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Post by Shelly on Aug 8, 2016 9:38:17 GMT -5
You still miss the point. When I root for the US swim team it is because it is the US swim team. I am not rooting for the collection of swimmers of two from the US team, 1 from the French team, 2 from the Australian team, etc. Are all the efforts individual? Of course. Do they interact with each other? No. Are they a TEAM? Well the US collection is a TEAM representing the US while the other way is just a collection of players representing no one in particular other than some fantasy guy. I can have a beer with other fans of the US team and we all root for the same team together. What about the other collection? That is my point. I didn't miss the point, you defined a team by how they interact with each other, not by how the fans perceptive them. Now you've changed that argument to reflect how a set of fans root for them? So, it's the fans that define what a team is by how many root for that grouping? Just because you can sit down and have a beer with someone and root for the same grouping doesn't define them as that team. Though if you want to go down that road I can sit down with a group of people who have the same individual fantasy players as me in different leagues and we all root for the same individual or collection of individuals to do well so by that definition does that not make them the same? Btw, why limit it to the Olympics, High School sports have teams of swimmers who have meets and that determines end of year championships. Is it less of a team championship because it was won off of individual performances? Ok, I call the Patriots a "real team" and you collection of players your "fantasy team".
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Post by patseng on Aug 8, 2016 12:36:39 GMT -5
I didn't miss the point, you defined a team by how they interact with each other, not by how the fans perceptive them. Now you've changed that argument to reflect how a set of fans root for them? So, it's the fans that define what a team is by how many root for that grouping? Just because you can sit down and have a beer with someone and root for the same grouping doesn't define them as that team. Though if you want to go down that road I can sit down with a group of people who have the same individual fantasy players as me in different leagues and we all root for the same individual or collection of individuals to do well so by that definition does that not make them the same? Btw, why limit it to the Olympics, High School sports have teams of swimmers who have meets and that determines end of year championships. Is it less of a team championship because it was won off of individual performances? Ok, I call the Patriots a "real team" and you collection of players your "fantasy team". Yep, that works as that's how I think of it too, lol. The Patriots are the real team I root for the fantasy team is a team of individuals I want to do well but not ahead of the Pats. That's a fair statement in the end. In reality fantasy sports is nothing more than playing a game and using what knowledge you have and a bit of luck to gain an advantage over your opponent for that week but I can't control the real team I root for and I can control the fantasy team I play so while fantasy will never trump the real thing it doesn't mean it can't be enjoyable to not to mention makes you feel more involved in the sport you love, much more so than just turning on a TV every week
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Post by TFB12 on Aug 9, 2016 14:24:33 GMT -5
I want to stab forks in my eyes while reading this ongoing argument.
Sheldon is stuck in his ways and will never change his mind or outlook on ANYTHING! I have come to accept that.
Anyway, no matter how you look at it, and for the record I share a lot (probably most) of the same thoughts about fantasy football as PatsEng does. One thing that is for sure, I would guess just about everyone who has played fantasy football in the past would agree on this... Fantasy football makes the entire season more fun. It doesn't take anything away on how we cheer for our favorite team, however, it does make other games more fun and enjoyable to watch. For me it helps me to keep better track of more teams and players that I normally wouldn't care for or keep track of. I think that's a good thing... for me. Plus, it's just another thing that I can enjoy both doing and talking about with my son. I'm in one league that I share a fantasy team with my son, in the same league we play against my brother and some friends I have known, worked with and played fantasy football with for over 20 years.
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