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Post by prolate0spheroid on Oct 16, 2017 20:38:52 GMT -5
Having a nice game on MNF.
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Post by paulk on Oct 16, 2017 20:55:13 GMT -5
I'm kind of impressed with his long-term effort. Jacoby gets traded into a 0-1 situation, goes onto the field ice cold, and if he can continue to pull off this game (13-9 at the half) his team is tied for first place.
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Post by homefield on Oct 16, 2017 20:55:31 GMT -5
I sure am and I hate the colts. I hate the trade and wish BB traded a draft pick instead for Dorsett.
He's only in his second year with room to improve accuracy. He already has all the intangibles and leadership you want.
The colts might get a 1st round pick (or at least a 2nd) if they trade him, which would make up for the pick they wasted on Dorsett.
I don't agree with Pezz often, but I totally agree with him on this one. Should've kept him and if you had to trade anyone, trade Jimmy for a bunch of picks
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Post by prolate0spheroid on Oct 16, 2017 21:01:40 GMT -5
Well, that wasn't his best drive. But overall he's been pretty impressive tonight. Tough to take over the offence without being in camp and having to learn the system on the fly.
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Post by fletcherbrook on Oct 16, 2017 21:03:55 GMT -5
I sure am and I hate the colts. I hate the trade and wish BB traded a draft pick instead for Dorsett. He's only in his second year with room to improve accuracy. He already has all the intangibles and leadership you want. The colts might get a 1st round pick (or at least a 2nd) if they trade him, which would make up for the pick they wasted on Dorsett. I don't agree with Pezz often, but I totally agree with him on this one. Should've kept him and if you had to trade anyone, trade Jimmy for a bunch of picks no offense to BB the Gm but he flails on multiple occasions IMO. this was one. jimmy would have brought an entire draft changing complexion this past draft---sorely needed infusion of talent. anyone with any sort of football iq could see that jacoby was more than competent and jimmy will not be here in 2019..sorry wazz...I know how much you like him. this was a majot slip up by MR. b |
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Post by homefield on Oct 16, 2017 21:09:33 GMT -5
Well, that wasn't his best drive. But overall he's been pretty impressive tonight. Tough to take over the offence without being in camp and having to learn the system on the fly. Its not like the colts have much talent on offense either. They have Hilton but not much else. Put Brissett on a team like Ariz, with Fitz, David Johnson and Arians calling plays and the kid could flourish |
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Post by prolate0spheroid on Oct 16, 2017 21:11:35 GMT -5
Sheard playing a bit undisciplined, but kinda wish he was still with the Pats.
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Post by 7thWonderOfTheWorld on Oct 16, 2017 21:12:14 GMT -5
I don't like it, I see the Colts as now having the 2nd best 1,2 punch at QB besides Brady/JG.
I see AV still drilling long FG's at age 44 and I just laugh. LOL
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Post by homefield on Oct 16, 2017 21:16:52 GMT -5
I sure am and I hate the colts. I hate the trade and wish BB traded a draft pick instead for Dorsett. He's only in his second year with room to improve accuracy. He already has all the intangibles and leadership you want. The colts might get a 1st round pick (or at least a 2nd) if they trade him, which would make up for the pick they wasted on Dorsett. I don't agree with Pezz often, but I totally agree with him on this one. Should've kept him and if you had to trade anyone, trade Jimmy for a bunch of picks no offense to BB the Gm but he flails on multiple occasions IMO. this was one. jimmy would have brought an entire draft changing complexion this past draft---sorely needed infusion of talent. anyone with any sort of football iq could see that jacoby was more than competent and jimmy will not be here in 2019..sorry wazz...I know how much you like him. this was a majot slip up by MR. b I was also one who didn't mind that they kept Jimmy (even though I knew they could get a bunch of picks for him) But when the Brissett trade happened, thought it was a big mistake. Whether he fit the system or offense or not, I think you have to hang on to a young promising QB like that. |
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Post by muzwell on Oct 16, 2017 22:10:00 GMT -5
You don't know what a QB is until he's played at least 40 games in the NFL. Luck has played more than that and do we know what he is? Mariota is getting close, what is he? Some guys look like budding stars in their first year and never look that good again.
Let's hold off on declaring Jacoby anything but a guy with potential. Well, you can declare him whatever you want, I'll wait a while. About 35 more games.
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Post by donholman on Oct 16, 2017 22:17:04 GMT -5
You don't know what a QB is until he's played at least 40 games in the NFL. Luck has played more than that and do we know what he is? Mariota is getting close, what is he? Some guys look like budding stars in their first year and never look that good again. Let's hold off on declaring Jacoby anything but a guy with potential. Well, you can declare him whatever you want, I'll wait a while. About 35 more games. Good point. On the other hand, Brady began to hit his stride around game start 5, and won his first Super Bowl in his 17th start. Some guys are special. |
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Post by prolate0spheroid on Oct 16, 2017 22:20:40 GMT -5
This Doyle guy is a disaster.
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Post by muzwell on Oct 16, 2017 22:31:13 GMT -5
You don't know what a QB is until he's played at least 40 games in the NFL. Luck has played more than that and do we know what he is? Mariota is getting close, what is he? Some guys look like budding stars in their first year and never look that good again. Let's hold off on declaring Jacoby anything but a guy with potential. Well, you can declare him whatever you want, I'll wait a while. About 35 more games. Good point. On the other hand, Brady began to hit his stride around game start 5, and won his first Super Bowl in his 17th start. Some guys are special. Brady wasn't all that his first couple of years. He was a 60% passer with 12 to 14 picks every year. The upper 60% completion rates and miniscule interception numbers didn't start until he was in his 30s. He did win a lot though. |
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Post by 7thWonderOfTheWorld on Oct 16, 2017 22:32:56 GMT -5
This Doyle guy is a disaster. He may be worse than Dwayne Allen, which is hard to do. |
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Post by homefield on Oct 16, 2017 22:41:56 GMT -5
Even though he didn't convert on 4th down, you have to admit Jacoby shows great awareness and leadership.
He sort of reminds me of Brady back in 2000/2001. I'd trade for this kid over Sam Darnold or maybe even JG at this point.
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Post by donholman on Oct 16, 2017 23:12:47 GMT -5
Good point. On the other hand, Brady began to hit his stride around game start 5, and won his first Super Bowl in his 17th start. Some guys are special. Brady wasn't all that his first couple of years. He was a 60% passer with 12 to 14 picks every year. The upper 60% completion rates and miniscule interception numbers didn't start until he was in his 30s. He did win a lot though. Lol - you got me with the INTs. Perhaps his biggest single accomplishment as a HOF QB was to reduce his INT rate. |
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Post by TFB12 on Oct 17, 2017 0:06:01 GMT -5
This Doyle guy is a disaster. He may be worse than Dwayne Allen, which is hard to do. I don't know.. at least Doyle can get open. He will catch more balls than the times Allen can get open. |
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Post by patslifer on Oct 17, 2017 6:04:20 GMT -5
He may be worse than Dwayne Allen, which is hard to do. I don't know.. at least Doyle can get open. He will catch more balls than the times Allen can get open. +1 Doyle beat out Allen which made Allen expendable. That's not saying much. |
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Post by prolate0spheroid on Oct 17, 2017 6:19:56 GMT -5
He may be worse than Dwayne Allen, which is hard to do. I don't know.. at least Doyle can get open. He will catch more balls than the times Allen can get open. Yeah, scary point. |
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Post by patslifer on Oct 17, 2017 6:27:30 GMT -5
I don't know.. at least Doyle can get open. He will catch more balls than the times Allen can get open. Yeah, scary point. Yeah. Pats need more production out of the 2nd TE spot. Consider this.... Through first 6 games of 2016.....Rob Gronkowski: 175 snaps, 19 targets, 13 catches, 282 yards, one touchdown Martellus Bennett: 345 snaps, 33 targets, 26 catches, 362 yards, four touchdowns AJ Derby: 35 snaps, zero targets Clay Harbor: 25 snaps, zero targets Through first 6 games of 2017Rob Gronkowski: 257 snaps, 41 targets, 26 catches, 401 yards, four touchdowns Dwayne Allen: 149 snaps, six targets, zero catches Jacob Hollister: 34 snaps, four targets, two catches, 24 yards Develin, 3 receptions, 20 yards (If you want to count Develin in this group) |
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Post by patseng on Oct 17, 2017 7:14:21 GMT -5
Brissett had a mediocre game, not good not bad. Imo that's basically what he is, an average QB who won't win you games very often but won't lose you games either. He's a very good backup and a lack luster starter in the end
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Post by TFB12 on Oct 17, 2017 7:20:49 GMT -5
I don't know.. at least Doyle can get open. He will catch more balls than the times Allen can get open. +1 Doyle beat out Allen which made Allen expendable. That's not saying much. Apparently the Colts knew more about Allen than the Pats did. Seriously, Doyle looks like he could be a beast if he can learn to hang on to the ball. |
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Post by rkarp on Oct 17, 2017 7:26:01 GMT -5
Brissett had a mediocre game, not good not bad. Imo that's basically what he is, an average QB who won't win you games very often but won't lose you games either. He's a very good backup and a lack luster starter in the end it was his 5th game played. I would think he still has some nice upside if he can control is accuracy issues. he has all the tangibles. great size. great arm. smart. poised. obviously needs to be more experienced and needs to fully understand the Colts offense and offensive players. but the potential is there imo for more upside |
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 17, 2017 7:26:35 GMT -5
+1 Doyle beat out Allen which made Allen expendable. That's not saying much. . Seriously, Doyle looks like he could be a beast if he can learn to hang on to the ball. I would hope so. He was on their team. He was also much more productive on their team. Perhaps that's a question that should asked. Why? |
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Post by rkarp on Oct 17, 2017 7:27:06 GMT -5
+1 Doyle beat out Allen which made Allen expendable. That's not saying much. Apparently the Colts knew more about Allen than the Pats did. Seriously, Doyle looks like he could be a beast if he can learn to hang on to the ball. I understood the situation to be that Doyle surpassed Allen last season, and the Colts were going to cut Allen if they did not find a trading partner |
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