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Post by bredbru on Oct 30, 2017 1:34:26 GMT -5
Linebacker & Quick receiver needed to get another Lombardy this year?
At this point, it looks like we wont make it through the playoffs and win a super bowl this year without adding a linebacker AND a quick cutting and often open wide receiver. some have mentioned washington's zack brown and cowboy's cole beasley. would washington at 3 and 4 and having a ton of injuries see that they have no shot this year and listen to an offer? i hear beasley is loved in the cowboy's front office (and he may have a concussion today), but he may be exactly the type of guy (or someone like him) who could help our poor o line and brady when he needs a binky to save a drive.
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 30, 2017 2:52:14 GMT -5
Well, we'll likely be seeing McClellin back soon. There's your LB. He's about as good as you are going to get at this point in the season. If only Mitchell could return you'd have your receiver too. If you mean quick as in Edelman quick that isn't going to happen. I think we have the talent to be very potent on offense. The problem is execution and play calling.
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Post by mthurl on Oct 30, 2017 5:22:45 GMT -5
Well, we'll likely be seeing McClellin back soon. There's your LB. He's about as good as you are going to get at this point in the season. If only Mitchell could return you'd have your receiver too. If you mean quick as in Edelman quick that isn't going to happen. I think we have the talent to be very potent on offense. The problem is execution and play calling. Speaking of Mitchell, how bad is that knee? You'd think they would have just had surgery on it and be done with it if it was that bad, right? But from everything I've read he's not coming back this year...and it's never been reported what happened. |
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 30, 2017 5:56:03 GMT -5
Well, we'll likely be seeing McClellin back soon. There's your LB. He's about as good as you are going to get at this point in the season. If only Mitchell could return you'd have your receiver too. If you mean quick as in Edelman quick that isn't going to happen. I think we have the talent to be very potent on offense. The problem is execution and play calling. Speaking of Mitchell, how bad is that knee? You'd think they would have just had surgery on it and be done with it if it was that bad, right? But from everything I've read he's not coming back this year...and it's never been reported what happened. I question how much we really know about his injury. Reiss merely stated that his "sense" is that he isn't close to returning yet. It seems to me like everyone in the media is just echoing one another. I don't think any of them have a clue. They have been inaccurately quoting Reiss as if he stated definitely that Mitchell is not close. That said, the fact he hasn't returned to practice doesn't bode well. Reiss' exact statement: "Meanwhile, my sense is that receiver Malcolm Mitchell, who was placed on IR on Sept. 7 (knee), is not close to being a consideration to begin practicing at this point, if at all this year."An example of how it's being reported elsewhere: "Mitchell (knee) is "not close" to being in consideration for returning to practice, Mike Reiss of ESPN.com reports." |
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Post by ATJ on Oct 30, 2017 6:24:42 GMT -5
Speaking of Mitchell, how bad is that knee? You'd think they would have just had surgery on it and be done with it if it was that bad, right? But from everything I've read he's not coming back this year...and it's never been reported what happened. I question how much we really know about his injury. Reiss merely stated that his "sense" is that he isn't close to returning yet. It seems to me like everyone in the media is just echoing one another. I don't think any of them have a clue. They have been inaccurately quoting Reiss as if he stated definitely that Mitchell is not close. That said, the fact he hasn't returned to practice doesn't bode well. Reiss' exact statement: "Meanwhile, my sense is that receiver Malcolm Mitchell, who was placed on IR on Sept. 7 (knee), is not close to being a consideration to begin practicing at this point, if at all this year."An example of how it's being reported elsewhere: "Mitchell (knee) is "not close" to being in consideration for returning to practice, Mike Reiss of ESPN.com reports."Funny how all this stuff seems to echo back and forth. Would we even know if Mitchell has had surgery since he was placed on IR? |
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Post by mthurl on Oct 30, 2017 7:33:55 GMT -5
Speaking of Mitchell, how bad is that knee? You'd think they would have just had surgery on it and be done with it if it was that bad, right? But from everything I've read he's not coming back this year...and it's never been reported what happened. I question how much we really know about his injury. Reiss merely stated that his "sense" is that he isn't close to returning yet. It seems to me like everyone in the media is just echoing one another. I don't think any of them have a clue. They have been inaccurately quoting Reiss as if he stated definitely that Mitchell is not close. That said, the fact he hasn't returned to practice doesn't bode well. Reiss' exact statement: "Meanwhile, my sense is that receiver Malcolm Mitchell, who was placed on IR on Sept. 7 (knee), is not close to being a consideration to begin practicing at this point, if at all this year."An example of how it's being reported elsewhere: "Mitchell (knee) is "not close" to being in consideration for returning to practice, Mike Reiss of ESPN.com reports."I think for Reid's to even put "my sense" into print, he knows something. This is a guy who is the ultimate Patriot yes man, I can't see him jumping to conclusions/sensing anything without knowing something. But I see what you mean, who knows what's really going on, what happened, what has been done? Anything could happen. I sure hope he comes back, he'd be a big boost to this offense. |
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Post by patmando on Oct 30, 2017 8:24:09 GMT -5
I wouldn’t mind seeing them dump Allen and get a decent second tight end in here.
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Post by patslifer on Oct 30, 2017 8:32:10 GMT -5
I think we have to see what comes out on Hogan. If he is just banged up or if the injury is more serious. I think this will influence what the Pats will do prior to the trade deadline.
Mitchell doesn't looked ready to come back. Cooks, Dorsett and Amendola aren't carrying the load. We'll need a viable 3rd/4th option. I don't think we'll find an Edelman replacement, but I do think we could bring in a decent possession receiver to help out. We should know more today/tomorrow on Hogan.
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Post by wazzu on Oct 30, 2017 8:55:21 GMT -5
I think we have to see what comes out on Hogan. If he is just banged up or if the injury is more serious. I think this will influence what the Pats will do prior to the trade deadline. Mitchell doesn't looked ready to come back. Cooks, Dorsett and Amendola aren't carrying the load. We'll need a viable 3rd/4th option. I don't think we'll find an Edelman replacement, but I do think we could bring in a decent possession receiver to help out. We should know more today/tomorrow on Hogan. Keep your fingers crossed that Hogan's injury is a sprained AC Joint. If that's the case, he may miss a couple of games, but he'll be fine for the stretch run. Man, this bye comes at a really great time this season. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 8:59:04 GMT -5
I'll buy the LB, but not WR. I always feel you can work on the Offense with the personnel you have by thinking outside the box. In other words you cant be traditional, (predictable), and help the Defense. When there is injuries, on this side of the ball.
We have 3 RB's that can catch the ball, why do we 1 RB just for blocking, 1 just for Running. Do they have hands?
TE's, you just cannot, focus on one. You have to try the other involved. If you just say forget it on the other, then might as well cut him.
Allen is not a 50+ receiver, but he's not a 0 receiver either. No way I'm buying this if BB made it a point to get him. You got to get him involved.
I was BB I would go to Josh, and asked him what is the problem, that we just don't get him involved more on Offense.
Offense can be fixed, (in the red zone) by just tweaking it, and better game plans.
Defense always has to improve. Injuries are more crucial on this side of the ball.
Edit: Also not buying Harris is done. Most of our mistakes in the run game is mental on Defense. I'll take the smart LB anytime who might have lost a step, over a kid out of position everytime. He doesn't look that slow to me either, especially in the run game.
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Post by fletcherbrook on Oct 30, 2017 9:30:36 GMT -5
I'll buy the LB, but not WR. I always feel you can work on the Offense with the personnel you have by thinking outside the box. In other words you cant be traditional, (predictable), and help the Defense. When there is injuries, on this side of the ball. We have 3 RB's that can catch the ball, why do we 1 RB just for blocking, 1 just for Running. Do they have hands? TE's, you just cannot, focus on one. You have to try the other involved. If you just say forget it on the other, then might as well cut him. Allen is not a 50+ receiver, but he's not a 0 receiver either. No way I'm buying this if BB made it a point to get him. You got to get him involved. I was BB I would go to Josh, and asked him what is the problem, that we just don't get him involved more on Offense. Offense can be fixed, (in the red zone) by just tweaking it, and better game plans. Defense always has to improve. Injuries are more crucial on this side of the ball. Edit: Also not buying Harris is done. Most of our mistakes in the run game is mental on Defense. I'll take the smart LB anytime who might have lost a step, over a kid out of position everytime. He doesn't look that slow to me either, especially in the run game. allen may not be a zer catch guy but have you watched him? he looks slower than concrete. lethargic. disinterested. unprepared. etc... most of all he looks completely devoid of any football acumen and talent. Hollister is a much much better specimen of a football player in regard to ceiling imo. if we got 10-15 catches from allen I would consider that a miracle. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 9:48:54 GMT -5
I've gone to work when I know I can do the job, and not given the chance, and I said to myself, _uck it. Do what you want. I know I lose interest, up to Coaches, to get plays, where he helps team. Not 20 yards deep outs. 5 yards TE screen pass, and keep it simple. He's not Gronk.
Simple is a great word.
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Post by pumpsiegreen on Oct 30, 2017 10:07:43 GMT -5
Well, we'll likely be seeing McClellin back soon. There's your LB. He's about as good as you are going to get at this point in the season. If only Mitchell could return you'd have your receiver too. If you mean quick as in Edelman quick that isn't going to happen. I think we have the talent to be very potent on offense. The problem is execution and play calling. Another problem is that Hogan, who is as tough as nails, may have suffered a pretty significant injury. No word yet on him. He couldn't even lift his arm and left the stadium in a sling. If he goes down we will definitely need to add a receiver. |
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Post by croc on Oct 30, 2017 10:10:46 GMT -5
I think for Reid's to even put "my sense" into print, he knows something. This is a guy who is the ultimate Patriot yes man, I can't see him jumping to conclusions/sensing anything without knowing something Some of the beat reporters like Reiss, Caron, Bedard and Howe seem to have contacts in the organization and even their "conjecture" is often based on some bit of information that is given under anonymity. When you get someone like Volin, Borges and call-in talking heads you get pure conjecture. |
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Post by teegee on Oct 30, 2017 10:53:50 GMT -5
Kind of late in the season to add an offensive player who can get up to speed with the play book. Just put a rb out wide. McClellin will help. Heard Breer say that draft choices are valuable now since adding youth will be come more of a priority.
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Post by Brady2Welker47 on Oct 30, 2017 12:26:34 GMT -5
Get that kid Braverman in again. Fiesty slot WR. Or Miami's practice squad guy Drew Morgan...rather have Drew Morgan.
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Post by somar on Oct 30, 2017 12:59:04 GMT -5
Linebacker & Quick receiver needed to get another Lombardy this year? At this point, it looks like we wont make it through the playoffs and win a super bowl this year without adding a linebacker AND a quick cutting and often open wide receiver. some have mentioned washington's zack brown and cowboy's cole beasley. would washington at 3 and 4 and having a ton of injuries see that they have no shot this year and listen to an offer? i hear beasley is loved in the cowboy's front office (and he may have a concussion today), but he may be exactly the type of guy (or someone like him) who could help our poor o line and brady when he needs a binky to save a drive. Beasley does remind a poor man's edelman but the guy i would really like to see playing that role for us is L. Fitzgerald. It's not like the Cards are going anywhere, so who knows. |
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Post by patslifer on Oct 30, 2017 14:19:47 GMT -5
Rumor is Pats are interested in trading for TY Hilton. Hilton is supposedly on the trading block along with Vontae Davis from the Colts who is on the last year of his contract Hilton is under contract for 3 more years.
Not sure how they would get it done with Hilton having some pretty big cap hits the next 3 years, but the rumor is floating out there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 14:42:05 GMT -5
Should have kept Carr.
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Post by mrmojo112058 on Oct 30, 2017 16:37:31 GMT -5
This is from NESN:
Could the New England Patriots pursue Calvin Johnson? Boomer Esiason isn’t ruling it out. Johnson, now 32 years old, hasn’t played since the 2015 season, but ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Sunday, citing league sources, that two teams have spoken to the Detroit Lions about potentially trading for the wide receiver’s rights before Tuesday’s NFL trade deadline. It’s unclear whether the Patriots would consider trading for Johnson, who’s still under contract with the Lions despite announcing his retirement in March 2016, but some have pointed to New England as a potential landing spot if he decides he wants to play football again.
“I could see it in a heartbeat,” Esiason, a former NFL quarterback now working as an analyst for CBS Sports, said Monday on 98.5 The Sports Hub’s “Toucher and Rich” of the Patriots possibly going after Megatron. “One thing we have seen over the last four or five years is that the New England Patriots have always made trades at this time of the year, and some of those trades are somewhat shocking — either they’re trading a guy to get a draft pick back or they’re acquiring somebody like an Aqib Talib. So believe you me when I think that Coach (Bill) Belichick is out there scouring all of these teams. I think he’s looking at opportunities to increase his playmakers, especially on offense. “Adding somebody like a Calvin Johnson to the Patriots would be an insane addition, especially depending on what’s going on with Chris Hogan now and how significant his injury is and the loss of Julian Edelman.” We don’t know what kind of shape Johnson is in right now given how long he’s been away from the field. We also don’t know whether he has any interest in an NFL comeback.
Joining the Patriots, who improved to 6-2 with Sunday’s win over the Los Angeles Chargers, would give the six-time Pro Bowl selection an opportunity to win a Super Bowl, though. Perhaps he’ll find that appealing and Bill Belichick will jump at the chance to add another offensive weapon. “This gives them a different kind of perspective because he’s so much bigger,” Esiason said of the 6-foot-5 wideout. “And I don’t know what kind of shape Calvin Johnson is in, by the way. And I would also think that if it were the New England Patriots, he would say ‘yes’ in a heartbeat.” Johnson caught 88 passes for 1,214 yards and nine touchdowns with the Lions in 2015. He racked up a career-high 122 receptions and an NFL single-season record 1,964 receiving yards during the 2012 campaign.
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