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Post by Shelly on Oct 10, 2017 15:27:36 GMT -5
I truly HATE that show. First of all, I find it very, very stupid. Secondly, I don't find it in the least funny. I am sorry to say that I suffered through it three times because my son loves it and I was at his house. Worst of all, I hate that the character is named Sheldon because of the way he his portrayed. The only good thing about that show is the beautiful babe in it -- and I don't mean Sheldon's girlfriend either.  Do, rkarp, this was not sarcasm. (Just want to be sure you got it.) see, that's sarcasm. even you have to admit you miss 50% of the sarcasm on the board. I mean, missing sarcasm and correcting people (and pissing them off), that's your "thing" on this forum - Yes, my parenthetical statement was sarcasm. I did that because you unnecessarily singled me out in this thread and you pissed me off by doing that. Everything preceding that parenthetical remark was not sarcasm.
- No, I don't admit any such thing (50%). In fact, quite the opposite. I have generally detected sarcasm where others on this board failed to see it. There was one post by portfolio1 that I couldn't readily determine whether or not he was being sarcastic, so I answered it in a straightforward manner. Feel free to point out other instances, in the past or in the future.
- I haven't "corrected" anyone in a very long time. If they are "pissed", so be it. Some of those posters have long since been added to my ignore list. (Usually these are the far-far-out-right-wing posters, so no big loss -- if any at all)
So, if you want to continue down this path that you started, go ahead. I can, and will, feed it right back. I prefer not to, but that is your choice. You started this exchange. It is up to you to end it if you want to. If not, then so be it.
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Post by rkarp on Oct 10, 2017 15:31:44 GMT -5
see, that's sarcasm. even you have to admit you miss 50% of the sarcasm on the board. I mean, missing sarcasm and correcting people (and pissing them off), that's your "thing" on this forum - Yes, my parenthetical statement was sarcasm. I did that because you unnecessarily singled me out in this thread and you pissed me off by doing that. Everything preceding that parenthetical remark was not sarcasm.
- No, I don't admit any such thing (50%). In fact, quite the opposite. I have generally detected sarcasm where others on this board failed to see it. There was one post by portfolio1 that I couldn't readily determine whether or not he was being sarcastic, so I answered it in a straightforward manner. Feel free to point out other instances, in the past or in the future.
- I haven't "corrected" anyone in a very long time. If they are "pissed", so be it. Some of those posters have long since been added to my ignore list. (Usually these are the far-far-out-right-wing posters, so no big loss -- if any at all)
So, if you want to continue down this path that you started, go ahead. I can, and will, feed it right back. I prefer not to, but that is your choice. You started this exchange. It is up to you to end it if you want to. If not, then so be it.
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Post by Examiner on Oct 10, 2017 15:43:00 GMT -5
The GOAT doesn't need "practice".
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Post by Shelly on Oct 10, 2017 15:54:29 GMT -5
The GOAT doesn't need "practice". Brady doesn't throw the ball to himself. The practice is to perfect the timing and routes with his receivers. So, the GOAT does need practice. |
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Post by texaspat on Oct 10, 2017 15:55:02 GMT -5
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Post by pezz4pats on Oct 10, 2017 16:26:57 GMT -5
Ya think? That line isn't offensive it's OFFENSIVE and JG wouldn't last two games with them |
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Post by mthurl on Oct 10, 2017 16:40:11 GMT -5
Tough as nails, he'll play even if he shouldn't. Once in a lifetime talent, too bad he's getting killed behind that horrendous line.
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Post by texaspat on Oct 10, 2017 17:05:59 GMT -5
Tough as nails, he'll play even if he shouldn't. Once in a lifetime talent, too bad he's getting killed behind that horrendous line. He won't last the season if the hits on him keep coming the way that they have. |
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Post by kjfitone on Oct 10, 2017 17:21:19 GMT -5
How did the o line get so bad? It's basically the same personnel as last year and they were decent then. Is this the worst unit in the NFL? Good thing Brady makes quick and gets rid of the ball faster than any other qb.
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Post by croc on Oct 10, 2017 17:22:32 GMT -5
Tough as nails, he'll play even if he shouldn't. Once in a lifetime talent, too bad he's getting killed behind that horrendous line. He won't last the season if the hits on him keep coming the way that they have. Solder and Cannon haven't been healthy by several insider accounts. They've had 10 more days. Finger's crossed Dante can work his magic. Brady has been getting the ball out at an avg of 2.7 seconds as opposed to the low 2's. A lot of that is because of Edelman being out, DA missing time and Gronk either being out or not being Gronk. DA and Gronk should be in uni on Sunday. A part of that has been Brady holding it longer for longer plays. That's on Brady going for big plays or getting it out quick. |
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Post by kjfitone on Oct 10, 2017 17:28:20 GMT -5
He won't last the season if the hits on him keep coming the way that they have. Solder and Cannon haven't been healthy by several insider accounts. They've had 10 more days. Finger's crossed Dante can work his magic. Brady has been getting the ball out at an avg of 2.7 seconds as opposed to the low 2's. A lot of that is because of Edelman being out, DA missing time and Gronk either being out or not being Gronk. DA and Gronk should be in uni on Sunday. A part of that has been Brady holding it longer for longer plays. That's on Brady going for big plays or getting it out quick. Good points there. Maybe Josh can adjust the play calling some or find ways to get the ball out quicker. They're not going to get better players so they'd better make adjustments. |
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Post by texaspat on Oct 10, 2017 17:34:04 GMT -5
Solder and Cannon haven't been healthy by several insider accounts. They've had 10 more days. Finger's crossed Dante can work his magic. Brady has been getting the ball out at an avg of 2.7 seconds as opposed to the low 2's. A lot of that is because of Edelman being out, DA missing time and Gronk either being out or not being Gronk. DA and Gronk should be in uni on Sunday. A part of that has been Brady holding it longer for longer plays. That's on Brady going for big plays or getting it out quick. Good points there. Maybe Josh can adjust the play calling some or find ways to get the ball out quicker. They're not going to get better players so they'd better make adjustments. Help could be on the way, one Burkhead gets healthy. He could take over in the slot...and he and JKames White coming out of the backfield could reek havoc. |
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 10, 2017 17:36:24 GMT -5
How did the o line get so bad? It's basically the same personnel as last year and they were decent then. Is this the worst unit in the NFL? Good thing Brady makes quick and gets rid of the ball faster than any other qb. You nearly answered your own question. He isn't getting rid of the ball as quick as last year for two reasons: 1. He can't. You need someone on the other end of the pass to also get open quick. Edelman was that guy. Welker was that guy before him. Danny Hands can do it but they aren't using him as much as they used Edelman and Welker for obvious reasons. 2. They are throwing a little deeper and this take a little more time to develop. This is not to say that they aren't missing assignments or playing bad technique too. They are. That's only part of the problem though. As of right now there really aren't more than a few players on the team who are playing as good as last year. There were some stats out a couple weeks ago but I'm waiting to see updated numbers comparing Brady's time to throw this year with last year. |
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 10, 2017 17:42:01 GMT -5
He won't last the season if the hits on him keep coming the way that they have. Solder and Cannon haven't been healthy by several insider accounts. They've had 10 more days. Finger's crossed Dante can work his magic. Brady has been getting the ball out at an avg of 2.7 seconds as opposed to the low 2's. A lot of that is because of Edelman being out, DA missing time and Gronk either being out or not being Gronk. DA and Gronk should be in uni on Sunday. A part of that has been Brady holding it longer for longer plays. That's on Brady going for big plays or getting it out quick. Some of the comments I've read in other threads leads me to believe most don't think that difference is enough to matter. It actually matters a lot though. How many times did Brady barely beat the rush last year? Well, many of those are hits and sacks now. Same OL, slightly different O. |
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Post by pezz4pats on Oct 10, 2017 17:51:37 GMT -5
He won't last the season if the hits on him keep coming the way that they have. Solder and Cannon haven't been healthy by several insider accounts. They've had 10 more days. Finger's crossed Dante can work his magic. Brady has been getting the ball out at an avg of 2.7 seconds as opposed to the low 2's. A lot of that is because of Edelman being out, DA missing time and Gronk either being out or not being Gronk. DA and Gronk should be in uni on Sunday. A part of that has been Brady holding it longer for longer plays. That's on Brady going for big plays or getting it out quick. I read 2:46 which is a scant better than the league average. He was 2:26 They can't hold league average. It's the same crap line as last year except TB can't bail them out, anymore. Bout time they do their fckn jobs. |
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Post by croc on Oct 10, 2017 17:59:30 GMT -5
Solder and Cannon haven't been healthy by several insider accounts. They've had 10 more days. Finger's crossed Dante can work his magic. Brady has been getting the ball out at an avg of 2.7 seconds as opposed to the low 2's. A lot of that is because of Edelman being out, DA missing time and Gronk either being out or not being Gronk. DA and Gronk should be in uni on Sunday. A part of that has been Brady holding it longer for longer plays. That's on Brady going for big plays or getting it out quick. I read 2:46 which is a scant better than the league average. He was 2:26 They can't hold league average. It's the same crap line as last year except TB can't bail them out, anymore. Bout time they do their fckn jobs. Brady was getting it out at about 2.09 seconds www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tom-brady-is-nfls-quickest-draw-and-its-paying-off-for-the-3-0-patriots/. Per Bedard who breaks down every play it's around 2.7 seconds on average this year. |
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 10, 2017 18:03:04 GMT -5
Solder and Cannon haven't been healthy by several insider accounts. They've had 10 more days. Finger's crossed Dante can work his magic. Brady has been getting the ball out at an avg of 2.7 seconds as opposed to the low 2's. A lot of that is because of Edelman being out, DA missing time and Gronk either being out or not being Gronk. DA and Gronk should be in uni on Sunday. A part of that has been Brady holding it longer for longer plays. That's on Brady going for big plays or getting it out quick. I read 2:46 which is a scant better than the league average. He was 2:26 They can't hold league average. It's the same crap line as last year except TB can't bail them out, anymore. Bout time they do their fckn jobs. Well technically, Brady and Edelman can't bail them out anymore. One is still here, the other is not. |
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 10, 2017 18:03:38 GMT -5
That's not a trivial difference. |
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Post by robotpat on Oct 10, 2017 18:05:57 GMT -5
That's not a trivial difference. Statistically significant:) |
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Post by pezz4pats on Oct 10, 2017 18:17:24 GMT -5
I just read last week he was averaging 2:26 in 2016 and 2:46 at the time of the report. Where are bedards 2:70 stats? You also are neglecting he has to scramble more as if the don't immediately hit him, they're chasing him. That eats time Stop making excused for that shit pile of a line. It's pathetic. Are they last in the standings yet? They were 26th before that pitiful display last week against a team that had one fucng sack all year. Those stats are from 2015 and only 5 games. He did not maintain that average. |
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Post by croc on Oct 10, 2017 18:26:55 GMT -5
Since forming BSJ Bedard's been at every game and virtually all the practices. That wasn't the case when he was on MMQB the last several years. He reported ~2.7 seconds from his breakdowns of all plays, the other report lists Brady at 2.09 before this year.
Bedard didn't specify a previous time, but the above report seems plausible, and it's what I recall being broadcast before.
Ya I believe someone who's actually there and breaks it down after. BSJ costs 14 cents a day on an annual basis
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Post by pezz4pats on Oct 10, 2017 18:34:13 GMT -5
Since forming BSJ Bedard's been at every game and virtually all the practices. That wasn't the case when he was on MMQB the last several years. He reported ~2.7 seconds from his breakdowns of all plays, the other report lists Brady at 2.09 before this year. Bedard didn't specify a previous time, but the above report seems plausible, and it's what I recall being broadcast before. Ya I believe someone who's actually there and breaks it down after. BSJ costs 14 cents a day on an annual basis Where Is the breakdown? Link? Show it! Here is this year nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#yardsOnly one in the low 2s is Carr. The same guy you said sucks in the pocket. The same one who got sacked 4 times the day he refused to take a knee. Lol And if you can get 2016 to come up, it says TB 2.57 |
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Post by croc on Oct 10, 2017 18:37:02 GMT -5
He said it on Felger and Mazz, and if there was a link you'd have to pay for it.
The chart you list has 2.64 seconds, seems to be more or less in agreement my friend.
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Post by philskiw on Oct 10, 2017 18:37:46 GMT -5
I'm hoping he's healing some of those aggressions to his body. He's been getting his ass kicked and I can feel goodells delight. I'd say that goodell has his hands more full then just getting rid of Brady. Now he has to deal with JJ.
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Post by jri37 on Oct 10, 2017 18:49:07 GMT -5
Michael GiardiVerified account @mikegiardi Follow More Tom Brady injured his left shoulder vs Carolina and re-aggravated said injury in Tampa. More coming shortly on @nbcsboston thats what Giardi is reporting I heard differently. I heard he hurt his hip against the Panthers. I was not at the Bucs game, but I was told TB was noticeably favoring it. In fact, if you get the chance to catch NFL Net replay, before the game, they show TB running across the end zone, I assume back into the locker room. Tell me he is not favoring that leg while he is running? Just watched and it started right before kickoff so i didn't get to see Brady running in pregame. |
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