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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 27, 2023 13:10:38 GMT -5
This thought implies BB is still making the picks in April, and has been flashing in my head for months. Most fans are hoping for a QB with the first pick, as that is NE's #1 need, even with some late season juice from Bailey Zappe, who has played well in halves/flashes. Others are dreaming about Marvin Harrison Jr. coming to town, with a top 5 pick, and providing them with a true, alpha, #1 X receiver they haven't had since Randy Moss. But... I can't shake the idea of who BB truly covets in that range, and I'd bet a steak that he probably has this player's poster above his bed.
He checks basically every box for them, plays a premium position of need, and looks to be about as safe a player as you can take early. He's projected to be the proverbial "10-year starter at the position", has elite size and athleticism, has been a three-year starter, is well coached, with sound technique and fundamentals, comes from terrific bloodlines (his dad was a long-time player, and former pro bowl OT), and he was a team captain.
The player is ND OT Joe Alt.
As things stand today, I could see him being their #1 pick, then they target their QB on day 2 (or via trade back into Rd 1, with JJ McCarthy being a very good fit for what they like to do, with a run-heavy O, and good D), along with a WR. Georgia WR Ladd McConkey is my favorite player in this class, and a guy I'd love to see in Foxboro (his dad was a WR for the Parcells/BB Giants). Pair him with a FA signing (I really want Tee Higgins), and Pop Douglas, and let the new QB (Oh yeah, sign a guy in FA, whether that be Baker, Flacco, or Minshew, etc.) eat.
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Post by wazzu on Dec 27, 2023 13:14:43 GMT -5
It’s a good thought. I’d have to watch more of Alt to really chime in on this. I worry a little that he’s more of a “safe” than “elite” prospect. There are many people who believe that he isn’t even the Top OT in this class. I’ll need to see more before I judge. If he’s all that you say he is, then yes, I’d definitely be on board with NE picking him and solidifying their OL.
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Dec 27, 2023 13:17:47 GMT -5
I actually think BB's top choice could be Brock Bowers. He helps you with two needs, as a pass-catcher and as a blocker. Picking him at 4 may be a slight reach, but I think Bill would trade down to 7/8 and pick him there while picking up a couple of early round draft picks in the process.
But Joe Alt would be a great pick. I like him more than Fashanu, who I think is too raw.
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Post by thejuice on Dec 27, 2023 13:45:44 GMT -5
if alt is the real deal, i have no issue taking him at 4... i would just love for them to trade back up in rd 1 a bit later to pick jayden daniels if he is still there..
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 27, 2023 13:47:45 GMT -5
I want Daniels. By taking alt this team will look to come back next year with zappe or a bridge QB. If it was to belichick it would be Jimmy g spot. I just don’t like the idea. Gonna be another down year next year again.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 27, 2023 13:49:56 GMT -5
I actually think BB's top choice could be Brock Bowers. He helps you with two needs, as a pass-catcher and as a blocker. Picking him at 4 may be a slight reach, but I think Bill would trade down to 7/8 and pick him there while picking up a couple of early round draft picks in the process. But Joe Alt would be a great pick. I like him more than Fashanu, who I think is too raw. BB trading down would be typical. Again QB is everything in this league. I am just ready to move on from BB the gm. I like the coach just not the GM. Defensively I like him . Offensively not so much. |
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Post by section136 on Dec 27, 2023 13:55:24 GMT -5
A very solid well thought out plan! Love it!
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Post by thehub on Dec 27, 2023 14:24:10 GMT -5
If BB is the man making the pics the. Joe Alt at 4 is the pick.
Jimmy G comes in to compete with Mac and Zappe.
We draft another QB in the 4th or 5th as well.
And the losing continues by the way.
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Post by muzwell on Dec 27, 2023 14:46:22 GMT -5
I like picking a 10 year LT. Very much. Absolutely can’t go wrong. The quarterbacks all seem somehow flawed and I want no part of a receiver that’s anything less than the second coming of Randy Moss that high.
I have waffled a bit lately. But I don’t think Bill will be making the picks. Just reading tea leaves. I mean if he was coming back wouldn’t Kraft have said as much? He’s allowing speculation to run rampant instead of squashing it with one simple statement?
I think there will be a parting. I don’t think I’ll get my wish of a radical cleansing but I do think a change is happening.
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Post by jean74 on Dec 27, 2023 14:50:10 GMT -5
Need an OL and really could build around Bailey Zappe. And really think that Mac Jones day over with the Patriots is over and done though it is not all his fault. But really seems like a nice guy. Utilize and beef up your OL.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 27, 2023 14:50:20 GMT -5
If BB is the man making the pics the. Joe Alt at 4 is the pick. Jimmy G comes in to compete with Mac and Zappe. We draft another QB in the 4th or 5th as well. And the losing continues by the way. Nothing will change if that happens . It’s still more likely you get a franchise QB in the first round than the later rounds. |
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 27, 2023 14:51:25 GMT -5
Need an OL and really could build around Bailey Zappe. And really think that Mac Jones day over with the Patriots is over and done though it is not all his fault. But really seems like a nice guy. Utilize and beef up your OL. Building around zappe could blow up in the pats face next year but i feel they will bring in a bridge QB if bb is still the gm. |
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Post by PatsFanInExile on Dec 27, 2023 15:07:23 GMT -5
I wouldn’t hate this, but I might come to love it over time. They definitely need a LT. I saw Alt a handful of times: excellent in the run game; I think there are concerns in pass protection, where he’ll be up against top talent every week in the NFL. I thought he had a bad game against Louisville and one other I watched. Maybe it’s fixable, maybe not. This is not the 1980’s NFL.
He might be good enough that with additional help on offense and guys that are returning gets the record to 8-9 or 7-10. That’s like sailing into the ocean doldrums. Not horrible enough to be in contention for an elite QB in ‘25, but not a playoff team either.
I haven’t made up my mind yet (not that they’ll be calling me on draft night), but I think I’m leaning QB in round 1, even though I don’t see an elite QB, and said QB is unlikely to both start and win a bunch of games in year 1. So, my thinking is if you draft a QB, and still go 5-12 or 6-11 you might still be in draft position for a 10-year talent in ‘25.
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Post by wonderdrums on Dec 27, 2023 15:13:48 GMT -5
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Post by froglegs on Dec 27, 2023 15:28:16 GMT -5
I still want them to draft the best QB available.
For the OT problems: re-sign Michael Onwenu and throw the money at Tyron Smith if necessary.
Of course in that scenario it would not hurt to draft an OT with their high 2nd rnd pick.
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Post by quagmire3 on Dec 27, 2023 15:29:33 GMT -5
I like picking a 10 year LT. Very much. Absolutely can’t go wrong. I agree. However, I want a 10-year Patriot! This assumes the Pats re-sign the guy after 5 years and don't let him walk! |
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 27, 2023 15:34:53 GMT -5
The kid from the same Alma mater of Samuel reminds of deebo. That’s Xavier legette. I like receivers that in tough conferences. |
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 27, 2023 20:14:20 GMT -5
Unless...
1) You believe Zappe is a QB they should commit building the team around for at least the next three years, AND
2) They should go on SB-or-bust mode this year...
I cannot understand how you can have a pick in the top 5 and not come away with a QB.
People who say they should find a bridge QB need to ask themselves... a bridge to where? You could end up stuck with a bridge to nowhere.
If you are too scared to pick the wrong QB in the top 5 now, you'll be too scared to any QB in the top 5.
That is assuming you ever find yourself again in the top 5.
Three months ago, I truly thought they should acquire the LT first. After some thought, I decided that you do not build around a LT. You build around a QB. Ideally, everything you add to the team complements that QB (strengths and weaknesses).
LTs/OLs, you do not need the very best. They can be found in the latter half of Rd 1. That's what you should be targeting in Rd 1 of the year after you find the QB you are willing to commit to.
WRs? Tyreek, Deebo, etc were not picked in Rd 1.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 27, 2023 20:17:01 GMT -5
The kid from the same Alma mater of Samuel reminds of deebo. That’s Xavier legette. I like receivers that in tough conferences. If the 40 and agility drills check out, I like Malik Washington of Virginia. Shortish but thick and quick. Currently he is currently ranked 190 on PFF's big board. |
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Post by wonderdrums on Dec 27, 2023 20:52:33 GMT -5
The kid from the same Alma mater of Samuel reminds of deebo. That’s Xavier legette. I like receivers that in tough conferences. If the 40 and agility drills check out, I like Malik Washington of Virginia. Shortish but thick and quick. Currently he is currently ranked 190 on PFF's big board. . I checked him out. I think he’s ok. At 5’9 190lbs he’s on the smaller side but he plays tough. Not sure how that style would translate with bigger players hitting him but someone will certainly draft him. The team needs football players. Receivers like Washington or Corley would be great adds in the middle rounds. Obviously Xavier Legette would be great but at #4 would be a reach and he won’t be there in the second round. |
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Post by freediro on Dec 27, 2023 22:21:33 GMT -5
if alt is the real deal, i have no issue taking him at 4... i would just love for them to trade back up in rd 1 a bit later to pick jayden daniels if he is still there.. why so we can be the Browns with Joe Thomas for the next 10 years? Cool |
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Post by freediro on Dec 27, 2023 22:22:41 GMT -5
Need an OL and really could build around Bailey Zappe. And really think that Mac Jones day over with the Patriots is over and done though it is not all his fault. But really seems like a nice guy. Utilize and beef up your OL. we’d be exactly as bad as we are now |
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Post by freediro on Dec 27, 2023 22:23:25 GMT -5
I still want them to draft the best QB available. For the OT problems: re-sign Michael Onwenu and throw the money at Tyron Smith if necessary. Of course in that scenario it would not hurt to draft an OT with their high 2nd rnd pick. Id rather sign a proven vet in FA and then maybe still grab a OT in the 4th or later round |
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Post by wonderdrums on Dec 27, 2023 23:18:02 GMT -5
if alt is the real deal, i have no issue taking him at 4... i would just love for them to trade back up in rd 1 a bit later to pick jayden daniels if he is still there.. why so we can be the Browns with Joe Thomas for the next 10 years? Cool The Browns have had plenty of first round picks. Including drafting Thomas and Brady Quinn in 2007 they’ve had 20 first round picks. They’ve had 5 years with 2 first rounders in a 10 year span with one of those years having 3 first round picks. If NE had this many chances there’s no way they’d be so deprived of talent this season. |
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Post by garytx on Dec 28, 2023 10:12:22 GMT -5
This is a chicken or the egg kinda deal. Neither position grows on trees. The one thing that stands out is if you draft QB first you will loose out on OTs. Even in the later rounds. If you draft OT first there will be a couple of QBs there with the 2nd pick. This is basically due to this draft being a deep QB draft.
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