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Post by csylvia79 on Jan 30, 2021 22:48:37 GMT -5
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Post by johngrant on Jan 30, 2021 22:59:13 GMT -5
I would think that Detroit will still draft a QB with its first pick. My guess is they just took on Goff for 2 firsts.
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Post by digger0862 on Feb 2, 2021 19:31:52 GMT -5
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Post by Wozzy on Feb 2, 2021 19:40:05 GMT -5
According to Curran BB is an axe murderer who hates puppies.
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Post by joeyct on Feb 2, 2021 21:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by thejuice on Feb 2, 2021 22:11:45 GMT -5
carr is signed to a very reasonable 2 more years, clearly he is the better qb... not miles and miles better, but better and younger. to me, the deciding factor is... what are we trading draft picks/players wise to get carr..... and then do we then use a rd 1 or 2 pick on the next guy (id assume wed probably roll with carr for the next 2 years minimum, so going qb in rd 1 or 2 this year might not happen) at qb this draft, or not? because youve got to think fitz isnt going to cost more than 10 mil or so a year to sign as an FA and we dont have to give up any draft capital at all.
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Post by jjdbrasil on Feb 5, 2021 13:39:58 GMT -5
DONT'A HIGHTOWER LB, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Patriots CB Devin McCourty said Patriots players who opted out of the 2020 season will return in 2021. New England had a league-high eight players opt out of the 2020 season, an option offered to players who did not want to play while the COVID-19 pandemic raged. "From my understanding they’ll all be back," McCourty told NBC Sports' Tom Curran on Friday. That would include standout linebacker Dont'a Hightower, tackle Marcus Cannon, safety Patrick Chung, tight end Matt LaCosse, running back Brandon Bolden, fullback Dan Vitale, receiver Marqise Lee, and guard Najee Toran. Unless the team upgrades at wideout in the coming months, Lee could instantly become the team's best receiver if he's active in 2021. There was some question as to whether Hightower would return next season; McCourty seems to think he will. Hightower's return would be a crucial addition for one of the league's most talent starved teams.
RELATED: Marqise Lee, Najee Toran, Brandon Bolden, Matt LaCosse SOURCE: Mike Reiss on Twitter Feb 5, 2021, 1:14 PM ET
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Post by rkarp on Feb 5, 2021 13:44:27 GMT -5
DONT'A HIGHTOWER LB, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS Patriots CB Devin McCourty said Patriots players who opted out of the 2020 season will return in 2021. New England had a league-high eight players opt out of the 2020 season, an option offered to players who did not want to play while the COVID-19 pandemic raged. "From my understanding they’ll all be back," McCourty told NBC Sports' Tom Curran on Friday. That would include standout linebacker Dont'a Hightower, tackle Marcus Cannon, safety Patrick Chung, tight end Matt LaCosse, running back Brandon Bolden, fullback Dan Vitale, receiver Marqise Lee, and guard Najee Toran. Unless the team upgrades at wideout in the coming months, Lee could instantly become the team's best receiver if he's active in 2021. There was some question as to whether Hightower would return next season; McCourty seems to think he will. Hightower's return would be a crucial addition for one of the league's most talent starved teams. RELATED: Marqise Lee, Najee Toran, Brandon Bolden, Matt LaCosse SOURCE: Mike Reiss on Twitter Feb 5, 2021, 1:14 PM ET seeing as Curran hates BB and is an axe murderer the info must be wrong
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Post by joeyct on Feb 5, 2021 13:47:07 GMT -5
I'm curious how folks think the year off impacts Hightowers return or any of the opt outs. He'll return older and rustier or rested and healthier.
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Post by rkarp on Feb 5, 2021 13:58:09 GMT -5
I'm curious how folks think the year off impacts Hightowers return or any of the opt outs. He'll return older and rustier or rested and healthier. I would think Cannon, Hightower and Chung have no chance to stay on the team with out taking a cut in pay. Even with that, I would think all 3 are long shots. Cap savings $19m LaCosse might be welcomed back to compete for a spot, but I also would think he is a long shot. Cap savings $1.3m Vitale I believe will either retire or be released. Cap savings $1m Bolden and Lee have a chance to win jobs over the summer/preseason.
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Post by joeyct on Feb 5, 2021 14:45:54 GMT -5
I'm curious how folks think the year off impacts Hightowers return or any of the opt outs. He'll return older and rustier or rested and healthier. I would think Cannon, Hightower and Chung have no chance to stay on the team with out taking a cut in pay. Even with that, I would think all 3 are long shots. Cap savings $19m LaCosse might be welcomed back to compete for a spot, but I also would think he is a long shot. Cap savings $1.3m Vitale I believe will either retire or be released. Cap savings $1m Bolden and Lee have a chance to win jobs over the summer/preseason. So, IYO, their value is more cap relief vs returning productivity. Interesting next few months for sure.
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Post by johngrant on Feb 5, 2021 15:49:08 GMT -5
I'm curious how folks think the year off impacts Hightowers return or any of the opt outs. He'll return older and rustier or rested and healthier. I would think Cannon, Hightower and Chung have no chance to stay on the team with out taking a cut in pay. Even with that, I would think all 3 are long shots. Cap savings $19m LaCosse might be welcomed back to compete for a spot, but I also would think he is a long shot. Cap savings $1.3m Vitale I believe will either retire or be released. Cap savings $1m Bolden and Lee have a chance to win jobs over the summer/preseason. I think that Hightower is the only one of those that they really would like back and they will be watching him like a hawk during training camp to make sure that he hasn’t lost a step.
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Post by portfolio1 on Feb 5, 2021 16:44:40 GMT -5
I hope Hightower is back. I hope they are all competing for a roster spot and those that need to are willing to renegotiate their contracts.
Cannon, with a cut in pay, would be nice to have. But I don't know if that happens.
I would like Vitale to compete. We need a GOOD fullback. Maybe Keene will blossom into a FB who can catch some? That would be nice.
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Post by solly on Feb 5, 2021 16:51:21 GMT -5
I would think Cannon, Hightower and Chung have no chance to stay on the team with out taking a cut in pay. Even with that, I would think all 3 are long shots. Cap savings $19m LaCosse might be welcomed back to compete for a spot, but I also would think he is a long shot. Cap savings $1.3m Vitale I believe will either retire or be released. Cap savings $1m Bolden and Lee have a chance to win jobs over the summer/preseason. So, IYO, their value is more cap relief vs returning productivity. Interesting next few months for sure. I don’t think it’s cap relief, I think it’s the real money they would be paying him. He’d have to take a pay cut to come back I’d guess
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Post by mthurl on Feb 5, 2021 17:26:50 GMT -5
I'm curious how folks think the year off impacts Hightowers return or any of the opt outs. He'll return older and rustier or rested and healthier. That’s a good question, and I’ll add...do the Patriots want him back? He’s often injured, a year older and probably can save a good penny against the cap if they don’t bring him back. Might that money be used better elsewhere? Probably not simply because Hightower’s cap figure now is most likely what you’d have to pay for “average” on the open market, with the way salaries rise. But it’ll be very interesting to watch going forward. Same with all the their opt outs. Cannon is someone I wouldn’t bring back. Right tackle didn’t seem like a problem this year. Chung? Goodbye, already drafted his replacement. That’s one guy that never should have been extended last off season (or was It the previous off season?).
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Post by mthurl on Feb 5, 2021 17:30:10 GMT -5
I hope Hightower is back. I hope they are all competing for a roster spot and those that need to are willing to renegotiate their contracts. Cannon, with a cut in pay, would be nice to have. But I don't know if that happens. I would like Vitale to compete. We need a GOOD fullback. Maybe Keene will blossom into a FB who can catch some? That would be nice. I’d like to see what Vitale can bring...I thought he was kind of an under the radar signing at the time. Don’t want Cannon back. Hightower I’ll take because we certainly have a need and what else are you going to get on the open market for whatever his cap figure is? But Chung is someone I don’t want back, his spot seemed nicely filled by Duggar. LaCosse? There’s the door, good look working at whatever insurance company needs a former athlete for window dressing.
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Post by muzwell on Feb 5, 2021 21:08:51 GMT -5
For what it’s worth, Chung will be on the roster unless he dies. Even then they might pull a Bernie Lomax and prop him up on the bench all year. The contract makes releasing him highly unlikely. It’s cheaper to keep him.
High and Cannon can be cut or restructured. The rest will have a chance to make the team unless they retire. Their contracts are basically minimum NFL wage.
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Post by philskiw on Feb 5, 2021 23:08:46 GMT -5
I forgot all about Brandon bolden
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Post by portfolio1 on Feb 6, 2021 14:45:21 GMT -5
I hope Hightower is back. I hope they are all competing for a roster spot and those that need to are willing to renegotiate their contracts. Cannon, with a cut in pay, would be nice to have. But I don't know if that happens. I would like Vitale to compete. We need a GOOD fullback. Maybe Keene will blossom into a FB who can catch some? That would be nice. I’d like to see what Vitale can bring...I thought he was kind of an under the radar signing at the time. Don’t want Cannon back. Hightower I’ll take because we certainly have a need and what else are you going to get on the open market for whatever his cap figure is? But Chung is someone I don’t want back, his spot seemed nicely filled by Duggar. LaCosse? There’s the door, good look working at whatever insurance company needs a former athlete for window dressing. For the current money I agree about Cannon. But if he renegotiates why not? He has made nice contributions when healthy. I feel the same about Chung. If he can take the right pay he helps bring great experience, stability and success to the D and to any sort of rotation. If the money works one more year from Chung IF HE CAN EARN IT is a good thing. If he can earn it at the RIGHT price. I have no desire for LaCosse. So watch him be the one guy who returns. And yes, I liked the signing of Vitale too. I wonder how the FB position will play out. I really do hope Keene ends up an H back/FB/#2 TE. Or if we can add a really solid TE in FA or draft then drop the TE part.
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Post by jjdbrasil on Feb 9, 2021 17:17:00 GMT -5
CARSON WENTZ QB, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
The Athletic's Jeff Howe reports the Patriots are not a "serious suitor" for Carson Wentz. ESPN's Adam Schefter has confirmed Wentz will be on the move soon, but we have not heard much in the way of possible destinations. The Patriots have plenty of cap space, have a need under, and feature that sort of experienced offensive coordinator who could turn Wentz around, but they understandably don't seem keen on taking on Wentz's toxic deal after his disastrous 2020. The Patriots will probably think smaller or younger as they take a second crack at replacing Tom Brady.
RELATED: New England Patriots SOURCE: The Athletic Feb 9, 2021, 4:54 PM ET
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Post by jjdbrasil on Feb 9, 2021 17:18:06 GMT -5
MARCUS MARIOTA QB, LAS VEGAS RAIDERS
According to The Athletic, the Raiders' "preference" is to trade Marcus Mariota rather than Derek Carr. Mariota is linked to the Patriots in the piece composed by a handful of NFL insiders at The Athletic. Some are thinking Mariota can be the sort of reclamation project Ryan Tannehill was in Tennessee when he ended up taking Mariota's job. Mariota played in one game for the Raiders this past season after Carr was injured early in the first quarter of Week 15 against the Chargers. Mariota was electric in the 30-27 loss, going 17-of-28 for 226 yards and a 1:1 TD:INT mark to go with 88 rushing yards and a second touchdown as a runner. Mariota's biggest problem in the NFL has been his complete inability to stay healthy. It's why the Raiders would prefer to trade him over a reliable Carr.
RELATED: Derek Carr, New England Patriots SOURCE: The Athletic Feb 8, 2021, 9:33 PM ET
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Post by jjdbrasil on Feb 10, 2021 10:47:42 GMT -5
TAYLOR HEINICKE QB, WASHINGTON FOOTBALL TEAM
Washington re-signed QB Taylor Heinicke to a two-year, $8.75 million contract. Heinicke signed to the practice squad in December and replaced Dwayne Haskins as Alex Smith's backup. He started Washington's Wild Card loss with Smith injured, throwing for 306 yards with an interception and two touchdowns. Washington likely would have used a second-round tender on Heinicke, so this is a nice raise. With Kyle Allen an exclusive rights free agent and Alex Smith’s future up in the air, Heinicke has an outside chance to compete for a starting role in 2021.
Feb 10, 2021, 10:35 AM ET
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Post by jjdbrasil on Feb 10, 2021 10:49:03 GMT -5
JOE THUNEY G, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
The Athletic's Jeff Howe reports the Patriots and impending free agent LG Joe Thuney have "never been close to an agreement." 28-year-old Thuney played 2020 under the franchise tag. Another tag and monster cap number aren't going to happen for an interior lineman, and Howe believes the Pats' success with drafting and developing guards will tilt them toward avoiding a long-term deal. Thuney is one of the better offensive linemen in all of football, while the Pats are currently built for the run. We wouldn't say there's a zero percent chance Thuney re-signs.
SOURCE: The Athletic Feb 9, 2021, 5:01 PM ET
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Post by fisher on Feb 10, 2021 12:37:24 GMT -5
I’d like to see what Vitale can bring...I thought he was kind of an under the radar signing at the time. Don’t want Cannon back. Hightower I’ll take because we certainly have a need and what else are you going to get on the open market for whatever his cap figure is? But Chung is someone I don’t want back, his spot seemed nicely filled by Duggar. LaCosse? There’s the door, good look working at whatever insurance company needs a former athlete for window dressing. For the current money I agree about Cannon. But if he renegotiates why not? He has made nice contributions when healthy. I feel the same about Chung. If he can take the right pay he helps bring great experience, stability and success to the D and to any sort of rotation. If the money works one more year from Chung IF HE CAN EARN IT is a good thing. If he can earn it at the RIGHT price. I have no desire for LaCosse. So watch him be the one guy who returns. And yes, I liked the signing of Vitale too. I wonder how the FB position will play out. I really do hope Keene ends up an H back/FB/#2 TE. Or if we can add a really solid TE in FA or draft then drop the TE part. Is a FB really needed anymore... other successful teams don’t use one and wit( holes to fill! Is it a wasted body? this isn’t 1980
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Post by portfolio1 on Feb 10, 2021 12:56:04 GMT -5
For the current money I agree about Cannon. But if he renegotiates why not? He has made nice contributions when healthy. I feel the same about Chung. If he can take the right pay he helps bring great experience, stability and success to the D and to any sort of rotation. If the money works one more year from Chung IF HE CAN EARN IT is a good thing. If he can earn it at the RIGHT price. I have no desire for LaCosse. So watch him be the one guy who returns. And yes, I liked the signing of Vitale too. I wonder how the FB position will play out. I really do hope Keene ends up an H back/FB/#2 TE. Or if we can add a really solid TE in FA or draft then drop the TE part. Is a FB really needed anymore... other successful teams don’t use one and wit( holes to fill! Is it a wasted body? this isn’t 1980 LOL OK my friend. Have you been watching the Patriots these past 20 years? Do you see how BB puts together offenses and defenses that can flex into different game plans depending on the opponent and the conditions? That since BB has been here we have always had a FB as an important part of the team - not always featured but always available? Here are some examples: Going back all the way to 2001: Marc Edwards By the time of the high powered, Brady centered offenses from 2007 on: Heath Evans Starting from 2013: James Devlin (rookie in 2012, starter forward). Devlin lasted through 2019 but was injured that year. So, yes it is not 1980 anymore. But BB has employed a FB on a consistent basis since his first day here over 20 years ago. If you understand BBs philosophy about rosters and about game planning and if you have been actually watching any of the past 20 years you will already know the answer to the question you raised.
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