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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 22, 2024 15:08:38 GMT -5
DEN did not have to give up much.
Rd6 for ZW and a Rd7
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Post by philskiw on Apr 22, 2024 15:09:53 GMT -5
Hopefully that’s what Denver gets for taking him.
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Post by rkarp on Apr 22, 2024 15:11:42 GMT -5
I think Denver reads the tea leaves and realizes they may not get a swing at QB at #12 and they do not have enough ammo to move up.
Payton might be able to salvage Wilson
surprised he was not in on Mac
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Post by thejuice on Apr 22, 2024 15:17:27 GMT -5
i mean dont see the harm in taking a chance on a guy for what equates to a few million bucks (less actually) for 1 season and the swap of a 6th for a 7th. unlikely wilson amounts to anything, but this is one of those essentially zero risk, all reward type things
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 22, 2024 15:19:33 GMT -5
I think Denver reads the tea leaves and realizes they may not get a swing at QB at #12 and they do not have enough ammo to move up. Payton might be able to salvage Wilson surprised he was not in on Mac That's a good take. There is chatter now that ATL could be investigated and eventually be penalized for tampering (Cousins). IDK why, but people are now talking about ATL possibly going QB too. I cannot see a scenario where they would not have cousins for the season - found guilty or not. |
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Post by philskiw on Apr 22, 2024 15:22:29 GMT -5
They can’t blame this on BB.
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Post by thejuice on Apr 22, 2024 15:24:19 GMT -5
I think Denver reads the tea leaves and realizes they may not get a swing at QB at #12 and they do not have enough ammo to move up. Payton might be able to salvage Wilson surprised he was not in on Mac That's a good take. There is chatter now that ATL could be investigated and eventually be penalized for tampering (Cousins). IDK why, but people are now talking about ATL possibly going QB too. I cannot see a scenario where they would not have cousins for the season - found guilty or not. if the nfl is serious about it (and i think they did take away miamis first last year for the brady tampering right?) then that would be something if they took away pick 8 from atlanta this year... my guess... is theyd take their 2025 1st away instead... but honestly, if they are going to hit them at all hard, they really need to do it before the draft kicks off this week... but yeah as far as atlanta going qb this year, unless youre talking taking a chance on a guy on day 3 at some point, it makes no sense. cousins is their guy for the next few years, so why waste a high pick on a qb this season? |
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Post by wazzu on Apr 22, 2024 15:26:44 GMT -5
I highly doubt that Denver is expecting anything at all from Zach Wilson. But he at least gives him someone to put out there in camp, because they are in a pretty shitty position to get a quarterback without giving up a ton of assets to move up. This makes me laugh at the people who were chastising me for rooting for the tank during the season. If New England would’ve won a couple of more games, they would be in the same position as Denver. Good thing they tanked.
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Post by paulk on Apr 22, 2024 15:27:08 GMT -5
I'll guess that the New York Jets guaranteed Zach's contract, so if the Denver Broncos decide that Zach's services aren't worth his 2024 per Spotrac salary of $1.1 million, his roster bonus of $1.6 million or his void year guaranteed $22 million in 2025, then Denver should be free to kick Zach to the curb by August. Zach can then go back and get his cash off the Jets.
So long Zach, good luck making Denver's 2024 cutdown day roster and otherwise, happy second career!
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Post by TFB12 on Apr 22, 2024 15:32:14 GMT -5
I think Denver reads the tea leaves and realizes they may not get a swing at QB at #12 and they do not have enough ammo to move up. Payton might be able to salvage Wilson surprised he was not in on Mac I totally agree with everything you said there. |
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Post by thejuice on Apr 22, 2024 15:37:55 GMT -5
I'll guess that the New York Jets guaranteed Zach's contract, so if the Denver Broncos decide that Zach's services aren't worth his 2024 per Spotrac salary of $1.1 million, his roster bonus of $1.6 million or his void year guaranteed $22 million in 2025, then Denver should be free to kick Zach to the curb by August. Zach can then go back and get his cash off the Jets. So long Zach, good luck making Denver's 2024 cutdown day roster and otherwise, happy second career! pft reported that the 2 teams will be splitting the 5.5 mil in guaranteed money that he is owed this season |
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 22, 2024 16:10:18 GMT -5
Could this move mean NYJ might be another one of those teams considering to draft a QB with their top 10 pick?
AR is 40 yo, coming off an injury.
What are the chances that he is able to play the entire season?
What are the chances he plays well?
What are the chances that he retires before next season starts?
Backup Tyrod Taylor is 34 - not young either.
IMO JJM would make a really good understudy to AR.
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Post by arizonapat on Apr 22, 2024 16:17:07 GMT -5
I think Denver reads the tea leaves and realizes they may not get a swing at QB at #12 and they do not have enough ammo to move up. Payton might be able to salvage Wilson surprised he was not in on Mac Payton was in on Mac, but apparently he demanded a third round pick to take him. |
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Post by thejuice on Apr 22, 2024 16:21:41 GMT -5
Could this move mean NYJ might be another one of those teams considering to draft a QB with their top 10 pick? AR is 40 yo, coming off an injury. What are the chances that he is able to play the entire season? What are the chances he plays well? What are the chances that he retires before next season starts? Backup Tyrod Taylor is 34 - not young either. IMO JJM would make a really good understudy to AR. i would think its pretty likely that they draft a qb in this draft, but wouldnt expect it until day 3... they are clearly in win now mode with Arod there, so got to think they are going to go with someone they can count on contributing this year, which wouldnt be a rookie qb |
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Post by froglegs on Apr 22, 2024 16:46:58 GMT -5
I think Denver reads the tea leaves and realizes they may not get a swing at QB at #12 and they do not have enough ammo to move up. Payton might be able to salvage Wilson surprised he was not in on Mac Simply because Wilson has (or is supposed to have) a far higher ceiling than Mac Jones. |
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Post by philskiw on Apr 22, 2024 16:52:55 GMT -5
Creates a roster spot
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 22, 2024 17:28:09 GMT -5
I will upset a lot of people here with this prediction.
If DEN does not draft one of the top 6 QBs, ZW will make the most of his 2024 season and end up having a more successful career than Mac Jones.
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Post by jri37 on Apr 22, 2024 18:21:38 GMT -5
I think Denver reads the tea leaves and realizes they may not get a swing at QB at #12 and they do not have enough ammo to move up. Payton might be able to salvage Wilson surprised he was not in on Mac Simply because Wilson has (or is supposed to have) a far higher ceiling than Mac Jones. At a minimum Wilson has far better physical tools than Mac. |
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Post by paulk on Apr 22, 2024 19:16:37 GMT -5
I'll guess that the New York Jets guaranteed Zach's contract, so if the Denver Broncos decide that Zach's services aren't worth his 2024 per Spotrac salary of $1.1 million, his roster bonus of $1.6 million or his void year guaranteed $22 million in 2025, then Denver should be free to kick Zach to the curb by August. Zach can then go back and get his cash off the Jets. So long Zach, good luck making Denver's 2024 cutdown day roster and otherwise, happy second career! pft reported that the 2 teams will be splitting the 5.5 mil in guaranteed money that he is owed this season Now that makes sense, the Jets paying Wilson 2.7 mil to have him go play for Denver. The Jets have to play Denver this year. |
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 22, 2024 19:30:43 GMT -5
Everybody is looking for a QB, this is why you cannot trade down.
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Post by mthurl on Apr 23, 2024 3:04:28 GMT -5
Obviously a project and long stretch for success, but they did acquire a talented QB. But the kid is suck an asshat in so many ways, on and off the field. That’s a big part of the evaluation.
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Post by muzwell on Apr 23, 2024 6:30:15 GMT -5
4 out of 5 of the ‘21 draft class traded for day 3 picks. But, yeah let’s go Jayden and Drake and JJ… it’s a shot in the dark at best. Take Joe Alt.
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Post by michiganadam on Apr 23, 2024 6:33:20 GMT -5
Everybody is looking for a QB, this is why you cannot trade down. This is exactly why they do trade down IF...they don't think the QB available are THE MAN. A great year to setup a bidding war for a player that could end up being another mistake like 2021. Supply and demand. Much easier to get someone to overpay for an unknown quality product when there is multiple bidders. This is especially true if the team isn't 1 or 2 players away from contention. Is it worth another year added to rebuild if you can change 1 top 3 pick into potentially 3 top 10 picks? As I have always attested...if the player you love to base your franchise around is there when you are on the clock...you take them. If you are not sold...trade down!
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