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Post by seattlepat2016 on Jan 24, 2019 0:27:03 GMT -5
>220 receptions over the past 3 years. He can separate. Decent size too.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Jan 24, 2019 0:29:51 GMT -5
He and I have the same top 2 TEs.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Jan 24, 2019 14:23:56 GMT -5
Sounds very much like a Patriots player to me... "Overall, Rapp is one of the most reliable/dependable players in this draft class."
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Post by wazzu on Jan 24, 2019 17:21:17 GMT -5
I really like DeAndre Baker, Georgia CB. I know we look pretty good at CB right now with Gilmore locked in, and the emergence of Jackson. Dawson and Crossen are wild cards at that position as well. If NE just chooses to draft BPA at 32 (yes, I'm sticking with #32...) then Baker could be in play. Check him out.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Jan 24, 2019 18:47:20 GMT -5
I really like DeAndre Baker, Georgia CB. I know we look pretty good at CB right now with Gilmore locked in, and the emergence of Jackson. Dawson and Crossen are wild cards at that position as well. If NE just chooses to draft BPA at 32 (yes, I'm sticking with #32...) then Baker could be in play. Check him out. Yeah, good player... tough and feisty. I have him as the #2 CB on my board, behind Julian Love.
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Post by fisher on Jan 24, 2019 18:51:51 GMT -5
Watched Buggs of Alabama and he was impressive... 2nd rd ?? 6'2". 295 DT and was using his hand exceptionally well..
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Jan 24, 2019 19:02:57 GMT -5
If they win the super bowl i am curious to see what will happen with gronk and guys like Hightower and DMAC.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Jan 24, 2019 19:32:37 GMT -5
Watched Buggs of Alabama and he was impressive... 2nd rd ?? 6'2". 295 DT and was using his hand exceptionally well.. The knock on him seems to be consistent effort, or lack there off... which usually means the player will not be on my board. That and poor tackling are hard no's from me. I had also read (I think) that he was one of those players that Saban might be happy is going, due to said consistency issues. At the end of the day, we know BB will get the true scoop from his buddy Nick, so maybe he ends up in NE on Day 2.
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Post by thejuice on Jan 24, 2019 21:38:43 GMT -5
If they win the super bowl i am curious to see what will happen with gronk and guys like Hightower and DMAC. Dmac and high need to either take a massive pay cut or need to be outright cut and replaced. Not worth anywhere near their salary next season. Draft their replacements
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Jan 24, 2019 21:55:35 GMT -5
If they win the super bowl i am curious to see what will happen with gronk and guys like Hightower and DMAC. Dmac and high need to either take a massive pay cut or need to be outright cut and replaced. Not worth anywhere near their salary next season. Draft their replacements Any idea how much they would save if they both get cut? I don’t know how much they making next year. Don’t know the free agents at LB either.
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Post by thejuice on Jan 24, 2019 22:05:35 GMT -5
Dmac and high need to either take a massive pay cut or need to be outright cut and replaced. Not worth anywhere near their salary next season. Draft their replacements Any idea how much they would save if they both get cut? I don’t know how much they making next year. Don’t know the free agents at LB either. High is due 10.9 mill with 5 mil in dead cap next year so a savings of basically 6 million there.... Dmac is due 13.4 next year with a dead cap of 3.9. So a 9.5 million savings. Both are still solid but not outstanding players. I’d cut both, save 15 plus million and put that towards one stud pass rusher or a couple or few very good defensive players not past their prime
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Post by jri37 on Jan 25, 2019 4:38:18 GMT -5
Any idea how much they would save if they both get cut? I don’t know how much they making next year. Don’t know the free agents at LB either. High is due 10.9 mill with 5 mil in dead cap next year so a savings of basically 6 million there.... Dmac is due 13.4 next year with a dead cap of 3.9. So a 9.5 million savings. Both are still solid but not outstanding players. I’d cut both, save 15 plus million and put that towards one stud pass rusher or a couple or few very good defensive players not past their prime While I would agree those are big numbers for both DMac and Hightower I would also say there would be a big leadership void in that locker room especially without Dmac. I don't think they can bring him back at 13.4 but IMHO he is still a smart solid leader who would be missed.
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Post by fisher on Jan 25, 2019 6:17:45 GMT -5
Based on performance only.. Not leadership or other off the field qualities, both should be restructured or be gone.. Chung has been ok near the line but no way can cover anyone anytime that he's asked to do.. DMC does have some strong points i.e. Availability and does usually tackle but has no ball awareness and is late getting involved in protecting the backend.. Chung and he are over 30 and replacements should be looked into..
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Jan 25, 2019 8:20:34 GMT -5
I think you'll see them attempt to restructure both DMC and DH.
And I really hope the draft a S early in the upcoming draft. There are potential replacements for both DMC (Nasir Adderley) and Chung (Taylor Rapp) that'll be available in the top 40 or so.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Jan 25, 2019 8:22:03 GMT -5
Any idea how much they would save if they both get cut? I don’t know how much they making next year. Don’t know the free agents at LB either. High is due 10.9 mill with 5 mil in dead cap next year so a savings of basically 6 million there.... Dmac is due 13.4 next year with a dead cap of 3.9. So a 9.5 million savings. Both are still solid but not outstanding players. I’d cut both, save 15 plus million and put that towards one stud pass rusher or a couple or few very good defensive players not past their prime Flowers is their most important FA.
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Post by michiganadam on Jan 25, 2019 8:44:44 GMT -5
There are several restructure candidates including DHT, DMC, dwayne allen, Slater, Ebner etc, and a few very important free agents: flowers, Stephen Gostkowski,Cordarrelle Patterson, Chris Hogan,Jason McCourty,Danny Shelton,Phillip Dorsett, malcom brown etc that will need decisions to keep or replace. No doubt pats will need a WR or two, TE or two, DT or two, safety, and a few line backers. Getting bentley and Winn back adds to depth as well. I'm hoping Gronk stays as long as Brady, but Dwayne Allen should probably go and be replaced with more of a gronk clone. We all know QB has got to be on the radar. Speed in the LB's and safety has got to be the biggest priority IMHO.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Jan 25, 2019 8:46:57 GMT -5
There are several restructure candidates including DHT, DMC, dwayne allen, Slater, Ebner etc, and a few very important free agents: flowers, Stephen Gostkowski,Cordarrelle Patterson, Chris Hogan,Jason McCourty,Danny Shelton,Phillip Dorsett, malcom brown etc that will need decisions to keep or replace. No doubt pats will need a WR or two, TE or two, DT or two, safety, and a few line backers. Getting bentley and Winn back adds to depth as well. I'm hoping Gronk stays as long as Brady, but Dwayne Allen should probably go and be replaced with more of a gronk clone. We all know QB has got to be on the radar. Speed in the LB's and safety has got to be the biggest priority IMHO. Brady’s cap hit next year will be around 27 million. Maybe he can give us some extra room. Who knows.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Jan 25, 2019 9:15:05 GMT -5
There are several restructure candidates including DHT, DMC, dwayne allen, Slater, Ebner etc, and a few very important free agents: flowers, Stephen Gostkowski,Cordarrelle Patterson, Chris Hogan,Jason McCourty,Danny Shelton,Phillip Dorsett, malcom brown etc that will need decisions to keep or replace. No doubt pats will need a WR or two, TE or two, DT or two, safety, and a few line backers. Getting bentley and Winn back adds to depth as well. I'm hoping Gronk stays as long as Brady, but Dwayne Allen should probably go and be replaced with more of a gronk clone. We all know QB has got to be on the radar. Speed in the LB's and safety has got to be the biggest priority IMHO. I think they'll continue to put a premium on size and instincts over speed at the LB position, at least in the early rounds. I personally can't see them doing much to retain Shelton, but feel like Patterson, Hogan and Dorsett could be relative bargains. As for outside FA's, I'd have interest in Jamison Crowder, Cole Beasley and Adam Humphries, for the right price, but would love to see them add young WR over the first few days of the draft. IF Gronk retires, I think retaining Allen could be key (unless they have grand plans for Izzo), while adding a receiving threat in the draft. This looks like a solid TE class, so they should be able to add a solid player there.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Jan 25, 2019 9:20:13 GMT -5
There are several restructure candidates including DHT, DMC, dwayne allen, Slater, Ebner etc, and a few very important free agents: flowers, Stephen Gostkowski,Cordarrelle Patterson, Chris Hogan,Jason McCourty,Danny Shelton,Phillip Dorsett, malcom brown etc that will need decisions to keep or replace. No doubt pats will need a WR or two, TE or two, DT or two, safety, and a few line backers. Getting bentley and Winn back adds to depth as well. I'm hoping Gronk stays as long as Brady, but Dwayne Allen should probably go and be replaced with more of a gronk clone. We all know QB has got to be on the radar. Speed in the LB's and safety has got to be the biggest priority IMHO. I think they'll continue to put a premium on size and instincts over speed at the LB position, at least in the early rounds. I personally can't see them doing much to retain Shelton, but feel like Patterson, Hogan and Dorsett could be relative bargains. As for outside FA's, I'd have interest in Jamison Crowder, Cole Beasley and Adam Humphries, for the right price, but would love to see them add young WR over the first few days of the draft. IF Gronk retires, I think retaining Allen could be key (unless they have grand plans for Izzo), while adding a receiving threat in the draft. This looks like a solid TE class, so they should be able to add a solid player there. I would love to retain flowers and Trent Brown. Idk how they can do that but they need to keep line together.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Jan 25, 2019 9:29:06 GMT -5
I think they'll continue to put a premium on size and instincts over speed at the LB position, at least in the early rounds. I personally can't see them doing much to retain Shelton, but feel like Patterson, Hogan and Dorsett could be relative bargains. As for outside FA's, I'd have interest in Jamison Crowder, Cole Beasley and Adam Humphries, for the right price, but would love to see them add young WR over the first few days of the draft. IF Gronk retires, I think retaining Allen could be key (unless they have grand plans for Izzo), while adding a receiving threat in the draft. This looks like a solid TE class, so they should be able to add a solid player there. I would love to retain flowers and Trent Brown. Idk how they can do that but they need to keep line together. Yeah, same. Wynn is the key here... if they feel like he's their next LT, then that would provide some financial flexibility, allowing them to allocate dollars to other positions.
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Post by thejuice on Jan 25, 2019 9:38:07 GMT -5
High is due 10.9 mill with 5 mil in dead cap next year so a savings of basically 6 million there.... Dmac is due 13.4 next year with a dead cap of 3.9. So a 9.5 million savings. Both are still solid but not outstanding players. I’d cut both, save 15 plus million and put that towards one stud pass rusher or a couple or few very good defensive players not past their prime While I would agree those are big numbers for both DMac and Hightower I would also say there would be a big leadership void in that locker room especially without Dmac. I don't think they can bring him back at 13.4 but IMHO he is still a smart solid leader who would be missed. Great point. I think one of them (probably dmac) stays at a reduced rate.
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Post by fisher on Jan 25, 2019 13:32:24 GMT -5
Was it me or are the talking heads really trying to determine who the QB's going to drafted are and almost in what order..?? It's only Jan. and there's a long way to go.
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Post by lowfbiq on Jan 25, 2019 14:04:53 GMT -5
Renfrow and Deebow running typical Patriot pivot routes down at the goal line.
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Post by lowfbiq on Jan 25, 2019 14:58:47 GMT -5
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Jan 25, 2019 15:04:47 GMT -5
Renfrow and Deebow running typical Patriot pivot routes down at the goal line. I'd consider Deebo in Rd 1 (is this the year he finally pops on a WR in that round?), perfect Patriots WR... but love him in Rd 2. Renfrow would be a fantastic addition in the middle rounds, as high-floor, low-ceiling type player that'll just do his job, and catch everything.
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