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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 16, 2023 10:20:59 GMT -5
Problem is we might be waiting a while...sort of like waiting for LeBron to retire... KC was gifted the #1 seed, and the AFCCG and the Superbowl with dubious calls late in the game...supposed to be football, not ballet...let the players decide the game on the field...
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Post by Wozzy on Feb 16, 2023 10:46:26 GMT -5
How much longer does Andy Reid have left, who will replace him?
It’s far more likely this falls apart as soon as he retires than not.
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Post by philskiw on Feb 16, 2023 14:01:04 GMT -5
Brittany Mahomes is a reason to hate them
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Post by agcsbill on Feb 16, 2023 14:55:50 GMT -5
As we progress through the post Super Bowl hoopla, it is something to see media reports of just how the Chiefs' players are acting and their attitudes going forward. Can you feel good about how good your team is? Certainly. But, the way they brag on how this is "just the beginning" etc. appears to be grating on a lot of NFL fans. Of course, the media is all behind it since they can now talk about another dynasty that is not the Patriots. Regardless, we all knew what the Patriots organization had going is unparalleled and may never be matched for its length of time. In order for the Chiefs to be placed up there with the Patriots, 5 years of success is just over a quarter of the way to match the Pats. Also, the Pats got to the AFCCG 9 years in a row, 2011-2018 and the Chiefs are gaining ground there with being there the last 5. It is also nice when you have had home field advantage all those 5, too! I'll finish with this: I watch a fair amount of football and over the years did we see the Pats get their fair amount of breaks? Yes. But the Chiefs? I have never seen a team get the breaks they have gotten these last 5 years and at opportune moments. Hey, a new "king of the hill" always comes down the road and the old one is chucked aside. It happens and accept it.
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Post by texaspat on Feb 16, 2023 16:47:46 GMT -5
As we progress through the post Super Bowl hoopla, it is something to see media reports of just how the Chiefs' players are acting and their attitudes going forward. Can you feel good about how good your team is? Certainly. But, the way they brag on how this is "just the beginning" etc. appears to be grating on a lot of NFL fans. Of course, the media is all behind it since they can now talk about another dynasty that is not the Patriots. Regardless, we all knew what the Patriots organization had going is unparalleled and may never be matched for its length of time. In order for the Chiefs to be placed up there with the Patriots, 5 years of success is just over a quarter of the way to match the Pats. Also, the Pats got to the AFCCG 9 years in a row, 2011-2018 and the Chiefs are gaining ground there with being there the last 5. It is also nice when you have had home field advantage all those 5, too! I'll finish with this: I watch a fair amount of football and over the years did we see the Pats get their fair amount of breaks? Yes. But the Chiefs? I have never seen a team get the breaks they have gotten these last 5 years and at opportune moments. Hey, a new "king of the hill" always comes down the road and the old one is chucked aside. It happens and accept it. The media is using Mahomes , Reid, and the Chiefies to try to cancel Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and all things Patriots from their 2001-19 Dynasty.
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 16, 2023 23:27:11 GMT -5
As we progress through the post Super Bowl hoopla, it is something to see media reports of just how the Chiefs' players are acting and their attitudes going forward. Can you feel good about how good your team is? Certainly. But, the way they brag on how this is "just the beginning" etc. appears to be grating on a lot of NFL fans. Of course, the media is all behind it since they can now talk about another dynasty that is not the Patriots. Regardless, we all knew what the Patriots organization had going is unparalleled and may never be matched for its length of time. In order for the Chiefs to be placed up there with the Patriots, 5 years of success is just over a quarter of the way to match the Pats. Also, the Pats got to the AFCCG 9 years in a row, 2011-2018 and the Chiefs are gaining ground there with being there the last 5. It is also nice when you have had home field advantage all those 5, too! I'll finish with this: I watch a fair amount of football and over the years did we see the Pats get their fair amount of breaks? Yes. But the Chiefs? I have never seen a team get the breaks they have gotten these last 5 years and at opportune moments. Hey, a new "king of the hill" always comes down the road and the old one is chucked aside. It happens and accept it. Good analysis...can't say I exactly like it...still think every year the league leans more and more to the WWE...perhaps the Pats would have 9 with a little love like that...
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Post by agcsbill on Feb 17, 2023 10:42:51 GMT -5
As we progress through the post Super Bowl hoopla, it is something to see media reports of just how the Chiefs' players are acting and their attitudes going forward. Can you feel good about how good your team is? Certainly. But, the way they brag on how this is "just the beginning" etc. appears to be grating on a lot of NFL fans. Of course, the media is all behind it since they can now talk about another dynasty that is not the Patriots. Regardless, we all knew what the Patriots organization had going is unparalleled and may never be matched for its length of time. In order for the Chiefs to be placed up there with the Patriots, 5 years of success is just over a quarter of the way to match the Pats. Also, the Pats got to the AFCCG 9 years in a row, 2011-2018 and the Chiefs are gaining ground there with being there the last 5. It is also nice when you have had home field advantage all those 5, too! I'll finish with this: I watch a fair amount of football and over the years did we see the Pats get their fair amount of breaks? Yes. But the Chiefs? I have never seen a team get the breaks they have gotten these last 5 years and at opportune moments. Hey, a new "king of the hill" always comes down the road and the old one is chucked aside. It happens and accept it. The media is using Mahomes , Reid, and the Chiefies to try to cancel Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and all things Patriots from their 2001-19 Dynasty. I do not think the media has yet to say the Chiefs' dynasty is on par with the Patriots run but they are the current dynasty. Which in NFL media parlance, is the current dominating team regardless of how many years they are on their run, right?
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Post by agcsbill on Feb 17, 2023 10:44:41 GMT -5
As we progress through the post Super Bowl hoopla, it is something to see media reports of just how the Chiefs' players are acting and their attitudes going forward. Can you feel good about how good your team is? Certainly. But, the way they brag on how this is "just the beginning" etc. appears to be grating on a lot of NFL fans. Of course, the media is all behind it since they can now talk about another dynasty that is not the Patriots. Regardless, we all knew what the Patriots organization had going is unparalleled and may never be matched for its length of time. In order for the Chiefs to be placed up there with the Patriots, 5 years of success is just over a quarter of the way to match the Pats. Also, the Pats got to the AFCCG 9 years in a row, 2011-2018 and the Chiefs are gaining ground there with being there the last 5. It is also nice when you have had home field advantage all those 5, too! I'll finish with this: I watch a fair amount of football and over the years did we see the Pats get their fair amount of breaks? Yes. But the Chiefs? I have never seen a team get the breaks they have gotten these last 5 years and at opportune moments. Hey, a new "king of the hill" always comes down the road and the old one is chucked aside. It happens and accept it. Good analysis...can't say I exactly like it...still think every year the league leans more and more to the WWE...perhaps the Pats would have 9 with a little love like that... Whenever I think of the Chiefs with Mahomes, I just imagine how good Brady's stats would have been if his supporting cast on offense was built around him like the Chiefs have built theirs around Mahomes? As good as Mahomes is, his supporting cast helps a lot, doesn't it?
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Post by salcon on Feb 17, 2023 11:05:03 GMT -5
Good analysis...can't say I exactly like it...still think every year the league leans more and more to the WWE...perhaps the Pats would have 9 with a little love like that... Whenever I think of the Chiefs with Mahomes, I just imagine how good Brady's stats would have been if his supporting cast on offense was built around him like the Chiefs have built theirs around Mahomes? As good as Mahomes is, his supporting cast helps a lot, doesn't it? His supporting cast helps but so does his athleticism and his coach Andy Reid.
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Post by texaspat on Feb 17, 2023 11:47:13 GMT -5
Whenever I think of the Chiefs with Mahomes, I just imagine how good Brady's stats would have been if his supporting cast on offense was built around him like the Chiefs have built theirs around Mahomes? As good as Mahomes is, his supporting cast helps a lot, doesn't it? His supporting cast helps but so does his athleticism and his coach Andy Reid. Have you noticed how the media hasn't gotten into who's responsible or the Chiefies' success - St. Patrick or the Walrus?
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Post by salcon on Feb 17, 2023 12:04:54 GMT -5
His supporting cast helps but so does his athleticism and his coach Andy Reid. Have you noticed how the media hasn't gotten into who's responsible or the Chiefies' success - St. Patrick or the Walrus? Yeah, you know the league wants Mahomes as their cover boy. The players are the money makers especially when Fantasy Football got popular. No one cares about the coaches no matter how important to the team's success they are. It's how Tom Brady got all the credit when we won but none of the blame when we lost.
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Post by agcsbill on Feb 17, 2023 17:24:49 GMT -5
Whenever I think of the Chiefs with Mahomes, I just imagine how good Brady's stats would have been if his supporting cast on offense was built around him like the Chiefs have built theirs around Mahomes? As good as Mahomes is, his supporting cast helps a lot, doesn't it? His supporting cast helps but so does his athleticism and his coach Andy Reid. I agree about Mahomes about how good he is but that cast certainly helps. It is unbelievable how open his receivers get and the catches they make. Imagine Brady with that cast back in his heydays?
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Post by paulk on Feb 17, 2023 18:57:41 GMT -5
I don't like running quarterbacks.
Sooner or later a running quarterback becomes a limping quarterback, simply because running quarterbacks get hit more. Mahomes managed to play through his particular limp through this year's playoffs but someday he might not always be so lucky. That's why I can't see Mahomes winning six Super Bowls. His two legs won't last that long.
Tom Brady was a big 240 pound, 6'5" quarterback. One part of his 23 year longevity was his sheer bulk. It's harder to hit a massive player hard enough to count. Also, Brady had a lightning quick release that frustrated blitzers, so opponents learned to leave his body alone and drop 7 players into coverage.
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Post by texaspat on Feb 19, 2023 10:25:18 GMT -5
I don't like running quarterbacks. Sooner or later a running quarterback becomes a limping quarterback, simply because running quarterbacks get hit more. Mahomes managed to play through his particular limp through this year's playoffs but someday he might not always be so lucky. That's why I can't see Mahomes winning six Super Bowls. His two legs won't last that long. Tom Brady was a big 240 pound, 6'5" quarterback. One part of his 23 year longevity was his sheer bulk. It's harder to hit a massive player hard enough to count. Also, Brady had a lightning quick release that frustrated blitzers, so opponents learned to leave his body alone and drop 7 players into coverage. I agree Paul - but will also add that Brady was better than Mahomes. He could accomplish more with less due to his ability to read defenses, his leadership abilities, and his deadly accuracy. For example, let's go back to the 2006 season where Brady led his Patriots over a superior San Diego Chargers team on the road. His tools were the late Rache Caldwell, a past his prime Troy Brown, and Jabar Gaffney. No way St. Patrick could have matched that. Brady also would have outdueled The Horseface in Indy were it not for a slew of injuries to the Patriots defense and a biased bunch of zebras determined to allowed the Horseface to win a title - because the NFL wanted Peyton Manning and not Tom Brady to be the face of the league. In other words, Brady with Stone Age like tools can within an eyelash of winning another SB. Maybe some day we'll see how St. Patrick performs with only an average OL and a below average set of receivers to work with.
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Post by texaspat on Feb 19, 2023 10:27:29 GMT -5
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Post by texaspat on Feb 21, 2023 17:09:52 GMT -5
Did St. Patrick use performance enhancing drugs to miraculously heal his damaged ankle? Can any of you ever remember a player with a high ankle sprain recover so quickly? Folks, St. Patrick could barely walk at halftime in the Super Bowl. Yet he comes back almost as good as new in the second half? There's been rumors to this effect: www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N34V1SSBut of course ESPN and the fair and square NFL has claimed that they are false - going instead with the story that it was just an incredible athletic performance from the guy who they want to be the face of the league. You be the judge.
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Post by negame on Feb 21, 2023 17:23:30 GMT -5
Did St. Patrick use performance enhancing drugs to miraculously heal his damaged ankle? Can any of you ever remember a player with a high ankle sprain recover so quickly? Folks, St. Patrick could barely walk at halftime in the Super Bowl. Yet he comes back almost as good as new in the second half? There's been rumors to this effect: www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N34V1SSBut of course ESPN and the fair and square NFL has claimed that they are false - going instead with the story that it was just an incredible athletic performance from the guy who they want to be the face of the league. You be the judge. I think he's another Roethlisberger, when ever things get difficult oops he gets hurt but miraculously comes back and saves the day. Hes a fraud.
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Post by salcon on Feb 21, 2023 19:40:13 GMT -5
Did St. Patrick use performance enhancing drugs to miraculously heal his damaged ankle? Can any of you ever remember a player with a high ankle sprain recover so quickly? Folks, St. Patrick could barely walk at halftime in the Super Bowl. Yet he comes back almost as good as new in the second half? There's been rumors to this effect: www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N34V1SSBut of course ESPN and the fair and square NFL has claimed that they are false - going instead with the story that it was just an incredible athletic performance from the guy who they want to be the face of the league. You be the judge. I think he's another Roethlisberger, when ever things get difficult oops he gets hurt but miraculously comes back and saves the day. Hes a fraud. Fraud? You mean like Mazz? 🤣
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Post by texaspat on Feb 21, 2023 19:48:26 GMT -5
Did St. Patrick use performance enhancing drugs to miraculously heal his damaged ankle? Can any of you ever remember a player with a high ankle sprain recover so quickly? Folks, St. Patrick could barely walk at halftime in the Super Bowl. Yet he comes back almost as good as new in the second half? There's been rumors to this effect: www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N34V1SSBut of course ESPN and the fair and square NFL has claimed that they are false - going instead with the story that it was just an incredible athletic performance from the guy who they want to be the face of the league. You be the judge. I think he's another Roethlisberger, when ever things get difficult oops he gets hurt but miraculously comes back and saves the day. Hes a fraud. Remember how Buzzards' LB Ray Lewis miraculously recovered from injury to play and rule in SB against Colin K. and the 49ers in the Super Bowl by taking some kind of deer antler testosterone? No way St. Patrick could play that well on a high ankle sprain after he went off limping in the first half. Remember how Gronk tried to play with a high ankle sprain in SB 46? The league and its minions in the media covered up for Ray Lewis, too: www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1508224-ray-lewis-and-deer-antler-spray-just-what-is-this-stuff.amp.htmlThe NFL and Commissioner Goodell have zero credibility. Both the league and its Fuehrer are known liars. Can you imagine the investigation that would have been launched by the league if Tom Brady pulled off what St. Patrick did?
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Post by texaspat on Mar 3, 2023 14:03:09 GMT -5
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Post by solly on Mar 3, 2023 14:05:19 GMT -5
How much longer does Andy Reid have left, who will replace him? It’s far more likely this falls apart as soon as he retires than not. Mahomes has made Andy Reid relevant, one day you'll realize how important the quarterback is. This is you begging for the Chiefs to fall apart
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 3, 2023 17:29:01 GMT -5
Mahomes has made Andy Reid relevant, one day you'll realize how important the quarterback is. This is you begging for the Chiefs to fall apart Andy Reid played us in a Super Bowl back when Patrick Mahomes was in middle school clown.
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Post by solly on Mar 3, 2023 17:33:38 GMT -5
Mahomes has made Andy Reid relevant, one day you'll realize how important the quarterback is. This is you begging for the Chiefs to fall apart Andy Reid played us in a Super Bowl back when Patrick Mahomes was in middle school clown. Andy Reid won 0 super bowls in 20 years without Mahomes and won 2 in 5 years with him, hosting the AFC champ game in all 5. Definitely not a difference at all. You used to like winning, what happened?
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 3, 2023 17:40:32 GMT -5
Andy Reid won 0 super bowls in 20 years without Mahomes and won 2 in 5 years with him, hosting the AFC champ game in all 5. Definitely not a difference at all. You used to like winning, what happened? Drew Brees has one ring, so does Aaron Rogers, Marino has none... Eli Manning has two, Joe Gibbs won three with three different journeyman QB's. Magic! Winning a ring is hard. Just because the Patriots made it look easy, doesn't make it so. You sound like a millennial who wore Brady pajamas growing up and attributes everything in football to unicorns and fairys.
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Post by solly on Mar 3, 2023 17:43:30 GMT -5
Andy Reid won 0 super bowls in 20 years without Mahomes and won 2 in 5 years with him, hosting the AFC champ game in all 5. Definitely not a difference at all. You used to like winning, what happened? Drew Brees has one ring, so does Aaron Rogers, Marino has none... Eli Manning has two, Joe Gibbs won three with three different journeyman QB's. Magic! Winning a ring is hard. Just because the Patriots made it look easy, doesn't make it so. You sound like a millennial who wore Brady pajamas growing up and attributes everything in football to unicorns and fairys. Winning is apparently easy when you have mahomes or Brady. Not so much when you don’t. Thanks for proving my point and bringing Brady into an argument for no reason
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