -5
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Post by oklahomapatriot on Jan 18, 2018 20:07:59 GMT -5
A loser
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Post by mrmojo112058 on Jan 18, 2018 20:38:20 GMT -5
I hope Marrone asks Tomlin for advice on how to beat the Patriots.
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Tomlin
Jan 18, 2018 22:28:28 GMT -5
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Post by thejuice on Jan 18, 2018 22:28:28 GMT -5
He's horrible at discipline. Hes a good motivator hence me always calling him a glorified cheerleader. You and Terry Bradshaw😁 Takes a genius to know a genius
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Tomlin
Jan 18, 2018 22:29:51 GMT -5
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Post by thejuice on Jan 18, 2018 22:29:51 GMT -5
How can someone that makes very questionable decisions, quite often, be a good head coach? Simple answer. He can't not necessarily. As long as your good at everything else you can always delegate Some HC's opt to call de D or O instead of the respective coordinator, BB gives Patricia and Josh the full go as playcallers Part of the HC job is to know what you're good at and what you're not, then find the right staff to complement the areas you struggle Just as an example, In Do Your Job 2, BB clearly states he gives Ernie Mac some decision making capability when it comes to challenging plays. Agreed. But that doesn't apply here, as Tomlin is terrible at every aspect of coaching except for getting his players to like him and motivating them.
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Post by bostonts on Jan 19, 2018 1:50:58 GMT -5
Tomlin gets his guys ready to run through a wall for him. Problem is sometimes it's the wrong wall.
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Post by thejuice on Jan 19, 2018 15:11:24 GMT -5
Tomlin gets his guys ready to run through a wall for him. Problem is sometimes it's the wrong wall. Exactly. I think he makes a great coordinator but a terrible head coach
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Tomlin
Jan 19, 2018 18:19:24 GMT -5
Post by portfolio1 on Jan 19, 2018 18:19:24 GMT -5
Minority Steeler Owners' want him fired. do you think he should be? I think he is, overall, a good coach. But he is clearly flawed. And I am not so sure he cares about his flaws. It's as if he sees his flaws as medals of bravery or something. Should they fire him? Well, it depends on whether they have someone in mind who they would really want to give a shot. But just turning over a coach who has had the success he has with that team is not an intelligent approach. In the case of a Marvin Lewis it is the height of absurdity that he is still a head coach anywhere. If I were running the Steelers I would be actively, though quietly, searching and evaluating but under the radar so as to keep him until I found someone I wanted to try or until he actually got better.... AND along those lines I WOULD approach him in the off season and sit down to figure out how to get this team over the hump. And that would include roster, draft, FAs, current players, coaches under him, O and D game planning, in game decision making etc. all in the name of improving - the way we try to get every player to get better....
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Tomlin
Jan 19, 2018 18:21:35 GMT -5
Post by portfolio1 on Jan 19, 2018 18:21:35 GMT -5
Tomlins strengths are motivation and discipline. For me, he is falling short on the discipline angle, with his team making costly mistakes on and off the field. I would think he will have a divided locker room on his hands, as Haley was not brought back, in spite of being the OC of offense best in league, and the OC that saw the transformation of Rothlsberg from a human pinata to a HOF QB (yet Rothlsberg threw him under the bus) After they lost while scoring 42 points he and the front office must have sat down to assess and conclude they lost because the offense was not up to it and so they needed to dump the OC. I guess in Pitts that makes sense
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Tomlin
Jan 19, 2018 19:20:08 GMT -5
Post by nflpatsfan on Jan 19, 2018 19:20:08 GMT -5
hence me always calling him a glorified cheerleader. But, you can spell "CAT" without being spotted C and A, right
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Tomlin
Jan 19, 2018 19:56:30 GMT -5
Post by seawolf on Jan 19, 2018 19:56:30 GMT -5
BBs whole coaching dynamic is different He can coach O, D and STs He has 3 key mearements for players at each position
He coaches his coaches Everones responsibility is detailed What BB has looking over the team and helping with Situational decisions. Ernie Adams Who may be the toughest to replace
And he started young under his father Steve The icon of scouting teams and players A Savant teaching a savant
Tomlin and most coaches just start off a mile behind And probably never catch up
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