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Post by freediro on May 6, 2024 11:22:18 GMT -5
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Post by mthurl on May 7, 2024 3:55:50 GMT -5
I think him having a good support system around him (his family, his bothers) will do nothing but help him. I like at the end if the article where I think it was Peyton Manning said the only way to improve and learn is to play. I think he’ll play some next season despite needing work on a few things simply because it is hard to improve on your footwork and other things when you’re not actually playing. Plus, you won’t know exactly what you are and what you really need to I love unless it’s tested on the field. I’m not saying throw him to the wolves, but I am saying he’ll need to play some…ideally last 5-6 weeks of the season.
I still remember Peyton Mannings first year, and all those picks he threw, going 3-13…but he grew from there. You could see the potential. And he just made a huge jump from year to year two, I hope Maye can do something similar.
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Post by backbay on May 7, 2024 5:12:52 GMT -5
thanks for posting
below gives us hope. It seems Maye doesn't quite have the same amount of experience vs. Daniels, Nix, Williams, McCarthy, Penix in terms of games played. This makes the range of risk/reward to be much wider?
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Post by rkarp on May 7, 2024 6:35:16 GMT -5
I think him having a good support system around him (his family, his bothers) will do nothing but help him. I like at the end if the article where I think it was Peyton Manning said the only way to improve and learn is to play. I think he’ll play some next season despite needing work on a few things simply because it is hard to improve on your footwork and other things when you’re not actually playing. Plus, you won’t know exactly what you are and what you really need to I love unless it’s tested on the field. I’m not saying throw him to the wolves, but I am saying he’ll need to play some…ideally last 5-6 weeks of the season. I still remember Peyton Mannings first year, and all those picks he threw, going 3-13…but he grew from there. You could see the potential. And he just made a huge jump from year to year two, I hope Maye can do something similar. if there is a silent acknowledgement that this is a process that will take 2, maybe 3 seasons, and Maye is worth that wait for the final version, why not move some of the players that do not fit into than plan/timeline? whats the point of playing/paying Judon, when Jennings and Uche should be growing same as Maye? whats the point of paying/playing Wise when White should be playing/growing? can some of these guys bring back a day 2 or 3 draft pick that will be peaking along with Maye? |
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Post by muzwell on May 7, 2024 7:08:12 GMT -5
I think him having a good support system around him (his family, his bothers) will do nothing but help him. I like at the end if the article where I think it was Peyton Manning said the only way to improve and learn is to play. I think he’ll play some next season despite needing work on a few things simply because it is hard to improve on your footwork and other things when you’re not actually playing. Plus, you won’t know exactly what you are and what you really need to I love unless it’s tested on the field. I’m not saying throw him to the wolves, but I am saying he’ll need to play some…ideally last 5-6 weeks of the season. I still remember Peyton Mannings first year, and all those picks he threw, going 3-13…but he grew from there. You could see the potential. And he just made a huge jump from year to year two, I hope Maye can do something similar. if there is a silent acknowledgement that this is a process that will take 2, maybe 3 seasons, and Maye is worth that wait for the final version, why not move some of the players that do not fit into than plan/timeline? whats the point of playing/paying Judon, when Jennings and Uche should be growing same as Maye? whats the point of paying/playing Wise when White should be playing/growing? can some of these guys bring back a day 2 or 3 draft pick that will be peaking along with Maye? This makes sense. But they still have to sell tickets. |
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Post by CWTB on May 7, 2024 7:12:17 GMT -5
Bill Walsh worked with Joe Montana for 2 years to get his footwork right.
That was Under Center Offense.
Had QB more experience, Steve DeBerg, but hated his foot work.
It's not as easy as you think. Under Center doing Play action.
LOT of work.
Thats why everybody does shotgun.
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Post by CWTB on May 7, 2024 7:46:29 GMT -5
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Post by jri37 on May 7, 2024 8:18:37 GMT -5
I think him having a good support system around him (his family, his bothers) will do nothing but help him. I like at the end if the article where I think it was Peyton Manning said the only way to improve and learn is to play. I think he’ll play some next season despite needing work on a few things simply because it is hard to improve on your footwork and other things when you’re not actually playing. Plus, you won’t know exactly what you are and what you really need to I love unless it’s tested on the field. I’m not saying throw him to the wolves, but I am saying he’ll need to play some…ideally last 5-6 weeks of the season. I still remember Peyton Mannings first year, and all those picks he threw, going 3-13…but he grew from there. You could see the potential. And he just made a huge jump from year to year two, I hope Maye can do something similar. if there is a silent acknowledgement that this is a process that will take 2, maybe 3 seasons, and Maye is worth that wait for the final version, why not move some of the players that do not fit into than plan/timeline? whats the point of playing/paying Judon, when Jennings and Uche should be growing same as Maye? whats the point of paying/playing Wise when White should be playing/growing? can some of these guys bring back a day 2 or 3 draft pick that will be peaking along with Maye? There is no Judon in front of Maye. Maye is the 3rd pick in the draft not the 43rd. |
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Post by rkarp on May 7, 2024 9:08:03 GMT -5
if there is a silent acknowledgement that this is a process that will take 2, maybe 3 seasons, and Maye is worth that wait for the final version, why not move some of the players that do not fit into than plan/timeline? whats the point of playing/paying Judon, when Jennings and Uche should be growing same as Maye? whats the point of paying/playing Wise when White should be playing/growing? can some of these guys bring back a day 2 or 3 draft pick that will be peaking along with Maye? There is no Judon in front of Maye. Maye is the 3rd pick in the draft not the 43rd. you have been advocating playing Maye regardless of his readiness because of his draft position. so why not play WHite, Uche, Jennings ahead of Wise and Judon? why not play J ANdrews in front of D Andrews? they will only get better with more snaps, right? |
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Post by freediro on May 7, 2024 9:28:55 GMT -5
thanks for posting below gives us hope. It seems Maye doesn't quite have the same amount of experience vs. Daniels, Nix, Williams, McCarthy, Penix in terms of games played. This makes the range of risk/reward to be much wider? yeah, I like reading they also. Obviously the risk is the you need to develop him to reach a ceiling higher than those other guys. As you said it’s a wider range of outcomes, but it’s the NFL we’ve seen guaranteed studs fail and nobody’s excel, it’s gonna be up to Maye more than anyone else to be great. |
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Post by freediro on May 7, 2024 9:34:03 GMT -5
I think him having a good support system around him (his family, his bothers) will do nothing but help him. I like at the end if the article where I think it was Peyton Manning said the only way to improve and learn is to play. I think he’ll play some next season despite needing work on a few things simply because it is hard to improve on your footwork and other things when you’re not actually playing. Plus, you won’t know exactly what you are and what you really need to I love unless it’s tested on the field. I’m not saying throw him to the wolves, but I am saying he’ll need to play some…ideally last 5-6 weeks of the season. I still remember Peyton Mannings first year, and all those picks he threw, going 3-13…but he grew from there. You could see the potential. And he just made a huge jump from year to year two, I hope Maye can do something similar. if there is a silent acknowledgement that this is a process that will take 2, maybe 3 seasons, and Maye is worth that wait for the final version, why not move some of the players that do not fit into than plan/timeline? whats the point of playing/paying Judon, when Jennings and Uche should be growing same as Maye? whats the point of paying/playing Wise when White should be playing/growing? can some of these guys bring back a day 2 or 3 draft pick that will be peaking along with Maye? huh?…you play the defensive guys as needed on defense and the offensive guys on offense as needed. I feel like I kinda get what you are trying to say, but I think you’re convoluting 2 separate things into 1. This defense as is, is a QBs friend. Keep the score low, keep the other teams offense off the field and their defense on the field. I personally think we shouldn't be wasting a very good defense on a bridge QB and borderline mediocre play. Start Maye week 1 if he looks even 25% less ready than Brissett if the talent is obviously outshining Jacoby. Kid needs the real time reps, only caveat is if the o-line is just gonna get him killed, then it’s not worth the risk. |
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Post by jri37 on May 7, 2024 9:41:51 GMT -5
There is no Judon in front of Maye. Maye is the 3rd pick in the draft not the 43rd. you have been advocating playing Maye regardless of his readiness because of his draft position. so why not play WHite, Uche, Jennings ahead of Wise and Judon? why not play J ANdrews in front of D Andrews? they will only get better with more snaps, right? They aren't your franchise marquee player that was picked 3rd OVERALL. This is the guy, the face of the franchise. He wasn't picked 43rd. |
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Post by freediro on May 7, 2024 10:49:43 GMT -5
Seems like everyone around the league knows what’s up with this “hiring process”
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Post by zenape on May 7, 2024 12:19:16 GMT -5
I think it's possible to win in the same manner with Maye that we did with Brady his first year. Great defense, dependable supporting cast, smart scheme and play. Now I certainly don't expect the same results, but this year can most certainly be a good and respectable year. All the more reason to keep better players in the starting positions rather than setting an eye for the future.
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Post by freediro on May 7, 2024 12:52:05 GMT -5
I think it's possible to win in the same manner with Maye that we did with Brady his first year. Great defense, dependable supporting cast, smart scheme and play. Now I certainly don't expect the same results, but this year can most certainly be a good and respectable year. All the more reason to keep better players in the starting positions rather than setting an eye for the future. agreed, obviously Brady had the one year under his belt first and his experience in college, especially big playoff games is slightly different than Maye. However, Maye had his own things to deal with and overcome that can give him some experience at the NFL level. |
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Post by freediro on May 7, 2024 12:58:44 GMT -5
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Post by freediro on May 7, 2024 13:00:28 GMT -5
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Post by freediro on May 7, 2024 17:42:55 GMT -5
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Post by mthurl on May 7, 2024 18:49:39 GMT -5
I think him having a good support system around him (his family, his bothers) will do nothing but help him. I like at the end if the article where I think it was Peyton Manning said the only way to improve and learn is to play. I think he’ll play some next season despite needing work on a few things simply because it is hard to improve on your footwork and other things when you’re not actually playing. Plus, you won’t know exactly what you are and what you really need to I love unless it’s tested on the field. I’m not saying throw him to the wolves, but I am saying he’ll need to play some…ideally last 5-6 weeks of the season. I still remember Peyton Mannings first year, and all those picks he threw, going 3-13…but he grew from there. You could see the potential. And he just made a huge jump from year to year two, I hope Maye can do something similar. if there is a silent acknowledgement that this is a process that will take 2, maybe 3 seasons, and Maye is worth that wait for the final version, why not move some of the players that do not fit into than plan/timeline? whats the point of playing/paying Judon, when Jennings and Uche should be growing same as Maye? whats the point of paying/playing Wise when White should be playing/growing? can some of these guys bring back a day 2 or 3 draft pick that will be peaking along with Maye? I understand the temptation to try to time when development is complete, and team is built. I just don’t think it’s easy…it’s like timing the market, it rarely works. Their job is to build a good team every year, it obviously won’t always look that way but I think if this kid works out, things will look a lot better and the team will be a lot easier to build and sustain. And people will become rich and famous because of it, just look at Brady and all the people that got rich and famous off him. Everyone was a genius when Brady was here, now they’re all fired and out of the league. |
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Post by backbay on May 7, 2024 19:11:29 GMT -5
I think him having a good support system around him (his family, his bothers) will do nothing but help him. I like at the end if the article where I think it was Peyton Manning said the only way to improve and learn is to play. I think he’ll play some next season despite needing work on a few things simply because it is hard to improve on your footwork and other things when you’re not actually playing. Plus, you won’t know exactly what you are and what you really need to I love unless it’s tested on the field. I’m not saying throw him to the wolves, but I am saying he’ll need to play some…ideally last 5-6 weeks of the season. I still remember Peyton Mannings first year, and all those picks he threw, going 3-13…but he grew from there. You could see the potential. And he just made a huge jump from year to year two, I hope Maye can do something similar. if there is a silent acknowledgement that this is a process that will take 2, maybe 3 seasons, and Maye is worth that wait for the final version, why not move some of the players that do not fit into than plan/timeline? whats the point of playing/paying Judon, when Jennings and Uche should be growing same as Maye? whats the point of paying/playing Wise when White should be playing/growing? can some of these guys bring back a day 2 or 3 draft pick that will be peaking along with Maye? I think Maye already said that they are committed to developing younger players. I'm assuming that mean last year's rookies will get more play this year... |
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Post by rkarp on May 8, 2024 6:58:00 GMT -5
if there is a silent acknowledgement that this is a process that will take 2, maybe 3 seasons, and Maye is worth that wait for the final version, why not move some of the players that do not fit into than plan/timeline? whats the point of playing/paying Judon, when Jennings and Uche should be growing same as Maye? whats the point of paying/playing Wise when White should be playing/growing? can some of these guys bring back a day 2 or 3 draft pick that will be peaking along with Maye? I understand the temptation to try to time when development is complete, and team is built. I just don’t think it’s easy…it’s like timing the market, it rarely works. Their job is to build a good team every year, it obviously won’t always look that way but I think if this kid works out, things will look a lot better and the team will be a lot easier to build and sustain. And people will become rich and famous because of it, just look at Brady and all the people that got rich and famous off him. Everyone was a genius when Brady was here, now they’re all fired and out of the league. I am not talking about timing a players arrival. but if a guy isn't even prepared to play yet, and is 8-25 games away from being ready, the roster build should play out accordingly. mainly it has with players coming in. shorter contracts roster clearly is getting younger another off season next year dealing with a lot of free agents and roster turn over. |
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