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Post by patmando on Feb 27, 2019 6:06:40 GMT -5
I suppose I'd have to read the non football political pages to read this shit... is this what I'm missing? Good god, who the hell thought it would be a good idea to start a politics chat here?! Hey Mods... get rid of the political pages, that way the rest of us who simply want to discuss football won't get removed with all the self indulgent windbags who love the smell of their own farts. Mostly the politics are fine, even if the threads sometimes get hot. I have no issues with insults, even nasty and personal ones. But calling for a specific person to die or to have her throat cut crosses a line for me. There's too much violence in that kind of statement and the fact that it is so specifically directed at a particular individual makes it feel almost like an actual death threat. Even so, I wouldn't have reported it (not even to the administrator) if it were just one time. But it was repeated, I reported three instances of it to the administrator over a period of about a month, and yet it still continued. At that point, I thought ProBoards should be informed. insults are not fine. The policy is about harassment. Harassment is not limited to death threats. Now I wouldn’t report anyone but I am not going to sit here and claim innocence in how I act on here. This is s TOXIC forum. Nearly every single FOOTBALL thread turns into a nasty name calling thread. There is a reason a lot of the non toxic posters rarely post here anymore. Be honest pretty much 90% of posters on here (including me) could be hit with the ban hammer for what we post. My point being I don’t blame the guy who reported it. I am not going to justify the behavior on this forum. I just posted it was stupid for kraft to justify his bad behavior. Same here.
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Post by prolate0spheroid on Feb 27, 2019 6:15:53 GMT -5
Mostly the politics are fine, even if the threads sometimes get hot. I have no issues with insults, even nasty and personal ones. But calling for a specific person to die or to have her throat cut crosses a line for me. There's too much violence in that kind of statement and the fact that it is so specifically directed at a particular individual makes it feel almost like an actual death threat. Even so, I wouldn't have reported it (not even to the administrator) if it were just one time. But it was repeated, I reported three instances of it to the administrator over a period of about a month, and yet it still continued. At that point, I thought ProBoards should be informed. insults are not fine. The policy is about harassment. Harassment is not limited to death threats. Now I wouldn’t report anyone but I am not going to sit here and claim innocence in how I act on here. This is s TOXIC forum. Nearly every single FOOTBALL thread turns into a nasty name calling thread. There is a reason a lot of the non toxic posters rarely post here anymore. Be honest pretty much 90% of posters on here (including me) could be hit with the ban hammer for what we post. My point being I don’t blame the guy who reported it. I am not going to justify the behavior on this forum. I just posted it was stupid for kraft to justify his bad behavior. Same here. In an ideal world, I'd agree, but all of us come here in part for the arguments and all of us sometimes (even often) say things that are unkind. I think trying to stop that would hurt the forum. As the person who reported the incident what I felt actually crossed a line was wishing for specific individuals to die and using somewhat violent language to express this wish.
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Post by rkarp on Feb 27, 2019 6:29:10 GMT -5
since the offensive threats were made in the political forum, curious as to why the message/warning from the admin/OP was not posted in that forum?
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Post by tswfan on Feb 27, 2019 6:35:15 GMT -5
I suppose I'd have to read the non football political pages to read this shit... is this what I'm missing? Good god, who the hell thought it would be a good idea to start a politics chat here?! Hey Mods... get rid of the political pages, that way the rest of us who simply want to discuss football won't get removed with all the self indulgent windbags who love the smell of their own farts. Mostly the politics are fine, even if the threads sometimes get hot. I have no issues with insults, even nasty and personal ones. But calling for a specific person to die or to have her throat cut crosses a line for me. There's too much violence in that kind of statement and the fact that it is so specifically directed at a particular individual makes it feel almost like an actual death threat. Even so, I wouldn't have reported it (not even to the administrator) if it were just one time. But it was repeated, I reported three instances of it to the administrator over a period of about a month, and yet it still continued. At that point, I thought ProBoards should be informed. Coming from UI aka COMRADE DEAD RED aka an avowed MARXIST/LENINIST/SOCIALIST who HAS STATED THAT HIS GOAL IS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE USA/CONSTITUTION on this BOARD MANY TIMES, I FIND THAT RICH.
You also threatened to CALL the FBI ...GO FOR IT
PS. PUTANO's daughter said she would cut DJT throat and he would not know it
I wish I WAS A BILLIONAIRE ..I did not know wishing is prohibited in this country.
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Post by prolate0spheroid on Feb 27, 2019 7:01:21 GMT -5
Mostly the politics are fine, even if the threads sometimes get hot. I have no issues with insults, even nasty and personal ones. But calling for a specific person to die or to have her throat cut crosses a line for me. There's too much violence in that kind of statement and the fact that it is so specifically directed at a particular individual makes it feel almost like an actual death threat. Even so, I wouldn't have reported it (not even to the administrator) if it were just one time. But it was repeated, I reported three instances of it to the administrator over a period of about a month, and yet it still continued. At that point, I thought ProBoards should be informed. Coming from UI aka COMRADE DEAD RED aka an avowed MARXIST/LENINIST/SOCIALIST who HAS STATED THAT HIS GOAL IS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE USA/CONSTITUTION on this BOARD MANY TIMES, I FIND THAT RICH.
You also threatened to CALL the FBI ...GO FOR IT
PS. PUTANO's daughter said she would cut DJT throat and he would not know it
I wish I WAS A BILLIONAIRE ..I did not know wishing is prohibited in this country.
Yes, and so everyone knows what exactly what was reported, it was the last instance of multiple repeated posts calling for both my death and for certain public officials' deaths: patriotsfans.freeforums.net/post/260773
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Post by texaspat on Feb 27, 2019 7:24:20 GMT -5
Only one comment was flagged? That’s amazing. I give as well as I get on here, but make no mistake this is one very toxic forum. You could literally flag every other comment. "...this is one very toxic forum...". Really??? If you find posting here to be a "toxic" experience, then why do you keep posting, and exposing yourself to such a calamity? Quite the contrary, this forum is an excellent place to discuss football and the Patriots. I find that the majority of posters here get along, and are knowledgeable. The conversations are usually both enjoyable and informative...to the point that I go here first to get my news on the Pats...and go to the excellent Red Sox forum to read up on, or discuss, the Sox. Just because there are disagreements on occasion doesn't make this place "toxic". Heck, Karpie and I often disagree, and at times these discussions get chippy. Nonetheless, the guy is a good poster. Even his at times erroneous/silly posts promote some good football discussion. I'll admit to busting chops on occasion on this forum. Sorry...it's nothing personal. I just can't help myself at times. It's something that I acquired in my youthful days in New England. It's one of the ways that I, and the guys who I used to hang out with, had fun. Too many snowflake types lurking out there, these days. Look at how one whiner can shake things up...and threaten to ruin this place, by unnecessarily causing discussions here to be "sterilized".
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Post by Examiner on Feb 27, 2019 7:27:10 GMT -5
What astounds me in this country is that its "ok" to publicly call for the assassination of President Trump and celebrate the death of various Conservative figures, but it's "intolerant" if you call for the killing of someone who leans left? All of it is sick IMO. Civility is DEAD in this world. I don't mind a little back and forth "you're an idiot" BS on a sports forum, but when people of supposed influence (movie stars, media figures) are openly enacting fauxe assassinations on the President because they disagree with his political views, or are calling for the death of Conservatives simply because we are in disagreement with them, then I think we need to take a step back. And if it's vice versa politically, its just as bad. One California college professor called for the killing of all police officers last week, and another columnist called for the castration of all white men. Get a grip people, your "tolerance" is really shining through. No matter which side you fall on, if you are calling for the death of people who disagree with you, you have issues.
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Post by harleyroadking on Feb 27, 2019 7:29:05 GMT -5
Only one comment was flagged? That’s amazing. I give as well as I get on here, but make no mistake this is one very toxic forum. You could literally flag every other comment. [ Please...this board is lame compared to what is was before it moved here.
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Post by Examiner on Feb 27, 2019 7:30:13 GMT -5
Only one comment was flagged? That’s amazing. I give as well as I get on here, but make no mistake this is one very toxic forum. You could literally flag every other comment. [ Please...this board is lame compared to what is was before it moved here. Yeah, I agree. The old BDC days with Rusty got pretty rough. But I didn't even have a problem with HIM as long as he kept it to insults and stayed off politics and religion. When he got on that soap box, I crossed swords with him a few times.
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Post by patmando on Feb 27, 2019 7:35:30 GMT -5
Only one comment was flagged? That’s amazing. I give as well as I get on here, but make no mistake this is one very toxic forum. You could literally flag every other comment. "...this is one very toxic forum...". Really??? If you find posting here to be a "toxic" experience, then why do you keep posting, and exposing yourself to such a calamity? Quite the contrary, this forum is an excellent place to discuss football and the Patriots. I find that the majority of posters here get along, and are knowledgeable. The conversations are usually both enjoyable and informative...to the point that I go here first to get my news on the Pats...and go to the excellent Red Sox forum to read up on, or discuss, the Sox. Just because there are disagreements on occasion doesn't make this place "toxic". Heck, Karpie and I often disagree, and at times these discussions get chippy. Nonetheless, the guy is a good poster. Even his at times erroneous/silly posts promote some good football discussion. I'll admit to busting chops on occasion on this forum. Sorry...it's nothing personal. I just can't help myself at times. It's something that I acquired in my youthful days in New England. It's one of the ways that I, and the guys who I used to hang out with, had fun. Too many snowflake types lurking out there, these days. Look at how one whiner can shake things up...and threaten to ruin this place, by unnecessarily causing discussions here to be "sterilized". i am not going to get into a back and forth on the topic. There is a huge difference between busting chops and insulting people. Why am I still here? Because I just said I don’t mind it. What makes us different is I understand what the behavior is. I own it. I don’t blame other people and call them snowflakes. It’s amazing to me that you think the guy that reported a post wishing his death is the one “threatening to ruin this place” rather then the poster who wished his death. Again maybe you should go read the pro boards code of conduct. Like it or not you do not get to set the rules here.
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Post by harleyroadking on Feb 27, 2019 7:35:51 GMT -5
[ Please...this board is lame compared to what is was before it moved here. Yeah, I agree. The old BDC days with Rusty got pretty rough. But I didn't even have a problem with HIM as long as he kept it to insults and stayed off politics and religion. When he got on that soap box, I crossed swords with him a few times. I miss sparring with Leon Togah underdog jints and the charger fan forget his handle. What fun is it if all agree and sing kumbyha
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Post by Shelly on Feb 27, 2019 7:48:45 GMT -5
I would worry more about who snitched to proboards than what was said. Agreed. Imo, reporting any post is a rather pathetic thing to do. But if you choose to do so, report it to our Admin only not proboards I agree about reporting it to the Admin. Let's keep everything in house. However, I don't agree about reporting it being a pathetic thing to do. We can all argue and take strong stances. However, anonymity does not give one license to do anything they damn well please. There are limits that are defined in the rules of the forum -- which appears as the sticky thread at the top if the listing -- and by participating here we agree to abide by those rules. When someone egregiously violates those rules he should be reported. We can't just assume that the Admin reads every single post. It is the responsibility of the civilized members here to bring major violations to the attention of Admin. So, to the person who reported the violation to ProBoards, please refrain from doing that in the future and just report it to Admin. To the rest of us, let's be civilized and observe the rules. This will be an even better place for us then.
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Post by tswfan on Feb 27, 2019 7:53:44 GMT -5
Coming from UI aka COMRADE DEAD RED aka an avowed MARXIST/LENINIST/SOCIALIST who HAS STATED THAT HIS GOAL IS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE USA/CONSTITUTION on this BOARD MANY TIMES, I FIND THAT RICH.
You also threatened to CALL the FBI ...GO FOR IT
PS. PUTANO's daughter said she would cut DJT throat and he would not know it
I wish I WAS A BILLIONAIRE ..I did not know wishing is prohibited in this country.
Yes, and so everyone knows what exactly what was reported, it was the last instance of multiple repeated posts calling for both my death and for certain public officials' deaths: patriotsfans.freeforums.net/post/260773 UI ...YOU have CALLED for the DEMISE of the USA/CONSTITUTION MANY TIMES ON THIS BOARD .So call the FBI. I guess you will place the call from Canada .
Oh, I have not "called" for anyone's death. I CAN WISH FOR THE DEMISE of ANYONE.
You are a LOSER......
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Post by Shelly on Feb 27, 2019 7:57:42 GMT -5
Insults are fine. Repeated posts calling for the death of public officials and particular individuals who post here seem worth reporting to the administrator—and if the posts continue to be made even after being reported to the administrator several times—to ProBoards. Here are a few examples: we end it with PUTANO's THROAT CUT DEAD RED...hopefully DEAD soon COMRADE DEAD RED aka UI... nothing you have done in this world will become you as much as YOUR LEAVING IT. Hopefully that will be soon COMRADE DEAD RED ..We know you have had medical issues along with Ruth BADDER. Soon Nature will take its course and we will get a TWOFER I agree those are horrible and should be reported. Going to Proboards, however, could lead to the dissolution of this forum. We should keep it in house. As from as that particular troll (I know who you are talking about) is concerned, do what I do -- put him on ignore. I never see troll's garbage and am better off for it. My opinion? He should be permanently banned from this board. He provides absolutely nothing of value and every single one of his posts is filled with insults (and veiled threats) and nothing else. If ever a poster deserved to be banned for repeatedly (25 times a day at least) violating the rules, he is the prime example. Why Admin has not done so long, long ago is a mystery to me. Maybe it is because by putting him on ignore I don't see it any longer and so don't report him?
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Post by tswfan on Feb 27, 2019 8:04:18 GMT -5
Insults are fine. Repeated posts calling for the death of public officials and particular individuals who post here seem worth reporting to the administrator—and if the posts continue to be made even after being reported to the administrator several times—to ProBoards. Here are a few examples: we end it with PUTANO's THROAT CUT DEAD RED...hopefully DEAD soon COMRADE DEAD RED aka UI... nothing you have done in this world will become you as much as YOUR LEAVING IT. Hopefully that will be soon COMRADE DEAD RED ..We know you have had medical issues along with Ruth BADDER. Soon Nature will take its course and we will get a TWOFER I agree those are horrible and should be reported. Going to Proboards, however, could lead to the dissolution of this forum. We should keep it in house. As from as that particular troll (I know who you are talking about) is concerned, do what I do -- put him on ignore. I never see troll's garbage and am better off for it. My opinion? He should be permanently banned from this board. He provides absolutely nothing of value and every single one of his posts is filled with insults (and veiled threats) and nothing else. If ever a poster deserved to be banned for repeatedly (25 times a day at least) violating the rules, he is the prime example. Why Admin has not done so long, long ago is a mystery to me. Maybe it is because by putting him on ignore I don't see it any longer and so don't report him? You live up to the RAT moniker given to you by others on this board
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Post by usmc on Feb 27, 2019 8:04:20 GMT -5
Coming from UI aka COMRADE DEAD RED aka an avowed MARXIST/LENINIST/SOCIALIST who HAS STATED THAT HIS GOAL IS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE USA/CONSTITUTION on this BOARD MANY TIMES, I FIND THAT RICH.
You also threatened to CALL the FBI ...GO FOR IT
PS. PUTANO's daughter said she would cut DJT throat and he would not know it
I wish I WAS A BILLIONAIRE ..I did not know wishing is prohibited in this country.
Yes, and so everyone knows what exactly what was reported, it was the last instance of multiple repeated posts calling for both my death and for certain public officials' deaths: patriotsfans.freeforums.net/post/260773My takeaway from this: There are some pretty sick individuals who condone violence against you and anyone who would dissent. And, another group who think it is fine and funny. And, to a degree, you have thought it is amusing, up till now. Since the administration of this board has proven ineffective, you did the right thing.
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Post by rkarp on Feb 27, 2019 8:23:37 GMT -5
My take away from this: this forum is "Patriots Fans". why is there a need for a political forum for 4-6 posters argue all day? Surely there are political forums for this type of conversation.
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Post by quagmire3 on Feb 27, 2019 8:25:16 GMT -5
As for the bizarre comments that were allegedly in the politics or off topic section: Don't folks have more important things to do then fight a non-winning political battle, non stop, in an anonymous online forum? Your not changing anyone's mind so why bother? If you are that passionate about your political beliefs get off line and go donate some time to your local political party. Sheesh.
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Post by ATJ on Feb 27, 2019 8:49:00 GMT -5
A thought on whether to have or not have a political forum: if a political forum is not active on this board then I would assert that we will see political discussions creep into the football forum. I, for one, would prefer that political commentary be kept to a minimum in the football discussions.
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Post by NEGAME on Feb 27, 2019 8:49:21 GMT -5
Everyone should just IGNORE him, I do. I don't read anything he says. I don t like the derogatory posts made to him and Shelly and that has gotten out of control imo. As far as the off topic that has become mostly political, I like it and post on it at times. Again if you don t like it don't go there. Next it could be remove the fantasy because someone does't like it. Leave the forum the way it is. As far as the report to the Proboards, pretty chicken shit in my opinion.He could easily have started a thread bringing it to everyone's attention and it could have been taken care of in house. I hate tattletales.
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Post by irishmob7 on Feb 27, 2019 8:54:47 GMT -5
Maybe prolate the snowflake got offended when he was bitchslapped repeatedly in the Kraft thread? Still waiting on that fraud to let us know if he supports child labor and if he thinks kids drunk in public are criminals.
What a fraud.
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Post by danpat on Feb 27, 2019 8:56:01 GMT -5
There needs to be a line. Wishing someone dead is crossing that line.
If you want to insult someone, just post a picture of Colin Kapernick kneeling. That should do the trick.
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Post by NEGAME on Feb 27, 2019 8:57:55 GMT -5
I agree those are horrible and should be reported. Going to Proboards, however, could lead to the dissolution of this forum. We should keep it in house. As from as that particular troll (I know who you are talking about) is concerned, do what I do -- put him on ignore. I never see troll's garbage and am better off for it. My opinion? He should be permanently banned from this board. He provides absolutely nothing of value and every single one of his posts is filled with insults (and veiled threats) and nothing else. If ever a poster deserved to be banned for repeatedly (25 times a day at least) violating the rules, he is the prime example. Why Admin has not done so long, long ago is a mystery to me. Maybe it is because by putting him on ignore I don't see it any longer and so don't report him? You live up to the RAT moniker given to you by others on this board Twsfan stop, just stop with this kind of post. All smiley faces don t make it right or funny. Please stop with. the name calling. You see their names and you post something like the above. You don 't contribute, you just insult. Again ,please stop
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Post by irishmob7 on Feb 27, 2019 8:59:17 GMT -5
After reading the second page, I see it was prolate the snowflake who went all the way up to proboards to tattle. You bring up politics on a daily basis (including your footer) on a football message board then tattle when you think somebody crosses the line. You are an absolute weasel on top of being a massive hypocrite.
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Post by patmando on Feb 27, 2019 9:05:22 GMT -5
After reading the second page, I see it was prolate the snowflake who went all the way up to proboards to tattle. You bring up politics on a daily basis (including your footer) on a football message board then tattle when you think somebody crosses the line. You are an absolute weasel on top of being a massive hypocrite. gee this isn’t harassment or in violation of the code of conduct. Yup this only happens in the political threads 🤦🏻♀️ I don’t report people but I sure wouldn’t consider someone that did the problem.
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