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Post by oklahomapatriot on Aug 14, 2021 10:25:24 GMT -5
Gronk made the number. No one should be wearing it.
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Post by jri37 on Aug 14, 2021 10:32:27 GMT -5
Ben Coates was a pretty damn good 87. Gronk will get his red jacket that's all any Patriot great needs.
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Post by CWTB on Aug 14, 2021 10:41:34 GMT -5
Ben Coates was a pretty damn good 87. Gronk will get his red jacket that's all any Patriot great needs. 94 was MONSTER Year for a TE especially in that time of the game. He started it all. TE's weren't doing what he was doing. Great Blocker too, reason he was Drafted. |
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Post by wazzu on Aug 14, 2021 10:49:14 GMT -5
Build him a statue but leave the number available.
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Post by CWTB on Aug 14, 2021 10:56:11 GMT -5
40 yards? Healthy Gronk or Healthy Coates. I'll take Coates. He could fly for a TE, at 250 LBS.
Born 10 years too early, imagine Coates, in the 2000's, with us?
So glad he got a Ring with the Ravens. That 96 team was a Bad Ass team.
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Retire #87
Aug 14, 2021 11:19:20 GMT -5
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Post by texaspat on Aug 14, 2021 11:19:20 GMT -5
Ben Coates was a pretty damn good 87. Gronk will get his red jacket that's all any Patriot great needs. Why a red jacket? The British wore red - the Patriots wore blue. The Patriots for the most part sucked in those red uniforms - and crushed it in the blue uniforms. So, why the red jackets? They should be blue jackets!! As for #87, the Patriots should not have scrubs running around in that jersey. Set it aside, until the number is officially retired - as it should be. |
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Post by Wozzy on Aug 14, 2021 11:21:08 GMT -5
There's only so many numbers, they need to stop retiring all numbers and put them all in circulation.
Patriots HOF is the honor.
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Post by TFB12 on Aug 14, 2021 11:23:35 GMT -5
As long as retiring numbers is still a thing, yes!!! Gronks number should be retired.
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Post by jri37 on Aug 14, 2021 11:23:39 GMT -5
Ben Coates was a pretty damn good 87. Gronk will get his red jacket that's all any Patriot great needs. Why a red jacket? The British wore red - the Patriots wore blue. The Patriots for the most part sucked in those red uniforms - and crushed it in the blue uniforms. So, why the red jackets? They should be blue jackets!! As for #87, the Patriots should not have scrubs running around in that jersey. Set it aside, until the number is officially retired - as it should be. Take the jacket color up with Kraft. Being in the Patriots HOF is the honor the number is just that a number. |
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Retire #87
Aug 14, 2021 11:37:58 GMT -5
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Post by solly on Aug 14, 2021 11:37:58 GMT -5
From this era 12 and 87 should be retired, two of the best players ever at their positions
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Post by thejuice on Aug 14, 2021 11:59:53 GMT -5
ive always thought that retiring numbers is silly... if you want, hang a banner or sign with the players name... and as someone suggested, put them into the team hall of fame. if we never started retiring numbers years back, no one would be whining about it now.
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Retire #87
Aug 14, 2021 12:41:33 GMT -5
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Post by patslifer on Aug 14, 2021 12:41:33 GMT -5
40 yards? Healthy Gronk or Healthy Coates. I'll take Coates. He could fly for a TE, at 250 LBS. Born 10 years too early, imagine Coates, in the 2000's, with us? So glad he got a Ring with the Ravens. That 96 team was a Bad Ass team. I take Gronk. |
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Post by CWTB on Aug 14, 2021 12:43:37 GMT -5
40 yards? Healthy Gronk or Healthy Coates. I'll take Coates. He could fly for a TE, at 250 LBS. Born 10 years too early, imagine Coates, in the 2000's, with us? So glad he got a Ring with the Ravens. That 96 team was a Bad Ass team. I take Gronk. 3 cone yes. Not straight line. That seam Pass by Bledsoe to him, always surprised Safeties how fast he was. He out ran Corner's. |
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Post by CWTB on Aug 14, 2021 12:51:34 GMT -5
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Post by patslifer on Aug 14, 2021 12:52:16 GMT -5
3 cone yes. Not straight line. That seam Pass by Bledsoe to him, always surprised Safeties how fast he was. He out ran Corner's. Oh sorry. I thought you meant to march 40 yards down the field and have to score to win the game. I’ll take Gronk here. You can have Coates in the 40 yard dash. |
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Post by CWTB on Aug 14, 2021 12:57:42 GMT -5
3 cone yes. Not straight line. That seam Pass by Bledsoe to him, always surprised Safeties how fast he was. He out ran Corner's. Oh sorry. I thought you meant to march 40 yards down the field and have to score to win the game. I’ll take Gronk here. You can have Coates in the 40 yard dash. OH Sorry, thought you meant they weren't good Football Players. Just the one. |
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Post by mthurl on Aug 14, 2021 13:02:37 GMT -5
40 yards? Healthy Gronk or Healthy Coates. I'll take Coates. He could fly for a TE, at 250 LBS. Born 10 years too early, imagine Coates, in the 2000's, with us? So glad he got a Ring with the Ravens. That 96 team was a Bad Ass team. I’m a HUGE Coates fan, but if I had to chose between the two?? I don’t know, probably a tie. Coates was just so quick/fast for his size and he was absolutely money between two defenders over the middle. Yet Gronk was bigger/taller, a better blocker, probably better runner after the catch, more physical. Yet Coates seemed more athletic, polished as a pass catcher, and he too was physically imposing. Imagine these two together?? My lord! But you bring up a great point, you can’t retire the number because of Gronk, Coates needs to be part of the equation...and maybe they never should retire it? Just let it be known that tight ends (legendary tight ends) wore that number, and they will need to continue with tight ends wearing it, only. So take it away from the rookie WR. Edit — As much as I love Coates, I guess I do have to put Gronk ahead of him. Darn. |
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Post by CWTB on Aug 14, 2021 13:07:43 GMT -5
When you retire one number you forget your Teams History. Been around since Day 1. Seen many good ones. You can't play any favorites if you love your team.
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Post by solly on Aug 14, 2021 13:20:28 GMT -5
When you retire one number you forget your Teams History. Been around since Day 1. Seen many good ones. You can't play any favorites if you love your team. The patriots have 7 numbers retired. They shouldn’t be the Celtics and retire everybody, but 87 was worn probably by the greatest tight end ever, for a pretty long period of time here…that one should be added imo |
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Post by zenape on Aug 14, 2021 13:24:07 GMT -5
Makes me want to build a Madden dream team (theme team?) with nothing but Pats players. Gronk and Coates in a two tight end set would be unstoppable.
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Post by philskiw on Aug 14, 2021 13:53:04 GMT -5
Time to have a ring of honor at the stadium. Only retire 12
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Post by CWTB on Aug 14, 2021 14:25:38 GMT -5
Time to have a ring of honor at the stadium. Only retire 12 I can dig this! |
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Post by muzwell on Aug 14, 2021 14:32:35 GMT -5
40 yards? Healthy Gronk or Healthy Coates. I'll take Coates. He could fly for a TE, at 250 LBS. Born 10 years too early, imagine Coates, in the 2000's, with us? So glad he got a Ring with the Ravens. That 96 team was a Bad Ass team. I’m a HUGE Coates fan, but if I had to chose between the two?? I don’t know, probably a tie. Coates was just so quick/fast for his size and he was absolutely money between two defenders over the middle. Yet Gronk was bigger/taller, a better blocker, probably better runner after the catch, more physical. Yet Coates seemed more athletic, polished as a pass catcher, and he too was physically imposing. Imagine these two together?? My lord! But you bring up a great point, you can’t retire the number because of Gronk, Coates needs to be part of the equation...and maybe they never should retire it? Just let it be known that tight ends (legendary tight ends) wore that number, and they will need to continue with tight ends wearing it, only. So take it away from the rookie WR. Edit — As much as I love Coates, I guess I do have to put Gronk ahead of him. Darn. This. It's like 88 in Dallas, only give it to guys you think can live up to the number. To me, that's a far better legacy than it being retired. More interesting. You want to retire 12, fine. But that should be it and as much as I loved Nelson, Hannah, Bruce Armstrong, Mike Haynes and Tippett, those numbers should be available too. |
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Post by CWTB on Aug 14, 2021 14:34:14 GMT -5
Lifer is a good Poster, don't mean to sound like a A-Hole. Just like certain players, Coates is one that to me never gets enough love from Patriot Fans.
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Post by PatsFanInExile on Aug 14, 2021 14:40:02 GMT -5
Do not, I repeat, do not follow the Celtics example of retiring every number under the sun. And it didn’t stop there, with the comical ‘Loscy’.
It’s a slippery slope once you’ve started and as you start down the slope you’ve diminished the true legends.
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