Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 0:31:24 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 12, 2019 10:32:45 GMT -5
"Taking Murray at No. 32 this year would place undue speculation on Tom Brady's retirement." Something tells me that BB will do what he thinks is best for the football team, and I can't imagine he'd care much about what the media would perceive as "under speculation on Tom Brady's retirement"... or what the media says in general, haha.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 10:37:40 GMT -5
Zolak said Murray is better then Mayfield.
|
|
|
Post by thejuice on Feb 12, 2019 10:48:54 GMT -5
"Taking Murray at No. 32 this year would place undue speculation on Tom Brady's retirement." Something tells me that BB will do what he thinks is best for the football team, and I can't imagine he'd care much about what the media would perceive as "under speculation on Tom Brady's retirement"... or what the media says in general, haha. Agreed. If that was the riders reasoning as to why it would be a bad fit in New England, that’s ludicrous.
|
|
|
Post by olemiss on Feb 12, 2019 13:02:39 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by wazzu on Feb 12, 2019 15:53:16 GMT -5
Maybe AJ. I highly doubt that NE has any interest at all in Metcalf. The guy is way to bulky for a WR, IMO. I think all that mass will hurt his speed and quickness. If you can't separate, you can't play WR for NE. I think Metcalf will have issues with separation in the NFL. No interest.
|
|
|
Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 12, 2019 16:00:42 GMT -5
Maybe AJ. I highly doubt that NE has any interest at all in Metcalf. The guy is way to bulky for a WR, IMO. I think all that mass will hurt his speed and quickness. If you can't separate, you can't play WR for NE. I think Metcalf will have issues with separation in the NFL. No interest. I generally don't pay much attention to bigger, taller WR's for the reasons that you mention above (lack of quicks, and an inability to separate quickly and/or in general) but give Metcalf a look... he's a special talent, and looks like the total package at the position. Size, speed, quicks, toughness, contested catches, route-running, etc... he can do it all, and is a bit of a freak. He has the potential to be a top 5 WR in the NFL. With that said, I don't think he'll be available at pick #32. Give me Deebo!
|
|
|
Post by wazzu on Feb 12, 2019 16:08:19 GMT -5
Maybe AJ. I highly doubt that NE has any interest at all in Metcalf. The guy is way to bulky for a WR, IMO. I think all that mass will hurt his speed and quickness. If you can't separate, you can't play WR for NE. I think Metcalf will have issues with separation in the NFL. No interest. I generally don't pay much attention to bigger, taller WR's for the reasons that you mention above (lack of quicks, and an inability to separate quickly and/or in general) but give Metcalf a look... he's a special talent, and looks like the total package at the position. Size, speed, quicks, toughness, contested catches, route-running, etc... he can do it all, and is a bit of a freak. He has the potential to be a top 5 WR in the NFL. With that said, I don't think he'll be available at pick #32. Give me Deebo! I'd WAY rather have Deebo. He's a much better fit for NE than either of the Ole Miss guys.
|
|
|
Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 12, 2019 16:21:14 GMT -5
Zolak said Murray is better then Mayfield. As a runner he certainly is (his ability to make plays with his legs is elite), but I don't think he is as a pure passer, as things stand today, despite his arm talent. Do you have a link to Zolak's commentary on the comparison? I'd def be interested in hearing it.
|
|
|
Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Feb 12, 2019 16:24:11 GMT -5
Someone’s gonna draft Murray. I doubt he falls to 32. I don’t see us taking a QB early.
|
|
|
Post by wazzu on Feb 12, 2019 16:28:55 GMT -5
Someone’s gonna draft Murray. I doubt he falls to 32. I don’t see us taking a QB early. Oh yeah, I think Murray gets drafter way before 32...probably Top 20. Bad teams love to “make a splash” in draft day. That’s perfectly fine with me. Someone else can have him ahead of NE. I think he will have size issues and I’m curious about his hand size. My guess is he goes to MIA at 13, where he will probably be mediocre at best.
|
|
|
Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 12, 2019 16:29:35 GMT -5
Someone’s gonna draft Murray. I doubt he falls to 32. I don’t see us taking a QB early. I don't see him getting to #32 either, if teams believe he's in fact fully committed to being the face of a franchise (I know he said he was).
|
|
|
Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 12, 2019 16:30:07 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by wazzu on Feb 12, 2019 16:38:07 GMT -5
I saw that mock. I like it. I’m starting to warm up to Fant more and more. He could be BB’s “Target Guy” this year.
|
|
|
Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 12, 2019 16:48:38 GMT -5
I saw that mock. I like it. I’m starting to warm up to Fant more and more. He could be BB’s “Target Guy” this year. Who would take between Fant and Irv Smith, if given the choice? Earlier on, I would've said Fant... but I now think Smith is the better fit, due to his ability in-line... and you have to love his RAC ability.
|
|
|
Post by wazzu on Feb 12, 2019 17:01:41 GMT -5
I saw that mock. I like it. I’m starting to warm up to Fant more and more. He could be BB’s “Target Guy” this year. Who would take between Fant and Irv Smith, if given the choice? Earlier on, I would've said Fant... but I now think Smith is the better fit, due to his ability in-line... and you have to love his RAC ability. Tough call. I’d go Fant. I think he’s quite a bit better as a receiver. His blocking isn’t good right now, but it can be developed. In a nutshell, I like his upside better than Smith.
|
|
|
Post by lowfbiq on Feb 12, 2019 17:42:28 GMT -5
Rounds 1 through 3 combined = 604 Rounds 4 through 7 combined = 540
|
|
|
Post by patslifer on Feb 12, 2019 18:13:49 GMT -5
I saw that mock. I like it. I’m starting to warm up to Fant more and more. He could be BB’s “Target Guy” this year. Who would take between Fant and Irv Smith, if given the choice? Earlier on, I would've said Fant... but I now think Smith is the better fit, due to his ability in-line... and you have to love his RAC ability. I'd go Smith for the reasons you mention.
|
|
|
Post by seattlepat2016 on Feb 12, 2019 21:28:31 GMT -5
Rounds 1 through 3 combined = 604 Rounds 4 through 7 combined = 540 I am not sure if that is very insightful. Isn't the pool of players who were picked in R1-3 and R4-7 smaller than the pool of players who were picked up undrafted? I know you are just relaying the data, but I do wonder what that would look like as %'s of the respective pools.
|
|
|
Post by seattlepat2016 on Feb 12, 2019 21:39:55 GMT -5
Who would take between Fant and Irv Smith, if given the choice? Earlier on, I would've said Fant... but I now think Smith is the better fit, due to his ability in-line... and you have to love his RAC ability. I'd go Smith for the reasons you mention. I just am really impressed with Irv Smith's footwork. He has the best of the top 3 TE prospects. Most TEs over 6-3 are long striders. Smith is fast because his stride rate is fast and choppy. That means he can be more explosive and can change direction more sharply than the typical TE. If I had never seen what Gronk is like, I actually would prefer Smith over Hockenson. In this class, Hockenson happens to be the closest guy to Gronk.
|
|
|
Post by thejuice on Feb 12, 2019 22:34:20 GMT -5
I'd go Smith for the reasons you mention. I just am really impressed with Irv Smith's footwork. He has the best of the top 3 TE prospects. Most TEs over 6-3 are long striders. Smith is fast because his stride rate is fast and choppy. That means he can be more explosive and can change direction more sharply than the typical TE. If I had never seen what Gronk is like, I actually would prefer Smith over Hockenson. In this class, Hockenson happens to be the closest guy to Gronk. If we end up with one of smith or hockenson I’ll be a very very happy man
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:56:05 GMT -5
DE, with a Flowers maybe gone, I hope not. Joe Jackson looks pretty good. Pretty athletic kid.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 12:16:03 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by patslifer on Feb 13, 2019 13:22:49 GMT -5
I'd go Smith for the reasons you mention. I just am really impressed with Irv Smith's footwork. He has the best of the top 3 TE prospects. Most TEs over 6-3 are long striders. Smith is fast because his stride rate is fast and choppy. That means he can be more explosive and can change direction more sharply than the typical TE. If I had never seen what Gronk is like, I actually would prefer Smith over Hockenson. In this class, Hockenson happens to be the closest guy to Gronk. I like Hockenson more because I think he is generally a better all around prospect than Smith is at the moment. Smith does have great footwork, and I love the way he moves in the open field after the catch. He's fast, quick and has power. Good route runner. I wouldn't be disappointed if we drafted him. He's my 2nd favorite TE after Hockenson.
|
|
|
Post by wazzu on Feb 13, 2019 13:31:13 GMT -5
Drafttek just put out their latest mock. It's pretty amazing for NE. 32) Byron Murphy CB UW 56) Irv Smith Jr TE Bama 64) Deebo Samuel WR S. Car 73) TJ Edwards LB Wisconsin
They don't include Comp Picks until they are official. What an amazing haul that would be!
|
|