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Post by backbay on Apr 24, 2024 7:41:54 GMT -5
Let's say New England picked Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3
Can NE entertain offers during the draft for MHJ after they've picked MHJ at #3?
Just curious.....
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Post by wazzu on Apr 24, 2024 7:46:04 GMT -5
I’m not sure how that would work since the drafted player isn’t even under contract yet. I guess they could theoretically trade his “rights”. Either way, that’s an extremely rare scenario in the NFL. Won’t happen.
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Post by backbay on Apr 24, 2024 7:50:28 GMT -5
I’m not sure how that would work since the drafted player isn’t even under contract yet. I guess they could theoretically trade his “rights”. Either way, that’s an extremely rare scenario in the NFL. Won’t happen. I didn't think so. It was a random thought for me this morning....lol 
Thanks for replying.
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 24, 2024 8:16:36 GMT -5
Let's say New England picked Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3
Can NE entertain offers during the draft for MHJ after they've picked MHJ at #3?
Just curious.....
Happens in the NBA draft all the time. Pre-arranged. You draft this guy, we draft this guy then we trade with each other same day. |
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Post by wazzu on Apr 24, 2024 8:24:29 GMT -5
Let's say New England picked Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3
Can NE entertain offers during the draft for MHJ after they've picked MHJ at #3?
Just curious.....
Happens in the NBA draft all the time. Pre-arranged. You draft this guy, we draft this guy then we trade with each other same day. If it happens in the nba, then the NFL should definitely not allow it. The NFL should do everything possible to distance itself from the nba. |
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Post by garytx on Apr 24, 2024 8:42:29 GMT -5
Let's say New England picked Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3
Can NE entertain offers during the draft for MHJ after they've picked MHJ at #3?
Just curious.....
Seems convoluted to me. Why? I don't know if it can be done anyway. Even if it could be done I don't see any advantage in it. |
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Post by pcm4 on Apr 24, 2024 9:14:37 GMT -5
The picked player is almost always less valuable than the pick unless its a QB (and even then it could hurt the value since not every team is going to have the QBs stacked the same way). Pats would be insane to pick MHJ (or any other player for that matter) with the intention of trading him.
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Post by muzwell on Apr 24, 2024 13:15:37 GMT -5
The Chargers drafted Eli Manning and traded him that day for Phillip Rivers who was drafted by the Giants. So yeah it could happen but I can’t think of another time it did happen.
EDIT: Forgot almost the same thing happened with Elway. But, it was a few days after the draft when he was traded.
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Post by backbay on Apr 24, 2024 15:18:43 GMT -5
Let's say New England picked Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3
Can NE entertain offers during the draft for MHJ after they've picked MHJ at #3?
Just curious.....
Seems convoluted to me. Why? I don't know if it can be done anyway. Even if it could be done I don't see any advantage in it. guess it depends on what team wants a "generational" player; like MHJ? |
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 24, 2024 15:34:21 GMT -5
The Chargers drafted Eli Manning and traded him that day for Phillip Rivers who was drafted by the Giants. So yeah it could happen but I can’t think of another time it did happen. EDIT: Forgot almost the same thing happened with Elway. But, it was a few days after the draft when he was traded. Both players pushed their way out the door by threatening to hold out. If the Patriots were going to trade out they would simply trade the pick. |
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Post by thejuice on Apr 24, 2024 16:15:27 GMT -5
Saw a post on Twitter within the last few hours (I’ll try and find it) that a giants beat guy is saying a possible trade of pats take maye at 3 then giants take JJ at 6 and trade him & picks to pats for maye…
Also that they be willing to move as many as 3 1sts to move up to get their guy (supposedly maye)
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Post by digger0862 on Apr 24, 2024 16:29:11 GMT -5
Saw a post on Twitter within the last few hours (I’ll try and find it) that a giants beat guy is saying a possible trade of pats take maye at 3 then giants take JJ at 6 and trade him & picks to pats for maye… Also that they be willing to move as many as 3 1sts to move up to get their guy (supposedly maye) By trading players instead of picks, this would protect the Patriots in the event that JJ is gone before pick 6 then the Patriots can just nix the trade and settle for Maye. |
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Post by thejuice on Apr 24, 2024 18:54:39 GMT -5
Saw a post on Twitter within the last few hours (I’ll try and find it) that a giants beat guy is saying a possible trade of pats take maye at 3 then giants take JJ at 6 and trade him & picks to pats for maye… Also that they be willing to move as many as 3 1sts to move up to get their guy (supposedly maye) By trading players instead of picks, this would protect the Patriots in the event that JJ is gone before pick 6 then the Patriots can just nix the trade and settle for Maye. Yup my guess is it’s smoke but agreed…. This would at least cover them that even if they covet JJ more than maye they at least end up with one of the two for sure if someone jumps in front of giants for jj |
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 24, 2024 19:12:15 GMT -5
By trading players instead of picks, this would protect the Patriots in the event that JJ is gone before pick 6 then the Patriots can just nix the trade and settle for Maye. Yup my guess is it’s smoke but agreed…. This would at least cover them that even if they covet JJ more than maye they at least end up with one of the two for sure if someone jumps in front of giants for jj Is 3 first rounders enough? |
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Post by thejuice on Apr 24, 2024 19:33:27 GMT -5
Yup my guess is it’s smoke but agreed…. This would at least cover them that even if they covet JJ more than maye they at least end up with one of the two for sure if someone jumps in front of giants for jj Is 3 first rounders enough? Enough for what? |
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 24, 2024 21:00:09 GMT -5
Is 3 first rounders enough? Enough for what? To make the trade. I would insist on their second rounder this year. You think JJ is better than mac jones? Idk |
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Post by garytx on Apr 25, 2024 7:54:48 GMT -5
Seems convoluted to me. Why? I don't know if it can be done anyway. Even if it could be done I don't see any advantage in it. guess it depends on what team wants a "generational" player; like MHJ? If a team wants said player why not just trade out of that third pick. If you have MHJ and are dealing with a team to trade him the other team holds all the cards in trade value. You offer the third pick and thus the Pats hold all the cards. You want him bad enough pay up buddy! |
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Post by backbay on Apr 25, 2024 8:15:15 GMT -5
guess it depends on what team wants a "generational" player; like MHJ? If a team wants said player why not just trade out of that third pick. If you have MHJ and are dealing with a team to trade him the other team holds all the cards in trade value. You offer the third pick and thus the Pats hold all the cards. You want him bad enough pay up buddy! I agree with you. Seems, that would be the usual route. The Patriots (and trade suiters) have only 10 minutes when the #3 pick clock starts. So, this was a what-if kind of scenario - to discuss what pros/negatives there would be.
which may be a segway to a related subject. Shouldn't Patriots pick the best player available at #3 or will they use the #3 pick base on needs of team - even if the QB remaining on board does not meet the Patriots' requirements as being "that guy"?
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Post by garytx on Apr 25, 2024 8:30:31 GMT -5
If a team wants said player why not just trade out of that third pick. If you have MHJ and are dealing with a team to trade him the other team holds all the cards in trade value. You offer the third pick and thus the Pats hold all the cards. You want him bad enough pay up buddy! I agree with you. Seems, that would be the usual route. The Patriots (and trade suiters) have only 10 minutes when the #3 pick clock starts. So, this was a what-if kind of scenario - to discuss what pros/negatives there would be.
which may be a segway to a related subject. Shouldn't Patriots pick the best player available at #3 or will they use the #3 pick base on needs of team - even if the QB remaining on board does not meet the Patriots' requirements as being "that guy"?
I see what you mean but this happens in every draft. QBs shoot up the board. Some have MHJ as the top draft prospect or at least #2. But with the QB position being so important they get looked at before a WR that will only see the ball about 10 times a game if that at times. It saddens me that the Pats will pass on a prospect like this but the offense as a whole is a car wreck. So many needs with QB being on everybody's mind draft day. You are on an island my friend! |
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Post by backbay on Apr 25, 2024 10:00:53 GMT -5
I agree with you. Seems, that would be the usual route. The Patriots (and trade suiters) have only 10 minutes when the #3 pick clock starts. So, this was a what-if kind of scenario - to discuss what pros/negatives there would be.
which may be a segway to a related subject. Shouldn't Patriots pick the best player available at #3 or will they use the #3 pick base on needs of team - even if the QB remaining on board does not meet the Patriots' requirements as being "that guy"?
I see what you mean but this happens in every draft. QBs shoot up the board. Some have MHJ as the top draft prospect or at least #2. But with the QB position being so important they get looked at before a WR that will only see the ball about 10 times a game if that at times. It saddens me that the Pats will pass on a prospect like this but the offense as a whole is a car wreck. So many needs with QB being on everybody's mind draft day. You are on an island my friend! I'm hoping they make a deal w/ the Giants for their #6, 2nd rd pick, 3rd rd pick, and 2025 first round pick. And take JJM, Penix, or Maye at #6; if available. Maybe none of these guys will be available by then....lol.
If not available, at #6 they should pick the best player available......an LT or WR?
Yeah, I'm on my own island all right. My wife and kids call me "special"......lol
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Post by thejuice on Apr 25, 2024 11:55:32 GMT -5
If a team wants said player why not just trade out of that third pick. If you have MHJ and are dealing with a team to trade him the other team holds all the cards in trade value. You offer the third pick and thus the Pats hold all the cards. You want him bad enough pay up buddy! I agree with you. Seems, that would be the usual route. The Patriots (and trade suiters) have only 10 minutes when the #3 pick clock starts. So, this was a what-if kind of scenario - to discuss what pros/negatives there would be.
which may be a segway to a related subject. Shouldn't Patriots pick the best player available at #3 or will they use the #3 pick base on needs of team - even if the QB remaining on board does not meet the Patriots' requirements as being "that guy"?
you should always take the best player available regardless of position at every pick... the one exception is if you have a big need at qb (the most important position in the game) and you value the best qb only a few spots behind the top guy on your board. qb trumps everything |
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