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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 26, 2019 9:44:59 GMT -5
Random thought... can you imagine the possibilities, if they get a healthy Thomas, Gordon and Harry on the field, all at the same time? Good luck defending that! How about a gordon, Harry, burkhead, and (2) TE set. Run or pass. Real tough for the D to choose, and all can block the run or catch the ball. Harry is kind of an AH tweener, just a little closer to the WR side of the dial. Yeah, you're gonna see a lot of different formations and groupings... and I still wanna see what the TE group is gonna look like. And I feel a lot better about the WR position than I did a few weeks ago... hope to see them add another piece over the next few rounds as well! Harry is definitely a WR, a true potential alpha X that we haven't often see in NE, but can be lined up all over the place.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 26, 2019 9:46:26 GMT -5
We have to think Special Teams tonight, Receivers now, have to be able to help in the return game also. Jump up and get Samuel, a thought, or Hardman. There are a numbers of guys that return kick or punts or play special teams in general throughout the draft. The two you mentioned, plus McLaurin, Dortch, Meyers, Johnson, Campbell, Renfrow, etc.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 26, 2019 9:51:39 GMT -5
is Rosen an option with one of the 3rd rounders? The cardinals are trying to play hard ball with teams. They also have to option to hold on to him and hope/wait for a QB injury to happen for another team as the training camps and season starts and see if the value increases.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 26, 2019 9:52:32 GMT -5
Anyone else find it interesting that Atlanta traded up in front of NE to select Kaleb McGary? I wonder if he would've been the pick, had he been available?
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Post by portfolio1 on Apr 26, 2019 9:54:05 GMT -5
Today I look for us to get a solid T, S, DL (DT or edge) and possibly a TE, and even still another WR. We do double dip don't we. And Isabella would be the next Jules. A developmental TE with high upside would be great - our coaching staff develops players. Get some added youth at S, starting depth at T (and so insurance at G with Wynn if Thuney decides he doesn't like winning) and keep reloading on the DL.
If they are seriously thinking of bringing back Shelton or if they think they could get Suh (for a year) then the edge becomes more critical than DT. But player assessment should and will dictate the actual pick(s).
Regarding WR: Keep in mind Jules is 32, Dorsett has not yet proven he can be a consistent contributor, Gordon is special still but not dependable and Berrios is unproven. Aside from the gem we just picked the WR corps is in dire need to being viable in 2020 and 2021 and 2022.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 26, 2019 9:55:24 GMT -5
It was interesting to see the "arguably" top "true" FS and "true" SS go in the 1st round but the guys who are versatile and can play either S or CB still on the board. (CGJ, Hooker, Thornhill) ...wonder if Kraft made the BB remove Hooker from his draft board?
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 26, 2019 9:56:04 GMT -5
Anyone else find it interesting that Atlanta traded up in front of NE to select Kaleb McGary? I wonder if he would've been the pick, had he been available? yep, already mentioned his a few pages back. would love to know
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 26, 2019 9:56:53 GMT -5
is Rosen an option with one of the 3rd rounders? The cardinals are trying to play hard ball with teams. I think they're also trying to save some face, as they're not gonna get near the value of what they paid for Rosen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 10:00:12 GMT -5
Send Arizona our 4, 7th Rounders, then they could say they got 4 picks for him.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 26, 2019 10:03:03 GMT -5
Screw Rosen, let Arizona keep him, if he's as good as some think let him beat out Kyler Murray.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 26, 2019 10:03:08 GMT -5
It was interesting to see the "arguably" top "true" FS and "true" SS go in the 1st round but the guys who are versatile and can play either S or CB still on the board. (CGJ, Hooker, Thornhill) ...wonder if Kraft made the BB remove Hooker from his draft board? Interesting point... though I think Savage can prob do a little of everything. My dream is still to have RKK announce the Hooker pick. **In his Tito's and Soda slurred voice** "With the 56th pick, in the 2019 NFL draft, the New England Patriots select, Amani Hooker, safety from Orchids of Asia... heyyy, who wrote this card... Jonathan?!"
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 26, 2019 10:11:19 GMT -5
One thing about the Harry pick is the Patriots used a fair bit of caution.
There are greater questions about some of the other big X receivers even though their is potentially also greater upside with a couple of them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 10:12:42 GMT -5
David Long or Greg Little, those could be interesting names too. Any last name with Johnson in it? Boykin that would crack me up for some reason.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 26, 2019 10:15:57 GMT -5
One thing about the Harry pick is the Patriots used a fair bit of caution. There are greater questions about some of the other big x receivers even though their is potential greater upside with a couple of them. AJ Brown tested better than Harry. It will be interesting to see where brown lands. You can say brown is more explosive than Harry. Those two will be compared this upcoming season.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 26, 2019 10:17:01 GMT -5
David Long or Greg Little, those could be interesting names too. I really like Long, and he's the kind of twitchy, athletic dude that they usually target at corner... Little... I just don't like him... but get it if he's picked.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 10:19:15 GMT -5
David Long or Greg Little, those could be interesting names too. I really like Long, and he's the kind of twitchy, athletic dude that they usually target at corner... Little... I just don't like him... but get if if he's picked. Wonder how the Orchids of Asia feel about them. Long or Little. Probably best evaluators.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 26, 2019 10:22:35 GMT -5
One thing about the Harry pick is the Patriots used a fair bit of caution. There are greater questions about some of the other big x receivers even though their is potential greater upside with a couple of them. AJ Brown tested better than Harry. It will be interesting to see where brown lands. You can say brown is more explosive than Harry. Those two will be compared this upcoming season. A.J. was WR1 on my board. Meetings make a huge difference. I'm assuming that was at least a significant part of the differentiator. Also, although AJ successfully moved outside when Metcalf went down he played the majority of his time in the slot. The Patriots wanted an X. Building a team to fill roles.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 26, 2019 10:27:04 GMT -5
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 26, 2019 10:27:24 GMT -5
AJ Brown tested better than Harry. It will be interesting to see where brown lands. You can say brown is more explosive than Harry. Those two will be compared this upcoming season. What tests? There's something to be said for taller, bigger and stronger, which Harry is. Beyond that their measurables are very similar, as is their college production, and Brown had arguably the better college QB.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 10:28:49 GMT -5
If there is a team that knows about X-ratings, its this one.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 26, 2019 10:28:58 GMT -5
Gilmore, JC Jackson, Obi... we have some size already. I don't see defensive backfield as a need, but obviously BB loves him some defensive backfield.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 26, 2019 10:33:36 GMT -5
One thing about the Harry pick is the Patriots used a fair bit of caution. There are greater questions about some of the other big x receivers even though their is potential greater upside with a couple of them. AJ Brown tested better than Harry. It will be interesting to see where brown lands. You can say brown is more explosive than Harry. Those two will be compared this upcoming season. Testing was kind of a mixed bag between the two. Brown was slightly better in the 40, 3C and SS, while Harry had a slightly better VJ, and BJ... and a much better bench.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 10:38:03 GMT -5
How do you guys feel about Hardman? I know we all like Isabella, boy I really like Hardman, as a Alternate.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 26, 2019 10:40:17 GMT -5
How do you guys feel about Hardman? I know we all like Isabella, boy I really like Hardman, as a Alternate. Love Hardman... ascending talent with some bigtime juice and upside to his game. Still new to the position... and contested catches are prob a weakness at this point.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 26, 2019 10:42:14 GMT -5
If there is a team that knows about X-ratings, its this one. Kraft pulls a Dan Snyder and supersedes BB to make all X position picks for the Patriots
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