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Post by bubba on Apr 30, 2016 8:40:37 GMT -5
IMO, another wasted pick by BB. He does not really have a good history of drafting dbs.
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Post by patseng on Apr 30, 2016 8:46:05 GMT -5
I'll give Jones time he looks like a good nickel type. I prefer an outside guy that early in the draft and not a nickel guy but he was a good player at Ala so lets see what he can do. But if I hear he's a PR and that's why he was picked.... You don't pick a PR in the 2nd. It's a nice bonus but that shouldn't even be on the radar when discussion why he was picked on the 2nd
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Post by tcal2 on Apr 30, 2016 8:49:22 GMT -5
Ah....the Nickle, as useless as a penny but bigger, heavier and more annoying.
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Post by thehub on Apr 30, 2016 9:14:37 GMT -5
Not a fan of this pick. Seems like a reach for a slot corner.
QB in the 3rd that needs lots of help. Very odd.
Could have used more "trench" type players in hopes you found a starter.
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Post by quagmire3 on Apr 30, 2016 9:31:28 GMT -5
Cyrus Jones was far and away the best PR in this years draft. Lets not forget that part of his game. And, no offense Bubba, but I will take BB's knowledge of the player over yours, mine, or any other poster here.
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Post by carawaydj on Apr 30, 2016 9:36:40 GMT -5
F'n Lombardi's advice strikes again!  |
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Post by quagmire3 on Apr 30, 2016 9:42:14 GMT -5
Ah....the Nickle, as useless as a penny but bigger, heavier and more annoying. Cyrus Jones is no Arrington, but I think he will be ok! |
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Post by TFB12 on Apr 30, 2016 9:42:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not digging this draft. I don't love the Jones pick as I would like to see a bigger CB but I don't hate it either. Jones is good, he is aggressive and he tackles well. I think it's a safe pick, I think he has some good up side.
I don't know anything about Thuney but I hear and read that he is smart and can play multiple positions. I hope this guy works out.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 30, 2016 10:29:35 GMT -5
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Post by prolate0spheroid on Apr 30, 2016 10:53:48 GMT -5
Once you get to the lower part of the second round, you're never looking at sure bets. I tend to think Jones is a pretty good gamble, though I think it's impossible to know . . . even if you're a professional scout.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 30, 2016 11:10:42 GMT -5
Jones is 197 pounds, how is that underweight for a CB? He's 5-10 197, and people are acting like he's 5-8 175.
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Post by salcon on Apr 30, 2016 16:38:30 GMT -5
The Cyrus Jones pick could be final straw for Danny Amendola. If they have a reliable and dangerous punt returner that makes DA even more expendable.
On the other hand, I'll be surprised if BB let let's a rookie handle the all important role of returning punts.
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Post by kjfitone on Apr 30, 2016 16:52:21 GMT -5
I watch every Alabama game and have for years. Loved the hightower pick a few years ago. Jones is a solid corner IMO , tough, fast, and made some big plays in key moments. He's an excellent punt returner too. This is far from a Tavon Wilson or Ras Dowling picks, he will play.
On a side note the receiver they picked from GA is good. I remember him from when we played GA .
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Post by portfolio1 on Apr 30, 2016 17:41:55 GMT -5
Jones looks like he has quick feet to both react to WRs making a move and to make his own moves with the football (interceptions and PRs). He showed explosive return ability (interceptions and PR) for a college player. Will it translate? He does have good clock speed and quickness so I would think it is a fair gamble. ANd yes he comes from a defensive system that has translated to the pros - Hightower is only one good example.
I think it is a little foolish to think this a bad pick based on size or based on your own opinion on whether BB drafts any particular position well. If that were the criteria you would limit the players picked to just certain positions to the detriment of the team and limit to just "big" players. That would mean, for example, no Malcolm Butler and no SB ring last year. That seems like a foolish set of standards then doesn't it?
And PS - 5-10 is not 5-8 and 197 is not 180.
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Post by seawolf on Apr 30, 2016 18:33:27 GMT -5
STs are critical
We lost games last year on them -shockingly
CBs are then not tasll Revis wasnt
This means
je doesnt have to PR
Da too
He is an elite PRer
He can play in the slot , which is ever more important
With pick 60 I am okay good with him
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Post by morerings on Apr 30, 2016 18:42:47 GMT -5
Jones looks like he has quick feet to both react to WRs making a move and to make his own moves with the football (interceptions and PRs). He showed explosive return ability (interceptions and PR) for a college player. Will it translate? He does have good clock speed and quickness so I would think it is a fair gamble. ANd yes he comes from a defensive system that has translated to the pros - Hightower is only one good example. I think it is a little foolish to think this a bad pick based on size or based on your own opinion on whether BB drafts any particular position well. If that were the criteria you would limit the players picked to just certain positions to the detriment of the team and limit to just "big" players. That would mean, for example, no Malcolm Butler and no SB ring last year. That seems like a foolish set of standards then doesn't it? And PS - 5-10 is not 5-8 and 197 is not 180. What are Butlers stats? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 19:58:05 GMT -5
I'll give Jones time he looks like a good nickel type. I prefer an outside guy that early in the draft and not a nickel guy but he was a good player at Ala so lets see what he can do. But if I hear he's a PR and that's why he was picked.... You don't pick a PR in the 2nd. It's a nice bonus but that shouldn't even be on the radar when discussion why he was picked on the 2nd I'd like to be proven wrong, but based on these two youtube videos, I'd say it was a bad pick.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTCLkT3Nk5k#t=139.170748 www.youtube.com/watch?v=vERc5qrWeM8
On the second video, he had a PR for TD and one INT. Otherwise he was giving up long receptions all day.
Also, I'd rather have a bigger nickel, given how TEs are used now and how big WRs are now. The idea of the small nickel I think has past.
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Post by croc on Apr 30, 2016 21:55:40 GMT -5
This was a very solid pick as where Thuney and Malcolm Mitchell.
I'm not crazy about Bissett, and they took guys with upside in later rounds,
UDFAs: Steven Scheu TE Vanderbilt
DJ Foster RB/WR Arizona State
V’Angelo Bentley CB Illinois
Cre’Von LeBlanc CB Florida Atlantic
CJ Johnson LB Mississippi State
Jonathan Jones CB Auburn
Jonathan Jones was projected to go in the 4th or 5th round.
It's about building a roster not taking sexy names people know.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 22:19:48 GMT -5
I'm liking the OL pick but the rest looks pretty dismal.
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