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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 27, 2019 14:02:25 GMT -5
What happened to round 5? Bleh, they should have traded ahead of the Raiders with that capital and taken the last of the good TE's... Instead we have guys that will get cut out of camp or given mystery injuries (red shirt years). I hope Jenkins is healthy and in shape. I thought he was out of shape even in college. Wished he played around 250. Hope we catch lightning in a bottle with him.
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Post by PatsRule on Apr 27, 2019 14:05:41 GMT -5
I thought we picked a DE @ 159. Too many beers. Must get one more ... For some reason cowart was listed/announced as a DE Oh well! The beer is good though. Gotta go wash one of them decks after this.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 27, 2019 14:06:57 GMT -5
I hope Jenkins is healthy and in shape. I thought he was out of shape even in college. Wished he played around 250. Hope we catch lightning in a bottle with him. He's going to have to be, though I don't think a trade for Kyle Rudolph is completely dead yet. Minny has a ton of picks, they probably don't want more this year, we may trade a next year pick for him.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 27, 2019 14:07:40 GMT -5
Pats done till end of the draft, 3 picks from last. I think.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 27, 2019 14:08:12 GMT -5
I hope Jenkins is healthy and in shape. I thought he was out of shape even in college. Wished he played around 250. Hope we catch lightning in a bottle with him. He's going to have to be, though I don't think a trade for Kyle Rudolph is completely dead yet. Minny has a ton of picks, they probably don't want more this year, we may trade a next year pick for him. Rudolph is nice. He has done a nice job but he’s not as explosive. Wouldn’t be a bad option though.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 27, 2019 14:11:48 GMT -5
Rudolph is nice. He has done a nice job but he’s not as explosive. Wouldn’t be a bad option though. He's got a lot of mileage on him but he can block and has soft hands around the end zone even if he's not fast, he's reliable. Between him, ASJ, Hollister, Izzo, Anderson and LaCosse we should be able to piece together a decent TE room. Minny might cut him outright if they can't agree on a contract extension.
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Post by PatsRule on Apr 27, 2019 14:18:21 GMT -5
Rudolph is nice. He has done a nice job but he’s not as explosive. Wouldn’t be a bad option though. He's got a lot of mileage on him but he can block and has soft hands around the end zone even if he's not fast, he's reliable. Between him, ASJ, Hollister, Izzo, Anderson and LaCosse we should be able to piece together a decent TE room. Minny might cut him outright if they can't agree on a contract extension. Maybe Bill could trade for a 7th round pick. Wait a sec - thats where we get our MVPs
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Post by portfolio1 on Apr 27, 2019 14:21:00 GMT -5
I like this draft class. I think we got some real football players. Love Harry. Love Harry. Mini Gronk. Power, quickness, moves, intensity.... throw em out of the club kinda guy. Fights for every ball. Worker. Talent. He has everything you want. He will catch the ball. He will beat his opponent. He will help you win games and championships. Love Winovich. He is the next in the lineage of Vrable- Nink. Will be better than Nink. In the good old days (!) we had great LBs and edge players. Winovich is a natural for BB. He was born to play for BB. BORN FOR IT. Perfect fit! Love this guy. Harris.... look ... I like this guy. And I think I get this pick.. Not on my radar and likely not on most people's here. But listen - from BBs mindset (not his words, mine): He is a solid runner who can be the back for downs 1 and 2 and short yardage. You say so what? We have Michel. YES WE DO! Love Michel. What Harris does is give us 2 things: a REAL backup for Michel not makeshift and a guy who will take some of the load from Michel so Michel is always fresh. Do not sleep on BB and his demand for a second option; for depth and for situational football. Remember he held on to JG. RBs get hurt. Having a real quality RB in this spot on the roster is important in INSURING we get back to the SB.... and keep those defenses honest. So I like the pick. I wont say LOVE because for love I would need to feel he has some special element in his game. But ----- I HAVE UNDERESTIMATED RBS BEFORE. Anyway, I like him. Cajuste - LOL.... Only just getting to know him... really like his ability... He is the sort of guy who we develop for a year and he ends up either a strong guy off the bench or making the next leap and being suprisingly consistent as a starter. And he has some mean in him that we need in this division as the pretenders to the south and north of us draft to try to compete with our team from 2 years ago.... ! Like this pick.... a strong player, a FOOTBALL PLAYER... a bit of mean... and a place we need more talent. Great fit. Strong player. Froholdt - Volmer in the size and form of a guard? Another tough trenches guy. Another in the long line of strong linemen that have made the Pats a dominant team. Everyone talks about BB and TB and then Gronk and Jules etc.... But look at the run of O linemen who have delivered... DELIVERED to make this team work. Only the SB in 2007 is a the glaring flaw. But year in and year out we run we pass we play we adapt to the opponent, the weather the situation... A lot of that is made doable because of this lineage. This guy is in the mold. Stidham.... I have heard for the last week a person declaring he was THE one guy we needed to take and they didnt care what round. At all. even round one. Not because it would be smart but because it would be stupid not to get him!... well, I didnt agree with the round 1 (or 2) part of it... and I am not going to tell you I love the guy... I will say he has the makings to be the prince to TB the king. Will he be good enough? I do not know.. If TB (and BB and Jules and Harry and the leaders in the locker room) get this guy to give up his life to being the most successful QB of HIS generation then he could become something like that. I remember Bart Starr... from the 60s Packers. He was the TB of his time... Like Unitas was the Peyton Manning of that time in that for a good while everyone pointed to Manning as being the best passer... Unitas never lost his status like Manning lost it to TB. But I digress... Starr was a lot like TB. Cool. efficient. Totally focused on winning and only winning. Very accurate. Great at protecting the ball. Hugely clutch. Yet no one ever said of Starr he was the best passer. Well I dont know that Stidham will ever be accused of being the best passer but he has the tools and body and now the place and staff and team to develop into that sort of WINNER - not a fantasy fan hero but a collector of rings. WE WILL SEE... Cowart - first guy that I see having real real trouble making the team... BUT... here is the thing about Cowart... he is a purely developmental player who still has promise that has not been delivered. If you like to every now and then take a flyer on a guy - for football skills not for athletic prowess - and I think football skills are much more important than clock times etc - then Cowart is the sort of guy you take. I suspect he will end up on PS. And that would be good for him and for us. Because the year of getting stronger, of learning the system, of learnking how to be a pro and more.. how to be a patriot... if that takes on him then he could be a nice guy for us in year 2. Bailey (punter) - Well, competition for Allen... Maybe he will rise to it but I am not expecting him to unseat Allen. Am I worried about TE (... Wozzy...)? Not really. Well, some concern. But I do think Jenkins will be a solid all purpose in line TE. That Izzo will give us a good 2nd blocking TE with an attitude. That Hollister could very well take the Jules trajectory to stardom! We KNOW he can catch....can he stay healthy and earn TBs trust and make that Jules move? I think he has a solid chance to do that. I would not mind seeing Ben Watson come back either.... but I do not think he lands here...
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 27, 2019 14:22:16 GMT -5
Wish we could get hunter henry from the chargers. His career will go to waste there lol.
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Post by PatsRule on Apr 27, 2019 14:27:21 GMT -5
How good is this kid. Does that mean goodbye Allen? Probably not as they just re-signed him this season. But if this kid is that good maybe he is the eventual replacement that might spend the season on the practice squad? Or you could just be taking a late fifth round flyer and he’s cut out of camp. Lol! Our MVPs come from much lower rounds. I have now been conditioned to not care about 2nd and 3rd rounders but feel bad when our 6th and 7th round don't work out.
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Post by seawolf on Apr 27, 2019 14:30:53 GMT -5
I hope Jenkins is healthy and in shape. I thought he was out of shape even in college. Wished he played around 250. Hope we catch lightning in a bottle with him. He's going to have to be, though I don't think a trade for Kyle Rudolph is completely dead yet. Minny has a ton of picks, they probably don't want more this year, we may trade a next year pick for him. His cap hit is about $7.5M - kinda steep
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Post by fanonymous on Apr 27, 2019 14:32:46 GMT -5
BB decides to grab two prospect/futures players in round five, moving up to secure them with unneeded seventh round capital
both should be able to be stashed on the PS and develop (or wait in the case of Bailey) ... might really have found something with Cowart - I'm okay with both picks
use the final option to choose your favorite UDFA and call it a day
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 27, 2019 14:33:46 GMT -5
He's going to have to be, though I don't think a trade for Kyle Rudolph is completely dead yet. Minny has a ton of picks, they probably don't want more this year, we may trade a next year pick for him. His cap hit is about $7.5M - kinda steep That’s my concern as well. I think they will roll the dice with Jenkins. I hope he’s healthy and in shape. Maybe we can get the best out of a guy who was a stud in college but that hasn’t translated in the nfl. I don’t even know if he’s in shape. What’s his current weight.
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Post by mikeod on Apr 27, 2019 14:40:45 GMT -5
How good is this kid. Does that mean goodbye Allen? Didn't pay much attention to kickers and punters with them resigning their own... but he was one of the higher rated punters in this class. Reports were that he can kick it a mile high, but direction can be a problem. Sounds a lot like last years kid that wound up in Buffalo. I think BB will prefer less height and more accuracy that Allen provides. But the competition will be good, even if the new kid is just auditioning for another team.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 27, 2019 14:42:25 GMT -5
Jacob Hollister Stephen Anderson Braxton Berrios
...big winners of this draft at the moment
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 27, 2019 14:44:53 GMT -5
Didn't pay much attention to kickers and punters with them resigning their own... but he was one of the higher rated punters in this class. Reports were that he can kick it a mile high, but direction can be a problem. Sounds a lot like last years kid that wound up in Buffalo. I think BB will prefer less height and more accuracy that Allen provides. But the competition will be good, even if the new kid is just auditioning for another team. And the competition makes sense with Allen only back on a 1 year deal. We'll see what camp yields!
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 27, 2019 14:45:31 GMT -5
What’s the deal with McCoy in tampa? Are they gonna keep him? Why has he skipped workouts? The guy’s getting older and has a made a ton of money in his career.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 27, 2019 14:45:57 GMT -5
Pats had to take Harry at #32. AZ was(confirmed) going to take him with the next pick.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 27, 2019 14:47:06 GMT -5
His cap hit is about $7.5M - kinda steep Final year contracts are all about the extension.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 27, 2019 14:52:53 GMT -5
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 27, 2019 14:59:26 GMT -5
With their final pick... I'm thinking maybe Albert Huggins or Isaac Nauta (if they're available) or maybe a potential ST stud like Drew Lewis, the LB from Colorado, or Michael Walker, the WR/KR/PR from Boston College.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 27, 2019 15:07:15 GMT -5
With their final pick... I'm thinking maybe Albert Huggins or Isaac Nauta (if they're available) or maybe a potential ST stud like Drew Lewis, the LB from Colorado, or Michael Walker, the WR/KR/PR from Boston College. Possibly, do you really need to draft Nauta? I think it would be an easy sell to a UDFA given the positional group depth. Harder to sell a guy you want that has a stacked depth chart. I would think both TE and WR are easier sells as a potential place to earn a spot if you believe in yourself as a UDFA
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 27, 2019 15:08:08 GMT -5
I know his athletic profile was a bit pedestrian, but still kinda crazy that Kelvin Harmon hasn't been picked yet. I wonder if there is some sort of medical or character thing that we're not aware of... or if his drop is tied strictly to his athletic profile?
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Post by philskiw on Apr 27, 2019 15:09:34 GMT -5
Pick 205 is it, yes?
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 27, 2019 15:10:26 GMT -5
I know his athletic profile was a bit pedestrian, but still kinda crazy that Kelvin Harmon hasn't been picked yet. I wonder if there is some sort of medical or character thing that we're not aware of... or if his drop is tied strictly to his athletic profile? I was just going to write about this. Crazy he is not being talked about on the broadcast incessantly... questioning or wondering or explaining what happened.
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