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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 14, 2019 22:44:46 GMT -5
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getdrunkstupit
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Post by getdrunkstupit on Mar 15, 2019 3:56:33 GMT -5
Joe Montana-known cheater greasing jerseys, stickum hands, bribery.
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Post by mthurl on Mar 15, 2019 4:12:48 GMT -5
He's brushing it off as he only used him as a consultant for his kids to assist in the college process. A consultant?? Since when is this a thing? Kids go to high school, they work, they learn. Then they get info from the guidence department and go on trips to the school with the parents...you know, normal human being stuff. You don't hire this creep and pretend you know nothing about what was going on. I can't stand Montana and his backhanded compliments of Brady and zero support during deflategate.
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Post by fletcherbrook on Mar 15, 2019 4:16:37 GMT -5
joe montana was a very good QB-he could scramble with the best of them.
still can apparently.
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Post by quagmire3 on Mar 15, 2019 7:42:57 GMT -5
Jealous Joe trying to get out front of the investigation.
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Post by pauldeba on Mar 15, 2019 7:49:40 GMT -5
I don't care about Joe Montana, but the hysterical schadenfreude hyena behavior in society today is very chilling. Only Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is without sin, the rest of us are mortals.
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Post by getdrunkstupit on Mar 15, 2019 8:04:17 GMT -5
drop the alex and you have: wait for it : andria ocasio cortez triple 6s. she's the devil
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Post by portfolio1 on Mar 15, 2019 8:17:25 GMT -5
I don't care about Joe Montana, but the hysterical schadenfreude hyena behavior in society today is very chilling. Only Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is without sin, the rest of us are mortals. I was about to give you a thumbs up and you went political.... (I do too sometimes so I am not scolding). AOC is not my cup of tea but just because you are right about society today (and that includes the right) why single out a person who is calling for more meritocracy not less? You could have pointed to Trump Sr and Jr as they were helped into colleges... I am not wanting to single them out... I am contrasting that your choice of trying to go political ended up being grossly misguided... It is a good point you make.... don't cheapen it...
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Post by Examiner on Mar 15, 2019 8:34:47 GMT -5
I don't care about Joe Montana, but the hysterical schadenfreude hyena behavior in society today is very chilling. Only Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is without sin, the rest of us are mortals. I was about to give you a thumbs up and you went political.... (I do too sometimes so I am not scolding). AOC is not my cup of tea but just because you are right about society today (and that includes the right) why single out a person who is calling for more meritocracy not less? You could have pointed to Trump Sr and Jr as they were helped into colleges... I am not wanting to single them out... I am contrasting that your choice of trying to go political ended up being grossly misguided... It is a good point you make.... don't cheapen it... Uh, yeah, AOC is a raving lunatic that has absolutely no clue whatsoever. She's so far to the left liberal Democrats hate her. She's insane.
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Post by thehub on Mar 15, 2019 8:53:37 GMT -5
I was about to give you a thumbs up and you went political.... (I do too sometimes so I am not scolding). AOC is not my cup of tea but just because you are right about society today (and that includes the right) why single out a person who is calling for more meritocracy not less? You could have pointed to Trump Sr and Jr as they were helped into colleges... I am not wanting to single them out... I am contrasting that your choice of trying to go political ended up being grossly misguided... It is a good point you make.... don't cheapen it... Uh, yeah, AOC is a raving lunatic that has absolutely no clue whatsoever. She's so far to the left liberal Democrats hate her. She's insane. It’s so crazy is juuusssttt might work. I don’t believe that at all is is bay crazy. But the above mentioned movie line fir here.
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Post by portfolio1 on Mar 15, 2019 8:54:10 GMT -5
I was about to give you a thumbs up and you went political.... (I do too sometimes so I am not scolding). AOC is not my cup of tea but just because you are right about society today (and that includes the right) why single out a person who is calling for more meritocracy not less? You could have pointed to Trump Sr and Jr as they were helped into colleges... I am not wanting to single them out... I am contrasting that your choice of trying to go political ended up being grossly misguided... It is a good point you make.... don't cheapen it... Uh, yeah, AOC is a raving lunatic that has absolutely no clue whatsoever. She's so far to the left liberal Democrats hate her. She's insane. LOL, so what? Bringing her name up in the context it was brought up was ridiculous.
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Post by lioneljoe on Mar 15, 2019 8:56:47 GMT -5
So he wants us to believe that while everyone this “consultant “ was using the side door of bribery and fraud to get their kids in college that he, Joe Montana, took the harder right and didn’t cheat. Yeah right...
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Post by kcpatsfan on Mar 15, 2019 9:00:17 GMT -5
Uh, yeah, AOC is a raving lunatic that has absolutely no clue whatsoever. She's so far to the left liberal Democrats hate her. She's insane. AOC is not a raving lunatic (just paid to be one). She's the front for the fascists/commie cabal that got her elected (like they did Obama. His rise always reminds me of the rise of the POTUS character, with all his well-placed enablers, in the 3rd of the Omen movies - Final Judgement). Yes, Satan does walk among us.
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Post by pauldeba on Mar 15, 2019 9:35:55 GMT -5
I don't care about Joe Montana, but the hysterical schadenfreude hyena behavior in society today is very chilling. Only Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is without sin, the rest of us are mortals. I was about to give you a thumbs up and you went political.... (I do too sometimes so I am not scolding). AOC is not my cup of tea but just because you are right about society today (and that includes the right) why single out a person who is calling for more meritocracy not less? You could have pointed to Trump Sr and Jr as they were helped into colleges... I am not wanting to single them out... I am contrasting that your choice of trying to go political ended up being grossly misguided... It is a good point you make.... don't cheapen it... She is actively frustrating Trumps attempt to end the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela because admitting the left wing tyrant is responsible for the suffering would harm her political message. She is pure evil.
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Post by pauldeba on Mar 15, 2019 9:39:06 GMT -5
Uh, yeah, AOC is a raving lunatic that has absolutely no clue whatsoever. She's so far to the left liberal Democrats hate her. She's insane. LOL, so what? Bringing her name up in the context it was brought up was ridiculous. The context was the horrible impact of social media to society. She is one of the worst results of this impact.
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Post by fisher on Mar 15, 2019 10:02:17 GMT -5
Does anyone really care about admission scandals?? The powers to be will bang 4 or 5 schools... Prosecute those that can pay the fines and move on... Leaving the rest of the institutions of lower learning to continue building up the endowment portfolios and indoctrinating the small minds that are attending ..
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Post by muzwell on Mar 15, 2019 10:10:13 GMT -5
I can't get worked up about this "scandal." Rich people pay to get their kids an advantage, film at 11. Yawn.
This one and college basketball coaches getting prosecuted for giving kids money. Who cares? How's that even a crime?
I put all of this crap in the same boat as investigating Asian massage joints. Doesn't law enforcement in this country have actual criminal activity to investigate, they gotta spend time on this nonsense? Frankly, they're the ones who should be investigated for stealing taxpayer money.
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Post by portfolio1 on Mar 15, 2019 11:26:48 GMT -5
I was about to give you a thumbs up and you went political.... (I do too sometimes so I am not scolding). AOC is not my cup of tea but just because you are right about society today (and that includes the right) why single out a person who is calling for more meritocracy not less? You could have pointed to Trump Sr and Jr as they were helped into colleges... I am not wanting to single them out... I am contrasting that your choice of trying to go political ended up being grossly misguided... It is a good point you make.... don't cheapen it... She is actively frustrating Trumps attempt to end the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela because admitting the left wing tyrant is responsible for the suffering would harm her political message. She is pure evil. 1. No one is pure evil 2. She is a piss poor example of the issue raised. You know, the one you were responding to - the topic of the thread. It's like having a topic about how some auto companies have committed fraud regarding emissions and so you site her as if she is at all applicable. ONCE AGAIN.... no point of about disagree or agreeing about her politics (and just for your gratification I am no fan of hers but I do believe the general issues she focuses on need unemotional reflection), just stop being disingenuous by dragging completely unrelated people/things into a topic. We all already know how you feel about her and the thread was not about her. And frankly like her or not she is FOR meritocracy which is the issue being attacked via the fraud cases. If anything she agrees with you on this topic more than Trump and Trump's family who use money to buy or influence their way into universities (whatever their particular methods were).
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Post by portfolio1 on Mar 15, 2019 11:33:49 GMT -5
LOL, so what? Bringing her name up in the context it was brought up was ridiculous. The context was the horrible impact of social media to society. She is one of the worst results of this impact. I did not think the thread was about social media but about the fraud being used by many wealthy people on behalf of their privileged offspring. I WILL CERTAINLY agree with you that there is a horrible impact via social media. I agree. Trump (once again, independent of whether politically one agrees with him or not) is front and center there... But let's just look HERE.... you are posting - a social media sort of thing to do... and you post things like "she is pure evil" and many post extreme statements on this social media site lumping everyone who is left of the far right as socialists, communists, evil... Even to the point of talking about getting out guns.... The extreme and violent and demeaning and wedge inspiring posts are rampant. And I agree they are, here and elsewhere, doing harm to America. Arguing one's case, one's position, one's reasoning is great. The demeaning and the threats are not. I agree.
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Post by pauldeba on Mar 15, 2019 11:43:56 GMT -5
The context was the horrible impact of social media to society. She is one of the worst results of this impact. I did not think the thread was about social media but about the fraud being used by many wealthy people on behalf of their privileged offspring. I WILL CERTAINLY agree with you that there is a horrible impact via social media. I agree. Trump (once again, independent of whether politically one agrees with him or not) is front and center there... But let's just look HERE.... you are posting - a social media sort of thing to do... and you post things like "she is pure evil" and many post extreme statements on this social media site lumping everyone who is left of the far right as socialists, communists, evil... Even to the point of talking about getting out guns.... The extreme and violent and demeaning and wedge inspiring posts are rampant. And I agree they are, here and elsewhere, doing harm to America. Arguing one's case, one's position, one's reasoning is great. The demeaning and the threats are not. I agree. The Fraud is a minor issue that will result in limited jail time for most. The hysterical reaction by many in our social media world is the real story
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Post by portfolio1 on Mar 15, 2019 11:44:15 GMT -5
I can't get worked up about this "scandal." Rich people pay to get their kids an advantage, film at 11. Yawn. This one and college basketball coaches getting prosecuted for giving kids money. Who cares? How's that even a crime? I put all of this crap in the same boat as investigating Asian massage joints. Doesn't law enforcement in this country have actual criminal activity to investigate, they gotta spend time on this nonsense? Frankly, they're the ones who should be investigated for stealing taxpayer money. If we want a meritocracy and so the ability for your efforts to decide how far you go then we need to address these sorts of things. It is hard to get worked up about it because it is in fact the character of our country now. .Not just the rich but certainly so. We cannot name an industry (or walk of life if you will) - even education, health care, politics, insurance, financial, energy, legal, religion, etc, etc, where this sort of trait is not prevalent - even predominant. So we clearly need to start to address it BECAUSE it is so much everywhere you look. If we do not want things LIKE preferential treatment of any group than this is one area that needs to be very much included. If you do not like affirmative action for example then this is not to be overlooked. If you are for affirmative action then this is undermining the very principle you are trying to foster. In other words we ALL have great reasons to AGREE on this issue even while you are right and it is eminently understandable to feel what you have expressed.
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Post by lowfbiq on Mar 15, 2019 11:51:22 GMT -5
speaking of Montana
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Post by portfolio1 on Mar 15, 2019 11:53:25 GMT -5
I did not think the thread was about social media but about the fraud being used by many wealthy people on behalf of their privileged offspring. I WILL CERTAINLY agree with you that there is a horrible impact via social media. I agree. Trump (once again, independent of whether politically one agrees with him or not) is front and center there... But let's just look HERE.... you are posting - a social media sort of thing to do... and you post things like "she is pure evil" and many post extreme statements on this social media site lumping everyone who is left of the far right as socialists, communists, evil... Even to the point of talking about getting out guns.... The extreme and violent and demeaning and wedge inspiring posts are rampant. And I agree they are, here and elsewhere, doing harm to America. Arguing one's case, one's position, one's reasoning is great. The demeaning and the threats are not. I agree. The Fraud is a minor issue that will result in limited jail time for most. The hysterical reaction by many in our social media world is the real story We agree that the limited jail time will not change how prevalent this trait is throughout our country. We agree that the hysterical reaction in social media is A real story and one worth addressing I do not agree that it is the "real" story. I think IN THIS CASE the crime is actually truly important because it fosters the EVIL of cheating, lying, stealing, committing fraud, doing anything even illegal or immoral. That trait is one we have to address and remove from the world of what is acceptable. We need to enforce the IDEA of being ethical if we want to live in an ethical world. It cannot be just one class (rich or poor) who are singled out or people of one political ideology (right or left) who are singled out. We need to ... well ... one way to put it is "what would BB do" regarding his roster and team? He sets standards regarding what is and is not acceptable and those standards apply to everyone. We need to embrace OUR OWN WORDS and walk the walk: meritocracy, rule of law, no preferential treatment. I suspect we agree on the ideas. We all need to put into practice the integrity that imposes OUR standards on everyone including those we are "for" as well as "against".
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Post by muzwell on Mar 15, 2019 12:28:32 GMT -5
I can't get worked up about this "scandal." Rich people pay to get their kids an advantage, film at 11. Yawn. This one and college basketball coaches getting prosecuted for giving kids money. Who cares? How's that even a crime? I put all of this crap in the same boat as investigating Asian massage joints. Doesn't law enforcement in this country have actual criminal activity to investigate, they gotta spend time on this nonsense? Frankly, they're the ones who should be investigated for stealing taxpayer money. If we want a meritocracy and so the ability for your efforts to decide how far you go then we need to address these sorts of things. It is hard to get worked up about it because it is in fact the character of our country now. .Not just the rich but certainly so. We cannot name an industry (or walk of life if you will) - even education, health care, politics, insurance, financial, energy, legal, religion, etc, etc, where this sort of trait is not prevalent - even predominant. So we clearly need to start to address it BECAUSE it is so much everywhere you look. If we do not want things LIKE preferential treatment of any group than this is one area that needs to be very much included. If you do not like affirmative action for example then this is not to be overlooked. If you are for affirmative action then this is undermining the very principle you are trying to foster. In other words we ALL have great reasons to AGREE on this issue even while you are right and it is eminently understandable to feel what you have expressed. Nothing really could be less concerning to me than rich folks paying to get their kids into some college. Sorry. I just don't care. Nobody deserves to get defrauded more than our precious universities. Havens of scam and corruption. What I don't understand is why they didn't just donate the money to the alumni fund? It would have the same result. Rich folks have certain advantages. I'm not the least bit bothered. I care even less about basketball players getting paid under the table. Who's the victim there? The IRS? Then there's the great massage caper...real brilliant detective work there.
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Post by portfolio1 on Mar 15, 2019 12:48:41 GMT -5
If we want a meritocracy and so the ability for your efforts to decide how far you go then we need to address these sorts of things. It is hard to get worked up about it because it is in fact the character of our country now. .Not just the rich but certainly so. We cannot name an industry (or walk of life if you will) - even education, health care, politics, insurance, financial, energy, legal, religion, etc, etc, where this sort of trait is not prevalent - even predominant. So we clearly need to start to address it BECAUSE it is so much everywhere you look. If we do not want things LIKE preferential treatment of any group than this is one area that needs to be very much included. If you do not like affirmative action for example then this is not to be overlooked. If you are for affirmative action then this is undermining the very principle you are trying to foster. In other words we ALL have great reasons to AGREE on this issue even while you are right and it is eminently understandable to feel what you have expressed. Nothing really could be less concerning to me than rich folks paying to get their kids into some college. Sorry. I just don't care. Nobody deserves to get defrauded more than our precious universities. Havens of scam and corruption. What I don't understand is why they didn't just donate the money to the alumni fund? It would have the same result. Rich folks have certain advantages. I'm not the least bit bothered. I care even less about basketball players getting paid under the table. Who's the victim there? The IRS? Then there's the great massage caper...real brilliant detective work there. I am not advocating for road rage over this. But let me try it this way and see if it registers at all - I am not expecting a sudden heartfelt response to this story: if we pick and choose which fraud "counts", which preferential treatment "counts", which corruption "counts", which criminals are worth counting as criminals, then we are saying our principles do not matter, that rule of law doesn't matter and that meritocracy does not matter. I GET that this particular case does not inspire everyone in the same way or extent. But to sweep it under the rug (and perhaps you are not really wishing to do that as much as just yawning at the repetitiveness of the crime) is to let go of our values and let us all fall further into "anything goes".
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