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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 29, 2018 12:43:51 GMT -5
This team needs a DT, DE, LB, WR. I wouldn’t draft a safety nor a cornerback. They need to concentrate on those positions. You forgot TE. They do need a S though too. All our safeties are old. Yes but i prefer they use an early pick on those other positions. Frankly i would like to see them try and free up more cap space to add some pieces. I would say goodbye to Hightower if he doesn’t take a discount. Gronk likely might retire so yes tight end is a big need.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 12:50:42 GMT -5
15/21 completion is good but does not seem exceptional when your team ran the ball 52 times, averaging 4 yds per carry. I personally would not draft a QB who is not expected to carry his team in a bowl game. They ran the ball 52 times with most in the second half, to not run up the score .... Got it. Hopefully, ESPN runs a replay that I can record, so I can actually watch. Thanks.
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Post by wazzu on Dec 29, 2018 13:05:34 GMT -5
Well, I’ll just say this once to avoid going into full blown “homer” mode. If Wazzu QB Gardner Minshew is on the board anywhere on Day 3, there are a lot worse ways to use a Pick than drafting him. I don’t know how his workouts are going to go, but he is accurate and he wins a hell of a lot of games.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 13:08:11 GMT -5
Good read. I need to look into Bryce Hall... his PBU total (20 in 2018) popped, when I was researching Juan Thornhill, and it seems there's quite a bit to be excited about with this player. I really hope Renfrow or Isabella end up in NE as their future slot guy. Bryce Hall just gained a fan today. I love the pass breakup he made at the start of the second quarter. Most CBs would not resist the temptation to grab/pull and turning the receiver with the left hand. That means he is always close enough to make that breakup, and he knows he can make that play without cheating.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 13:23:12 GMT -5
Is anyone watching the S CAR vs VA game?
Virginia QB Bryce Perkins is making the quick throws to the underneath routes look easy. He definitely is throwing it more accurately than Brissett did.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 29, 2018 13:32:26 GMT -5
Is anyone watching the S CAR vs VA game? Virginia QB Bryce Perkins is making the quick throws to the underneath routes look easy. He definitely is throwing it more accurately than Brissett did. How does Olamide Zaccheaus look? He can absolutely fly.
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Post by jjdbrasil on Dec 29, 2018 13:34:12 GMT -5
Watching Mich vs Florida. May switch over later.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 13:39:39 GMT -5
Player: Deebo Samuel / WR / South Carolina
Listed Size: 5-11+ 210
Did Samuel also sit out his team's bowl game? I have not seen him make a catch. I do not think he has stepped on the field.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 13:44:05 GMT -5
Is anyone watching the S CAR vs VA game? Virginia QB Bryce Perkins is making the quick throws to the underneath routes look easy. He definitely is throwing it more accurately than Brissett did. How does Olamide Zaccheaus look? He can absolutely fly. Been lighting up the field. It's not top speed that he has showcased so far. He has been killing S CAR quickness to get separation. He has so far been Perkins' favorite receiver because he is the guy who is quickly open for a gain. I was actually going to post on him. Smallish receiver, but his route running looks crazy good so far. He also looks like someone who has Steve Smith's (CAR) mental and physical toughness.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 29, 2018 13:45:50 GMT -5
Player: Deebo Samuel / WR / South Carolina
Listed Size: 5-11+ 210
Did Samuel also sit out his team's bowl game? I have not seen him make a catch. I do not think he has stepped on the field. He's sitting this one out, yes.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 13:48:49 GMT -5
OT: Is anyone else loving Dr Pepper's Fansville ad campaign? They're hilarious.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 13:57:23 GMT -5
I was just going to post that Perkins has thrown 14 for 18. Then he threw two back-to-back inaccurate passes.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 13:59:20 GMT -5
Did Samuel also sit out his team's bowl game? I have not seen him make a catch. I do not think he has stepped on the field. He's sitting this one out, yes. I guess he is vital to the team's performance. They just mentioned his name and they were saying S CAR is missing him right now.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 14:01:25 GMT -5
I know Thornhill is there somewhere past the right edge of the screen. S CAR is not even moving the ball near him.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 14:09:03 GMT -5
I think this QB Perkins could benefit from staying in school one more year. He made three straight bad throws and it looked like he was having the yips or something. He calmed down until he ran the ball for the first down. But those throws are the types that could be disastrous. He needs to learn to keep calm throughout the game.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 14:53:10 GMT -5
Juan Thornhill just got his 6th INT this year. He read that play really well. If anyone out there wants an athletic S who will not out-high-pointed by a WR, watch this youtube. www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9iojwtuJbQ
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 14:59:49 GMT -5
He also looks like he can ace all the combine speed and agility drills. Just by the way he moves, I will predict the following for him.
40 yard dash: 4.43 to 4.47 3-Cone: 6.8 to 6.9 Shuttle: 3.9 to 4.0 High jump: 45 inches
Sorry. I am bored.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 15:10:22 GMT -5
Zaccheaus caught his 3rd TD rec of the game.
QB Perkins is my sleeper QB for 2020. If he is as humble as he looks and continues to develop, he will challenge the top QBs in teh 2020 draft
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 29, 2018 16:09:08 GMT -5
My takeaways from the SC vs VA game:
CB Bryce Hall and S Juan Thornhill are kids I would really love for the Pats to draft. I would be willing to part with a latter first round pick for either one. Might be a bit of an overdraft, but a lot of first round picks were wasted on worse players.
On D, the only other eligible player that caught my eye was Chris Peace, a 6-2, 250 lb LB/DE. Would be willing to part a third day pick on him.
Lastly, I would not mind it if they pick up WR Olamide Zaccheaus. A lot of people will balk at his 5-8, 180 frame. I do not mind it. His size will make him available in the 4th or 5th round, and could even go undrafted. He played like a first roudner today. If his combine drills confirm his speed and quickness, I would throw a 5th or 6th at him.
VA QB Bryce Perkins will be in the conversation on top QBs in the 2020 draft, if he keeps developing.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 30, 2018 3:36:42 GMT -5
Not a bad prop bet: How many Alabama and Clemson players will be in picked in the first round?
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 30, 2018 8:35:09 GMT -5
My takeaways from the SC vs VA game: CB Bryce Hall and S Juan Thornhill are kids I would really love for the Pats to draft. I would be willing to part with a latter first round pick for either one. Might be a bit of an overdraft, but a lot of first round picks were wasted on worse players. On D, the only other eligible player that caught my eye was Chris Peace, a 6-2, 250 lb LB/DE. Would be willing to part a third day pick on him. Lastly, I would not mind it if they pick up WR Olamide Zaccheaus. A lot of people will balk at his 5-8, 180 frame. I do not mind it. His size will make him available in the 4th or 5th round, and could even go undrafted. He played like a first roudner today. If his combine drills confirm his speed and quickness, I would throw a 5th or 6th at him. VA QB Bryce Perkins will be in the conversation on top QBs in the 2020 draft, if he keeps developing. Good stuff... I currently have Thornhill as my #3 safety, behind Rapp and Adderley, and Hall as a Top 3 CB, up there with DeAndre Baker and Julian Love... though Love might head back to school. Zaccheaus is an intriguing player as, despite his size, he's been a productive player for (3) years, and got some burn as a true freshman... I also love the explosive aspect to his game.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 30, 2018 8:41:59 GMT -5
Not a bad prop bet: How many Alabama and Clemson players will be in picked in the first round? Man, I'll go with (8) for now: Alabama: Quinnen Williams Jonah Williams Deionte Thompson Mack Wilson Raekwon Davis Clemson: Trayvon Mullen Clelin Ferrell Lawrence or Wilkins
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 30, 2018 10:11:54 GMT -5
Kyler Murray is as special a talent/athlete as I've seen at the college level... my god is he fun to watch.
With that said, Barry Sanders is the best player that I've ever seen at the college level.
Coincidence that they're both prob on the wrong side of 5-9?
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Post by wazzu on Dec 30, 2018 19:19:02 GMT -5
I saw Minshew play every game this year and saw him live 3 times. I mentioned it the other day, but if he’s in the board on Day 3 he would be a very worthwhile pick. Not too many people can come into a program as a 1 year Grad Transfer, on the heels of the team’s projected starter tragically committing suicide, and display the type of immediate leadership that Minshew did. From Day 1 with the team he established himself as the leader of the team, while at the same time displaying the type of sensitivity and respect that was due to the late Tyler Hilinski and the Cougar team that was still dealing with that tragedy. That in itself says a ton about Minshew’s Character and Leadership. As far as his physical abilities, his tape and his W/L record speaks for itself. He releases the ball quickly, isn’t afraid to throw it down field, and has plenty of arm to make every throw. He’s also pretty athletic on his feet and displayed plenty of escapability.
As a product of the air-Raid, he will have an adjustment going to an NFL offense, but based on how quickly he addapeted to Leach’s system, I like his chances.
Most importantly, the guy never quits, and neither does the team around him. He’s a great competitor. He’s a leader. I’d love to see NE draft him.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 30, 2018 19:22:42 GMT -5
I saw Minshew play every game this year and saw him live 3 times. I mentioned it the other day, but if he’s in the board on Day 3 he would be a very worthwhile pick. Not too many people can come into a program as a 1 year Grad Transfer, on the heels of the team’s projected starter tragically committing suicide, and display the type of immediate leadership that Minshew did. From Day 1 with the team he established himself as the leader of the team, while at the same time displaying the type of sensitivity and respect that was due to the late Tyler Hilinski and the Cougar team that was still dealing with that tragedy. That in itself says a ton about Minshew’s Character and Leadership. As far as his physical abilities, his tape and his W/L record speaks for itself. He releases the ball quickly, isn’t afraid to throw it down field, and has plenty of arm to make every throw. He’s also pretty athletic on his feet and displayed plenty of escapability. As a product of the air-Raid, he will have an adjustment going to an NFL offense, but based on how quickly he addapeted to Leach’s system, I like his chances. Most importantly, the guy never quits, and neither does the team around him. He’s a great competitor. He’s a leader. I’d love to see NE draft him. These are my thoughts on Minshew, from the Sleeper QB thread: I think you could make the argument that he's a bit of a one year wonder, who's stats are inflated by the system, as he was a <59% passer over 506 attempts, and two years at ECU... he also had 24 TD's and 11 INT's during that span. Fast-forward to his year at WSU and he's a 70% passer, with a 36-9 TD/INT split.
With that said, I watched a few of his game cut-ups this morning and I think he does some good things. I like his mobility and ability to extend plays, the arm looks adequate, seems to have a quick release, and he flashes the ability throw with some anticipation and to make some good throws down the field, while fitting them it into tight windows. With that said, his ball placement is inconsistent on shorter throws as he threw a fair amount behind WR's on slants, crossers, and/or over some heads on routes outside the hashes. A lot of these were completions, due to good plays made by the receiver, so they won't show up on his comp %, but I don't think it's ideal... especially when you factor in how open a lot of this pass catchers are, due to scheme.
I'll prob be adding him to the next release of my board, and like him in the middle rounds at this point.
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