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Post by TrueChamp on Oct 27, 2021 12:52:58 GMT -5
PFF toilet paper keeps track of some pretty cool stuff imo. You can argue about player grades but I don't read anything like this on espn or whatever. Big Barmore is a stud!
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Oct 27, 2021 13:06:16 GMT -5
I don't get the vitriol for PFF. I mean, they watch every snap of every game, for every player (to my knowledge), and provide grades, based on their system/criteria. Are their ratings gospel or an end-all-be-all? No... but, like draft eval, they're a valuable piece of the eval, IMO.
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Post by muzwell on Oct 27, 2021 13:07:16 GMT -5
He's already a force. Name whoever you want, okay maybe not Aaron Donald but short of that he's as good as any interior guy right now. He is not as strong as Seymour (who is?) but more athletic.
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Post by ATJ on Oct 27, 2021 13:09:54 GMT -5
Gotta be a bust - Belichick 2nd rounder.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Oct 27, 2021 13:11:40 GMT -5
He's already a force. Name whoever you want, okay maybe not Aaron Donald but short of that he's as good as any interior guy right now. He is not as strong as Seymour (who is?) but more athletic. Yeah, before all is said and done, I think Aaron Donald will be up there with the LT's, Deion's, Lott's, Ed Reed's and Reggie White's of the world. |
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Post by johngrant on Oct 27, 2021 13:20:32 GMT -5
Seems like he makes a lot of tackles down the line of scrimmage and even out to the hashes. Must be hustling
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Post by muzwell on Oct 27, 2021 13:22:12 GMT -5
He's already a force. Name whoever you want, okay maybe not Aaron Donald but short of that he's as good as any interior guy right now. He is not as strong as Seymour (who is?) but more athletic. Yeah, before all is said and done, I think Aaron Donald will be up there with the LT's, Deion's, Lott's, Ed Reed's and Reggie White's of the world. I'd say he's about there now. JJ Watt was pretty damn close, too. |
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Oct 27, 2021 13:30:12 GMT -5
Yeah, before all is said and done, I think Aaron Donald will be up there with the LT's, Deion's, Lott's, Ed Reed's and Reggie White's of the world. I'd say he's about there now. JJ Watt was pretty damn close, too. That's fair, as he's arguably the best player in the entire league. |
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Post by PatsFanInExile on Oct 27, 2021 13:42:21 GMT -5
Donald is out of this world. Had he played in a different era, where QBs held the ball longer in the passing game and when the running game was emphasized more, his dominance would have shown even more. As it is, with double-teams on almost every snap, and the quick-release passing game, it’s a credit to him that his motor never stops, and the stats are piled up by those guys around him, whose job is made easier by AD’s presence.
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Post by philskiw on Oct 27, 2021 15:02:50 GMT -5
I love me some Barmore. We wont regret this pick.
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Post by rkarp on Oct 27, 2021 15:28:27 GMT -5
I don't get the vitriol for PFF. I mean, they watch every snap of every game, for every player (to my knowledge), and provide grades, based on their system/criteria. Are their ratings gospel or an end-all-be-all? No... but, like draft eval, they're a valuable piece of the eval, IMO. of course they are. they put a number on an evaluation for easier comparison. agree or disagree with their criteria. use it or not. for this forum it is a discussion point. for all NFL teams and numerous college teams, it is an invaluable tool. Wozzy doesn't like it however, so it must be wet toilet paper |
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Post by mthurl on Oct 29, 2021 21:34:04 GMT -5
Had the pleasure of seeing both Barmore and Seymour in both their rookie training camps (with Seymour being a LOT CLOSER in my line of view than Barmore) and both were HUGE standouts. With Seymour it was back in the Bryant College camps...guy just drove offensive tackles right into the ground on pass rush drills. And with Barmore - me sitting much further away - he busted through double teams in pass rush drills, and I literally couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Because defensive linemen don’t move like that, much less rookies. Plus, like I said, I was sitting far away.
I would say, in comparison, Barmore was more fluid and athletic. And Seymour was bigger, stronger, and more consistent.
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Post by TrueChamp on Oct 30, 2021 12:04:43 GMT -5
Had the pleasure of seeing both Barmore and Seymour in both their rookie training camps (with Seymour being a LOT CLOSER in my line of view than Barmore) and both were HUGE standouts. With Seymour it was back in the Bryant College camps...guy just drove offensive tackles right into the ground on pass rush drills. And with Barmore - me sitting much further away - he busted through double teams in pass rush drills, and I literally couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Because defensive linemen don’t move like that, much less rookies. Plus, like I said, I was sitting far away. I would say, in comparison, Barmore was more fluid and athletic. And Seymour was bigger, stronger, and more consistent. Good stuff! |
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