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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 25, 2019 9:54:03 GMT -5
Damn I really hope this is true, at least the later part.
Adam Schefter tells M&C Patriots aren't interested in trading for Josh Rosen, doesn't foresee them taking QB early in NFL Draft...
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Post by thehub on Apr 25, 2019 10:05:00 GMT -5
So we will all sit up watching as the first rounds grounds through each pick hour after hour. As it finally gets into the 20s we wait for a trade... forward... backward?... nothing... pick after pick. Tic toc. Tic toc. We sit. we wait. When will it happen.... but.. it.. does..nt..... And then. late into the night, 32 finally comes up, our pick finally arrives.... OK... OK.. well... this guy didnt fall far enough... That guy didnt fall... but look at all those choices we have... Who will it be... Pick of the round.. Who will it be... BBs vote holds the key... Its up to him. Tell us who.. will be pick of the day... The clock ticks. 15 minutes turns to 10.. to 5.. to 3.. to 2.. .Come on BB... who will it be? And then at the 11th hour of the 32nd pick it happens... BB has traded out of the first round.. Well, sleep well. we have another 2nd round pick for tomorrow... With 12 pics and a 53 man roster all 12 won’t make it. So, we want pick 12. This is the year we move up to get the guy who BB wants. This draft will be like the Jones / Hightower draft. We have the capital to get two great players - they will leave after 4 years but that’s a discussion for another day.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 10:08:28 GMT -5
I think a lot of picks will go to next year. 3 good QB's in next years Draft, that we will need picks for.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 25, 2019 10:16:16 GMT -5
So we will all sit up watching as the first rounds grounds through each pick hour after hour. As it finally gets into the 20s we wait for a trade... forward... backward?... nothing... pick after pick. Tic toc. Tic toc. We sit. we wait. When will it happen.... but.. it.. does..nt..... And then. late into the night, 32 finally comes up, our pick finally arrives.... OK... OK.. well... this guy didnt fall far enough... That guy didnt fall... but look at all those choices we have... Who will it be... Pick of the round.. Who will it be... BBs vote holds the key... Its up to him. Tell us who.. will be pick of the day... The clock ticks. 15 minutes turns to 10.. to 5.. to 3.. to 2.. .Come on BB... who will it be? And then at the 11th hour of the 32nd pick it happens... BB has traded out of the first round.. Well, sleep well. we have another 2nd round pick for tomorrow... This stream of consciousness could be a stream of reality, haha.
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Post by jjdbrasil on Apr 25, 2019 10:16:17 GMT -5
Round 1 Pick 32: Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, FS, Florida Round 2 Pick 24: Irv Smith Jr, TE, Alabama Round 2 Pick 32: Charles Omenihu, DE, Texas Round 3 Pick 9: Khalen Saunders, DT, Western Illinois Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP): Andy Isabella, WR, Massachusetts Round 3 Pick 37 (COMP): Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia Round 4 Pick 32: Benny Snell, RB, Kentucky Round 6 Pick 32 (COMP): Iman Marshall, CB, USC Round 7 Pick 25: Martez Ivey, OT, Florida Round 7 Pick 29: Zach Gentry, TE, Michigan Round 7 Pick 32: Jamell Garcia-Williams, DE/OLB, UAB Round 7 Pick 38 (COMP): Kyle Shurmur, QB, Vanderbilt
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Post by wazzu on Apr 25, 2019 10:32:23 GMT -5
Final 2019 Patriots Mock.
32) Kaleb McGary. OT. UW. This guy is huge. 6’7 319. The only issue is his arms are very short compared to his frame. I’m not worried about that. He can be a bull as a run blocker and he’s athletic enough to pass protect at a high level. NE will draft the BPA at 32, if they Pick there at all, and I think they will view McGary as just that. Scar may have some incentive to stick around for a few more years with thoughts of Wynn on the Left and McGary on the Right...
56) Zach Allen. DE. Boston College. Allen’s the type of player Belichick loves to have on the Edge. He’s a big DE at 6’4 280. He will excel at stopping the run and keeping QBs contained, while also providing adequate pressure when assigned to do so. He’s a local guy who has seen his stock slip since January, but I’m sure Belichick has his eye on him.
64) Andy Isabella. WR. UMass. This is just too good of a fit to pass up. Another local kid, Isabella has the quicks and the speed to kill from the Slot. He would learn from the best playing with Edelman. I just love the fit, and while this may seem like a reach to some, in a few years it will look like a steal.
NE Trades #73 and #252 to AZ for QB Josh Rosen and #139 The whole Rosen situation is starting to feel like a total Belichick style trade. I think AZ is sold on Murray and will draft him #1. I think other possible Rosen suites like NYG and WSH will Draft rookies. The Chargers are a possibility to snag Rosen, but I kinda feel like BB may jump at the chance to acquire last year’s #10 pick for pennies on the dollar.
NE Trades 97 & 134 to CHI for #87
87. Dawson Knox. TE. Ole Miss. Knox was under-utilized at Mississippi due to Ole Miss having 2 big time WRs to feed. His got prototypical TE size at 6’4 255 and the athleticism to be a force in the blocking game and as a receiving threat. He’s still developing as a TE, but the upside is terrific. If NE doesn’t take him in the Top 73, they won’t be able to wait until 97 for him. Here I have Belichick moving one spot ahead of Matty P and swinging a deal with the pick-needy Bears to land Knox.
101. Jachai Polite. Edge. Florida. Maybe a bit of a stunner here, both in the fact that Polite is still on the board and the fact that he is headed to NE. Polite isn’t your typical Patriot. He’s a pass rush specialist who exploded in 2018 with a great season but didn’t do much before that. He was also supposedly a disaster in combine interviews and had poor workouts throughout the process, which may cause his once promising draft stock to take a major hit. However, his upside is undeniable. At 6’3 255 he can explode off the edge and provide instant situational pass rush. If he’s just sitting there at 101, Belichick may jump all over the value.
139) Lamont Gaillard. OL. Georgia. Belichick loves drafting Georgia Bulldogs. Gaillard is an under-valued interior OL prospect in this class, but a talented future NFL stud and a tremendous Thuney replacement in a year. A perfect Patriots Day 3 pick.
205) Dontavious Russell. DT. Auburn. I’m sold on dexter Lawrence at 32, but I’m also sold on the fact that he’s going to get drafted well before that. Russell is a great consolation prize late in the sixth round. This SEC Monster would be a great snag for Belichick. He’s 6’3 320 and can provide some much needed strength in the interior of the D-Line. Great value
239) Travis Fulgham. WR. Old Dominiam. Belichick may have his eye on this 6’2 215 lb small school prospect out of ODU. He’s a tough evaluation coming from lower level competition, but he’s got great size and seems to have great hands. He also gets open quickly. He is absolutely worth a flyer at this point
243) Malik Gant. S. Marshall. Credit goes to MB for bringing this guy to my attention earlier in the draft process. I love his tape. He flies around the field, tackles well, and shows great instincts. His workout numbers weren’t great, but at this point I think he’s a heckuva Pick. This deep safety class is the only reason he’s available this late.
246) Jordan Miller. CB. UW. The 6’1 186 lb Miller needs a year in the Weight Room/PS, but he’s smooth in coverage and shows a lot of potential. As the saying goes, you can never have too many good DBs, and with a little time, Miller could develop into a very good one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 10:34:09 GMT -5
I thought about BB's thoughts on getting great Value with injuries, my vote there this weekend. Alex Bars. I like this kid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 10:38:10 GMT -5
I’ll take the easy way out and predict NE trades back with #32. Maybe even for a 1st for 2020.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 25, 2019 10:40:48 GMT -5
Of the three scenarios I have picking at #32 as 3rd on the list. Moving up for a falling prospect or trading back to a top 2nd round pick easily ahead of sticking at #32 imo.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 25, 2019 10:41:12 GMT -5
Gronkology
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 25, 2019 10:44:14 GMT -5
Reminder that there is no one close to this beast in this draft class
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 10:52:33 GMT -5
Of the three scenarios I have picking at #32 as 3rd on the list. Moving up for a falling prospect or trading back to a top 2nd round pick easily ahead of sticking at #32 imo. Because of the 5th year option the late first round picks have a lot of trade value, big difference between pick 32 to 33
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 25, 2019 10:55:50 GMT -5
Reminder that there is no one close to this beast in this draft class There won't be a 6'6" 264 pound rookie with his measurables for a long long time, but there are still a lot of really good TE's in this class. Let's grab two to make up for the loss of one Gronk.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 11:03:22 GMT -5
Reminder that there is no one close to this beast in this draft class There won't be a 6'6" 264 pound rookie with his measurables for a long long time, but there are still a lot of really good TE's in this class. Let's grab two to make up for the loss of one Gronk. pass
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 25, 2019 11:04:18 GMT -5
Reminder that there is no one close to this beast in this draft class There won't be a 6'6" 264 pound rookie with his measurables for a long long time, but there are still a lot of really good TE's in this class. Let's grab two to make up for the loss of one Gronk. If you say so. I don't see that. More than half of the Top 10 or so TE prospects in this class tested out as "BELOW" avg athletes for the position in the NFL. The ones who tested avg or above all have a bunch of question marks to them. There will be some who can play, but "a lot of really good"? Not what I have seen.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 25, 2019 11:11:49 GMT -5
There won't be a 6'6" 264 pound rookie with his measurables for a long long time, but there are still a lot of really good TE's in this class. Let's grab two to make up for the loss of one Gronk. If you say so. I don't see that. More than half of the Top 10 or so TE prospects in this class tested out as "BELOW" avg athletes for the position in the NFL. The ones who tested avg or above all have a bunch of question marks to them. There will be some who can play, but "a lot of really good"? Not what I have seen. Noah Fant T.J. Hockenson Foster Moreau Kahale Warring Alize Mack Dawson Knox Trevon Wesco These are just the guys who attended the combine, I'm sure there are a few who didn't as well. That's a pretty good class.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 25, 2019 11:13:16 GMT -5
There won't be a 6'6" 264 pound rookie with his measurables for a long long time, but there are still a lot of really good TE's in this class. Let's grab two to make up for the loss of one Gronk. pass Pass on taking a TE? Has everyone gone insane?
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 25, 2019 11:20:43 GMT -5
I want tillery with that first pick but the more i watch fant if they can trade up i wouldn’t mind getting him.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 25, 2019 11:23:37 GMT -5
If you say so. I don't see that. More than half of the Top 10 or so TE prospects in this class tested out as "BELOW" avg athletes for the position in the NFL. The ones who tested avg or above all have a bunch of question marks to them. There will be some who can play, but "a lot of really good"? Not what I have seen. Noah Fant - Shitty hands for where he is expected to be drafted with the most dropped passes on catachable balls in the class of top prospects, doesn't play to his athleticism, weak effort blocker, good redzone target, for someone so fast has one of the weakest YAC production in the class, not sure of his love for the game with strong aspersions for becoming a surgeon.T.J. Hockenson Foster Moreau - Loves football, high effort blocker but poor technique, can be fixed, no experience in passing game or running routes, complete unknown as to where he can or will develop in that regard, had to ramp it way down to a snails pace doing any catching drills at the combineKahale Warring - Still really raw, questionable hands, Alt Jacob HollisterAlize Mack - brain dead dope that has like 20 motor vehicle violationsDawson Knox - constantly banged up so people question his durability, not a ton of reps in the passing game, Alt Jacob HollisterTrevon Wesco - blocker full back Dwayne Allen replacement. Specific role player.These are just the guys who attended the combine, I'm sure there are a few who didn't as well. That's a pretty good class. Like I said tons of question marks
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 25, 2019 11:24:23 GMT -5
Pass on taking a TE? Has everyone gone insane? I believe he is saying pass on two maybe??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 11:25:22 GMT -5
I want tillery with that first pick but the more i watch fant if they can trade up i wouldn’t mind getting him. I’m of the opposite opinion of Fant. Watched a lot of Iowa games and never seemed to live up to the hype imo. I guess I’m just not a big fan of “move” TEs in general unless they are great receivers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 11:26:11 GMT -5
Do this at 6'6" and 264. This is what made him special. Running over people seen it. Catch like a Slot Receiver, was unreal. Critical Play, at a Critical Time, with a terribly thrown ball. He's money. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrs9rgZ6lZI
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 11:27:39 GMT -5
Pass on taking a TE? Has everyone gone insane? I believe he is saying pass on two maybe?? Yeah, maybe take a flyer late on someone like Warring late but would not draft 2 until really late in the draft.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 25, 2019 11:29:50 GMT -5
Noah Fant - Shitty hands for where he is expected to be drafted with the most dropped passes on catachable balls in the class of top prospects, doesn't play to his athleticism, weak effort blocker, good redzone target, for someone so fast has one of the weakest YAC production in the class.T.J. Hockenson Foster Moreau - Loves football, high effort blocker but poor technique, can be fixed, no experience in passing game or running routes, complete unknown as to where he can or will develop in that regard, had to ramp it way down to a snails pace doing any catching drills at the combineKahale Warring - Still really raw, questionable hands, Alt Jacob HollisterAlize Mack - brain dead dope that has like 20 motor vehicle violationsDawson Knox - constantly banged up so people question his durability, not a ton of reps in the passing game, Alt Jacob HollisterTrevon Wesco - blocker full back Dwayne Allen replacement. Specific role player.These are just the guys who attended the combine, I'm sure there are a few who didn't as well. That's a pretty good class. Like I said tons of question marks I wouldn’t go crazy when it comes to fant’s stats. Gronk had similar production in college.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 25, 2019 11:31:10 GMT -5
I want tillery with that first pick but the more i watch fant if they can trade up i wouldn’t mind getting him. I’m of the opposite opinion of Fant. Watched a lot of Iowa games and never seemed to live up to the hype imo. I guess I’m just not a big fan of “move” TEs in general unless they are great receivers. They where using two tight ends. The other guy’s pretty good too. We will see. Gronk has similar production to fant in college.
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