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Post by zenape on Jan 12, 2024 13:34:11 GMT -5
I see that Trent Brown gave a big seal of approval to Mayo being selected for Head Coach. One of the things that has always interested me in not just Football but life in general, is our vast differences in mentality and personality. Trent Brown never really fit into the BB way of coaching, and there was a lot of stress in the relationship and Browns time here was rife with highs and lows, largely depending upon what was going on in the locker room at the time and how he perceived he was being treated. Some people are like pieces of iron, throw then in the forge and pound on them and you can shape them into incredible things. Some break easily under that kind of treatment, and respond better to coddling and handholding. They can be no less great that way it should be noted. I'm finding myself wondering if the Trent Brown era isn't quite over yet with the addition of Mayo as head coach. He's certainly a better people person than BB, and that could play out in a number of different ways when it comes to retaining players, and FA.
Regardless, we still need at least 1 promising OT to come out of the draft, but retaining Brown (providing the cost is reasonable given the production) would offer a far greater level of insurance and security than his removal. He was our best OT when healthy and dedicated to playing.
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Post by squishthefish on Jan 12, 2024 13:43:29 GMT -5
I see that Trent Brown gave a big seal of approval to Mayo being selected for Head Coach. One of the things that has always interested me in not just Football but life in general, is our vast differences in mentality and personality. Trent Brown never really fit into the BB way of coaching, and there was a lot of stress in the relationship and Browns time here was rife with highs and lows, largely depending upon what was going on in the locker room at the time and how he perceived he was being treated. Some people are like pieces of iron, throw then in the forge and pound on them and you can shape them into incredible things. Some break easily under that kind of treatment, and respond better to coddling and handholding. They can be no less great that way it should be noted. I'm finding myself wondering if the Trent Brown era isn't quite over yet with the addition of Mayo as head coach. He's certainly a better people person than BB, and that could play out in a number of different ways when it comes to retaining players, and FA. Regardless, we still need at least 1 promising OT to come out of the draft, but retaining Brown (providing the cost is reasonable given the production) would offer a far greater level of insurance and security than his removal. He was our best OT when healthy and dedicated to playing. Brown is dedicated to $ and that is all. It’s past the time to say goodbye to all the locker room malcontents and those who only play at a high level when they want to. The Trent browns and Mac’s and others could destroy the locker room of an inexperienced head coach quickly. |
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Post by carawaydj on Jan 12, 2024 13:46:25 GMT -5
No. No freaking way I want him. Even if I ignore evidence that he is a malcontent, he is injured too much. Can't rely on him. Time to move on. I've read some of his interviews and heard his perspective. I'm not willing to accept a player hitting free agency at face value. TB had one great year for us. Maybe if he could stay healthy he'd have another. He can't.
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Post by zenape on Jan 12, 2024 13:59:26 GMT -5
Well I don't know what Mayo's relationship is with him, how he feels about him as a person and a player, all I'm saying is, brace for the possibility. BB has turned plenty of malcontents and spun them into gold (he's also whiffed with a number of them too), and this could be one of Mayo's first attempts at trying the same. I'd like to think Mayo knows him better than we do, and what to expect out of him as well. As fans and people well outside the building, all we can do is rant about it, outside the building.
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Post by kjfitone on Jan 12, 2024 14:02:45 GMT -5
It would go a ways in filling their biggest need other than qb but he's hurt too much and doesn't seem dedicated at all.
I don't get some of these guys who have the opportunity to play in the NFL and don't appreciate or take it seriously.
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Post by mikeod on Jan 12, 2024 14:18:14 GMT -5
Regarding the injury frequency, I wonder if it relates to the point Zenape is making that Brown may respond better to Mayo than BB. Perhaps some of his absences from the lineup were less physical than attitude toward Belichick. Recall the blowup with Jake Bailey when he was suspended over disagreement whether he was available or not. Could Brown reclaim the capability he showed in 2018 under a different HC?
Maybe, but is the risk too great?
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Post by jri37 on Jan 12, 2024 14:23:41 GMT -5
Regarding the injury frequency, I wonder if it relates to the point Zenape is making that Brown may respond better to Mayo than BB. Perhaps some of his absences from the lineup were less physical than attitude toward Belichick. Recall the blowup with Jake Bailey when he was suspended over disagreement whether he was available or not. Could Brown reclaim the capability he showed in 2018 under a different HC? Maybe, but is the risk too great? IMHO Mayo doesn’t need the Trent Brown headache. |
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Post by prairiemike on Jan 12, 2024 21:18:21 GMT -5
If I'm flipping burgers for ten bucks an hour at Wendy's and my boss is an asshole, I quit and learn how to do something that isn't flipping burgers.
If I'm in the NFL making millions and my boss is an asshole, I work hard and show my next boss what I can do.
Unfortunately, what I think is meaningless. The NFL is becoming a players' league along the lines of the NBA. My guess is that -- as a businessman -- Kraft understands where the league is going and cares not even a little what I (or you) think.
Trent Brown will, very soon, become nobody. We will stop discussing him very soon. But the attitude he represents will come to dominate the league ... sooner than you think.
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Post by thejuice on Jan 12, 2024 21:21:13 GMT -5
I see that Trent Brown gave a big seal of approval to Mayo being selected for Head Coach. One of the things that has always interested me in not just Football but life in general, is our vast differences in mentality and personality. Trent Brown never really fit into the BB way of coaching, and there was a lot of stress in the relationship and Browns time here was rife with highs and lows, largely depending upon what was going on in the locker room at the time and how he perceived he was being treated. Some people are like pieces of iron, throw then in the forge and pound on them and you can shape them into incredible things. Some break easily under that kind of treatment, and respond better to coddling and handholding. They can be no less great that way it should be noted. I'm finding myself wondering if the Trent Brown era isn't quite over yet with the addition of Mayo as head coach. He's certainly a better people person than BB, and that could play out in a number of different ways when it comes to retaining players, and FA. Regardless, we still need at least 1 promising OT to come out of the draft, but retaining Brown (providing the cost is reasonable given the production) would offer a far greater level of insurance and security than his removal. He was our best OT when healthy and dedicated to playing. Brown is dedicated to $ and that is all. It’s past the time to say goodbye to all the locker room malcontents and those who only play at a high level when they want to. The Trent browns and Mac’s and others could destroy the locker room of an inexperienced head coach quickly. Bingo. this guy has to go. No better time than coming off a 4-13 season to get rid of these types of guys from any locker room. |
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Post by rkarp on Jan 13, 2024 7:51:00 GMT -5
not only Brown.
JC Jackson too.
talented players that have let off field issues get the better of them.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Jan 13, 2024 8:23:35 GMT -5
Trent Brown's can function in a locker room, when you have strong voices and/or personalities in place.
Where a team can get into trouble is when the Trent Brown's ARE the strong voice in place.
I think they have a leadership void in the locker room, and don't see it improving with the loss of Slater. So, this another area where I think Mayo can make strides with the team.
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Post by wazzu on Jan 13, 2024 8:39:59 GMT -5
Trent Brown's can function in a locker room, when you have strong voices and/or personalities in place. Where a team can get into trouble is when the Trent Brown's ARE the strong voice in place. I think they have a leadership void in the locker room, and don't see it improving with the loss of Slater. So, this another area where I think Mayo can make strides with the team. Agree. |
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Post by garytx on Jan 13, 2024 8:55:13 GMT -5
No doubt that Mayo will handle personnel differently. But Trent Brown needs to go. Mayo knows what he's inheriting so we'll see how he handles it.
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Post by agcsbill on Jan 13, 2024 10:15:47 GMT -5
I see that Trent Brown gave a big seal of approval to Mayo being selected for Head Coach. One of the things that has always interested me in not just Football but life in general, is our vast differences in mentality and personality. Trent Brown never really fit into the BB way of coaching, and there was a lot of stress in the relationship and Browns time here was rife with highs and lows, largely depending upon what was going on in the locker room at the time and how he perceived he was being treated. Some people are like pieces of iron, throw then in the forge and pound on them and you can shape them into incredible things. Some break easily under that kind of treatment, and respond better to coddling and handholding. They can be no less great that way it should be noted. I'm finding myself wondering if the Trent Brown era isn't quite over yet with the addition of Mayo as head coach. He's certainly a better people person than BB, and that could play out in a number of different ways when it comes to retaining players, and FA. Regardless, we still need at least 1 promising OT to come out of the draft, but retaining Brown (providing the cost is reasonable given the production) would offer a far greater level of insurance and security than his removal. He was our best OT when healthy and dedicated to playing. BB did not treat players differently or coddled them. Brown wanted to be coddled. Will Mayo be different, most likely yes. But the trap Mayo should not fall into is to start treating players differently. Who does he coddle or not coddle can get him into a lot of trouble. |
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