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Post by TrueChamp on Apr 25, 2024 13:16:42 GMT -5
Its not Draft day its MAYE DAY BABY!!! Lol you always been on the maye bandwagon. Closest thing to a Josh Allen in this draft, from a family of successful athletes! Yes please
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 25, 2024 13:21:16 GMT -5
Lol you always been on the maye bandwagon. Closest thing to a Josh Allen in this draft, from a family of successful athletes! Yes please I am hoping we draft him but man they need to get some talent in this draft at wideout.
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Post by salcon on Apr 25, 2024 13:24:08 GMT -5
I hope they trade with either NYG or MN. I don't trust either Maye or Daniels. I think JJ will be available at 6 and might be available at 11. They did F-all in FA, so they need more high draft picks and desperately need a LT. I would be just as happy with Penix at 11 as I think he is just as likely to shine at the next level. I think they will take stick at #3 and draft Maye, and we will struggle for a few years before drafting another QB. I can't believe they think that Chubaka Okorafor is the answer at LT for at least this season? WTF kind of FA signing was that? That's the best the collaboration could do with all that money to spend? Jeez.
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Apr 25, 2024 13:31:02 GMT -5
Curran's saying Maye is the pick
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 25, 2024 13:33:19 GMT -5
Curran's saying Maye is the pick What’s an offer they can’t refuse? Maybe four first rounders from the giants?
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Post by thejuice on Apr 25, 2024 13:37:46 GMT -5
I hope they trade with either NYG or MN. I don't trust either Maye or Daniels. I think JJ will be available at 6 and might be available at 11. They did F-all in FA, so they need more high draft picks and desperately need a LT. I would be just as happy with Penix at 11 as I think he is just as likely to shine at the next level. I think they will take stick at #3 and draft Maye, and we will struggle for a few years before drafting another QB. I can't believe they think that Chubaka Okorafor is the answer at LT for at least this season? WTF kind of FA signing was that? That's the best the collaboration could do with all that money to spend? Jeez. to this point of the offseason, their approach to the massive holes at left tackle has been the same as last year... maybe the collaboration station was in charge last year already?
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Post by thejuice on Apr 25, 2024 13:38:34 GMT -5
Curran's saying Maye is the pick What’s an offer they can’t refuse? Maybe four first rounders from the giants? i imagine that would qualify
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Apr 25, 2024 13:39:20 GMT -5
Curran's saying Maye is the pick What’s an offer they can’t refuse? Maybe four first rounders from the giants? Great question. If I'm the Pats I'm only accepting 11, 23, 2025 and 2026 1sts plus a player from Minnesota (Darrisaw preferably) or 6, 47, 70 and next years 1st from the Giants.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 25, 2024 13:41:17 GMT -5
What’s an offer they can’t refuse? Maybe four first rounders from the giants? Great question. If I'm the Pats I'm only accepting 11, 23, 2025 and 2026 1sts plus a player from Minnesota (Darrisaw preferably) or 6, 47, 70 and next years 1st from the Giants. I feel that’s too little from the giants. I want more than one future first rounder.
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Post by thejuice on Apr 25, 2024 13:42:08 GMT -5
What’s an offer they can’t refuse? Maybe four first rounders from the giants? Great question. If I'm the Pats I'm only accepting 11, 23, 2025 and 2026 1sts plus a player from Minnesota (Darrisaw preferably) or 6, 47, 70 and next years 1st from the Giants. and im accepting neither of those if i am convicted that one of daniels or maye or mccarthy is the guy.
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Apr 25, 2024 13:44:23 GMT -5
Great question. If I'm the Pats I'm only accepting 11, 23, 2025 and 2026 1sts plus a player from Minnesota (Darrisaw preferably) or 6, 47, 70 and next years 1st from the Giants. and im accepting neither of those if i am convicted that one of daniels or maye or mccarthy is the guy. Daniels or Maye I agree. McCarthy could be had at 6. Unless Minnesota trades up to 4 or 5, but it wouldn't cost much at all to move up 1-2 spots so you could probably keep the future Giants 1st and their 2nd this year and still get McCarthy. Or just stay at 6 cause like I said there's a fairly decent chance he'll be available there. 11 there's almost no shot.
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Post by paulk on Apr 25, 2024 13:46:04 GMT -5
The Pats have had a long history of mainly trading down in the first round between the year 2000 and perhaps 2015, also the team kept winning, earning a ticket to the AFC Championship Game and so on. Last year the team traded out of pick #14 and everybody was quite happy with that particular result by next September. So, I'll be happy enough if Eliot Wolf trades out of #3 to Denver or to Minnesota and may the high bidder win. It's a serious seller's market. If Wolf doesn't trade and instead grabs a QB, it means he's really sold on that particular guy.
The Patriots have always invested heavily in their scouting organization. I don't worry about them drafting another Duron Harmon, a complete whodat, because Duron Harmon turned out well (7 years here) for a third rounder (#91).
No QB or a mediocre QB? Hmmmm.... Will there be any NFL quarterbacks just hanging around and available after Thanksgiving for a playoff run? What team besides the Patriots might have enough leftover cap money to hire that quarterback? Is he already comfortable with the Patriots style of play? Sign here, and here, and here. Now tell me true, wouldn't that make you pretty happy?
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 25, 2024 13:51:57 GMT -5
The Pats have had a long history of mainly trading down in the first round between the year 2000 and perhaps 2015, also the team kept winning, earning a ticket to the AFC Championship Game and so on. Last year the team traded out of pick #14 and everybody was quite happy with that particular result by next September. So, I'll be happy enough if Eliot Wolf trades out of #3 to Denver or to Minnesota and may the high bidder win. It's a serious seller's market. If Wolf doesn't trade and instead grabs a QB, it means he's really sold on that particular guy. The Patriots have always invested heavily in their scouting organization. I don't worry about them drafting another Duron Harmon, a complete whodat, because Duron Harmon turned out well (7 years here) for a third rounder (#91). No QB or a mediocre QB? Hmmmm.... Will there be any NFL quarterbacks just hanging around and available after Thanksgiving for a playoff run? What team besides the Patriots might have enough leftover cap money to hire that quarterback? Is he already comfortable with the Patriots style of play? Sign here, and here, and here. Now tell me true, wouldn't that make you pretty happy? I am hoping wolf is not the only one involved making this decision. I still have doubts with him as a Gm.
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Post by salcon on Apr 25, 2024 13:55:47 GMT -5
I'm assuming and correct me if I'm wrong that at least four of the top QB's will go in the top 10. Which one or ones are going to make it as a franchise QB? We can only guess. The team picking has more info and knowledge than us or the media and may/will get the pick wrong. Not all four of five of the top QB's are going to make it. Two would be lucky.
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Post by texaspat on Apr 25, 2024 13:55:54 GMT -5
ESPN’s Dan Graziano and Jeremy Fowler write the Patriots are considering all options with the No. 3 pick but the sense is ownership really wants to come out of this draft with a quarterback, and that could impact how far they’d be willing to drop. Fowler says his sense after talking to sources is the Patriots have LSU QB Jayden Daniels ahead of North Carolina QB Drake Maye, who’s ahead of Michigan QB J.J. McCarthy on New England’s board. Graziano adds the Patriots have done a lot of homework on Washington QB Michael Penix Jr. and seem to like him as a fallback if they trade down, not as an option at No. 3. Fowler mentions a source pointed out not to discount owner Robert Kraft‘s potential affinity for McCarthy given the success of the last quarterback they had from Michigan. As far as the Patriots’ plans at the top of the second round, the two note receiver should be a high priority for the team. Albert Breer confirms the Patriots will listen to trade offers until they’re on the clock at No. 3. However, Breer says the likelihood is New England stays where they are and takes a quarterback. Charles Robinson mentions the Patriots are open to trading No. 3 overall, but the cost will be high, as New England could use a young quarterback of their own. Jonathan Jones of CBS Sports says he’s yet to speak with someone who “believes strongly Maye will be the Patriots’ pick.” However, Jones says most appear to be assuming Maye will go No. 3 overall. Jones adds that it “would take a massive offer” for the Patriots to trade down. The Athletic’s Dianna Russini explains a previous tweet about ownership being more involved, specifically Patriots president Jonathan Kraft. A longtime league executive told her Patriots ownership is more involved and the team has yet to give the GM title to director of scouting Eliot Wolf, though he is leading the front office. The source added things have shifted to a more collaborative process overseen by Kraft, with the football ops being allowed to make final calls while keeping a constant line of communication with the Krafts. RESPONSE: God help us. Has Kraft transitioned into Jerrah Jones?
She also notes the Patriots haven’t had a real firm offer for the No. 3 pick yet and at this point look like they’re on a trajectory to stay and pick. However, if they do trade down, Russini expects them to move back up for a quarterback. The Athletic’s Jeff Howe writes the Patriots feel like the landing spot for Maye. Some executives have made the case for McCarthy as the pick, but that would be a surprise, and one coach told Howe: “I don’t think Eliot wants to make too many surprises [in his first draft].” Chad Graff and Russini, writing for the Athletic, say it’s come into focus in recent days how high the Patriots are on Maye as a textbook scheme fit for the offense they want to run. He’s got terrific physical talent and the team leadership loves his mental makeup and potential as well. The two say it feels right now that if Maye is available, the Patriots will hang up the phone and turn in the pick. However, if Maye goes No. 2 overall, the Patriots think that could spark a bidding war between the Vikings and Raiders for Daniels, resulting in an offer New England can’t turn down. In that scenario, Graff and Russini write the Patriots would trade down, then look to come back up for McCarthy who they also see as being worth a top-ten pick. On Day 2, Graff and Russini explain the plan is to try and get a starting left tackle, someone athletic like BYU’s Kingsley Suamataia, Houston’s Patrick Paul or Washington’s Roger Rosengarten, and a starting outside receiver. They point out while it’s a strong receiver class, it’s thinner when filtered to just “X-receiver” types. Arizona TE Tanner McLachlan had an official 30 visit with the Patriots. www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/draft-rumors-drake-maye-j-j-mccarthy-bills-dolphins-jets-patriots/ar-AA1nBMkt?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=52e1fa77f70b4fd4d1e31a2f41411721&ei=20
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Post by backbay on Apr 25, 2024 14:16:25 GMT -5
For me, it's pretty simple. They're devoid of the most important position in pro sports. One where if you don't have a good/great/elite one, your season is essentially over before it starts, and you have little chance of consistently competing for the playoffs and championships. They also have a relatively rare opportunity to draft high, and take one of the better prospects in the draft... so, go get your fvcken franchise quarterback! Take any of the below, and I'll be happy. I've listed them in order of preference, but all four will excite me, as each brings something exciting to the table, from athleticism, to arm talent, to leadership, to winning, to upside. 1. JJ McCarthy 2. Jayden Daniels 3. Michael Penix Jr. 4. Drake Maye Note: Yes, if they can move back, acquire additional capital and players, and still land one of those four, I view it as best case scenario. I would be fine with any of these QBs. I have a slightly different order of preference, not to be confused with the order in which they will be drafted 1. JJ McCarthy 2. Drake Maye 3. Michael Penix Jr. 4. Jayden Daniels
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Post by texaspat on Apr 25, 2024 14:21:43 GMT -5
For me, it's pretty simple. They're devoid of the most important position in pro sports. One where if you don't have a good/great/elite one, your season is essentially over before it starts, and you have little chance of consistently competing for the playoffs and championships. They also have a relatively rare opportunity to draft high, and take one of the better prospects in the draft... so, go get your fvcken franchise quarterback! Take any of the below, and I'll be happy. I've listed them in order of preference, but all four will excite me, as each brings something exciting to the table, from athleticism, to arm talent, to leadership, to winning, to upside. 1. JJ McCarthy 2. Jayden Daniels 3. Michael Penix Jr. 4. Drake Maye Note: Yes, if they can move back, acquire additional capital and players, and still land one of those four, I view it as best case scenario. I would be fine with any of these QBs. I have a slightly different order of preference, not to be confused with the order in which they will be drafted 1. JJ McCarthy 2. Drake Maye 3. Michael Penix Jr. 4. Jayden Daniels Why McCarthy, who is 6'2", 205lbs, with small hands, relatively speaking? My order is Daniels, Maye, Penix, and McCarthy. I would put McCarthy over Penix, except for the fact that so many folks have McCarthy going as high as 4th overall. I see him as a top 20 pick.
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Post by thejuice on Apr 25, 2024 14:22:33 GMT -5
and im accepting neither of those if i am convicted that one of daniels or maye or mccarthy is the guy. Daniels or Maye I agree. McCarthy could be had at 6. Unless Minnesota trades up to 4 or 5, but it wouldn't cost much at all to move up 1-2 spots so you could probably keep the future Giants 1st and their 2nd this year and still get McCarthy. Or just stay at 6 cause like I said there's a fairly decent chance he'll be available there. 11 there's almost no shot. if you think any of those guys are worthy of taking at 3, then just take them at 3, dont get cute and trade down to 6, risking the chance you miss out on them all. chances are, if you think they are worthy of going 3 or 6, then so do other teams and they could trade up in front of you.
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Apr 25, 2024 14:22:52 GMT -5
I think I saw somewhere that our pick should be on the clock around 8:18, in case anyone needed to time out their bathroom breaks lol
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 25, 2024 14:28:06 GMT -5
I would be fine with any of these QBs. I have a slightly different order of preference, not to be confused with the order in which they will be drafted 1. JJ McCarthy 2. Drake Maye 3. Michael Penix Jr. 4. Jayden Daniels Why McCarthy, who is 6'2", 205lbs, with small hands, relatively speaking? My order is Daniels, Maye, Penix, and McCarthy. I would put McCarthy over Penix, except for the fact that so many folks have McCarthy going as high as 4th overall. I see him as a top 20 pick. He weights more than 205. He was 219 at the combine. He has 9 inch hands but didn’t he play in cold weather at michigan? His hand size same as burrow.
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Post by texaspat on Apr 25, 2024 14:29:16 GMT -5
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Post by texaspat on Apr 25, 2024 14:32:51 GMT -5
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Post by froglegs on Apr 25, 2024 14:40:56 GMT -5
I don't care if they trade up, down or diagonal but it must be a QB
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 25, 2024 14:45:40 GMT -5
The only way they draft JJ is with them trading with the giants and the giants giving them a massive trade offer.
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Post by bostonsportsfan111 on Apr 25, 2024 14:45:51 GMT -5
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