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Post by quagmire3 on Apr 6, 2019 7:51:49 GMT -5
agree, would LOVE that haul!
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Post by wazzu on Apr 6, 2019 7:58:32 GMT -5
I've continued to look for justifications to take Rapp early (Rd 1 or 2), but even Jordan Richards ran 4.65... and he had a better 3C. With that said, was Rapp was a better college player than Richards, and I didn't feel like Rapp play almost 4.8 slow... so that'd be my reasoning. Raap is a far superior player to Richards in many ways. Raap is very instinctive for the position. He seems to move laterally well and he plays close to the line effectively. Still, though, in today’s NFL, having a safety on the field who is that slow is going to be a liability at times. It’s just the nature of the game.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 6, 2019 8:08:21 GMT -5
Question to all....
Rapp's 40 time opens up an interesting question... who is your #1 safety... or which safety would you select first, if you had to take one over the first two rounds?
For me, it's:
1A. Amani Hooker- Iowa 1B. Darnell Savage Jr.- Maryland
I view both as versatile, instinctive, experienced players that can run, cover, and tackle... and both fit the physical athletic profile of a NE safety, under BB.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 6, 2019 8:12:56 GMT -5
Question to all.... Rapp's 40 time opens up an interesting question... who is your #1 safety... or which safety would you select first, if you had to take one over the first two rounds? For me, it's: 1A. Amani Hooker- Iowa 1B. Darnell Savage Jr.- Maryland I view both as versatile, instinctive, experienced players that can run, cover, and tackle... and both fit the physical athletic profile of a NE safety, under BB. I like Savage slightly better, but both players would fit very well in NE. I’d be very happy with either guy.
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Post by patslifer on Apr 6, 2019 8:31:08 GMT -5
Question to all.... Rapp's 40 time opens up an interesting question... who is your #1 safety... or which safety would you select first, if you had to take one over the first two rounds? For me, it's: 1A. Amani Hooker- Iowa 1B. Darnell Savage Jr.- Maryland I view both as versatile, instinctive, experienced players that can run, cover, and tackle... and both fit the physical athletic profile of a NE safety, under BB. Over the 1st 2 rounds I have; 1a. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson 1b. Amani Hooker Honestly, I have Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Abrams, Hooker all grouped together, really not separated by much. I think Johnson and Hooker represent the 2 most versatile safeties in the Pats early range that are plus run defenders (in the box play), as well as, can thrive high or in some type of zone coverage. I think each can also man up on RBs and TE's pretty effectively. Savage is intriguing. His instincts, ability to read QB, and ability to play in zone are very good. I wish I knew more about what Obi would / could become. I remember a lot of us pretty high on Obi when he came out, thinking he could develop into a Chancellor-esque type of Safety with his rare size & athleticism. What's exciting is I remember a not too distant past where our secondary was a liability. It seems we have a talented and deep bench at the moment and if we can find a way to seamlessly go from Chung/McCourty to the next gen guys, we'll be good to go.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 6, 2019 8:35:14 GMT -5
Question to all.... Rapp's 40 time opens up an interesting question... who is your #1 safety... or which safety would you select first, if you had to take one over the first two rounds? For me, it's: 1A. Amani Hooker- Iowa 1B. Darnell Savage Jr.- Maryland I view both as versatile, instinctive, experienced players that can run, cover, and tackle... and both fit the physical athletic profile of a NE safety, under BB. Over the 1st 2 rounds I have; 1a. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson 1b. Amani Hooker Honestly, I have Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Abrams, Hooker all grouped together, really not separated by much. I think Johnson and Hooker represent the 2 most versatile safeties in the Pats early range that are plus run defenders (in the box play), as well as, can thrive high or in some type of zone coverage. I think each can also man up on RBs and TE's pretty effectively. I wish I knew more about what Obi would / could become. I remember a lot of us pretty high on Obi when he came out, thinking he could develop into a Chancellor-esque type of Safety with his rare size & athleticism. What's exciting is I remember a not too distant past where our secondary was a liability. It seems we have a talented and deep bench at the moment and if we can find a way to seamlessly go from Chung/McCourty to the next gen guys, we'll be good to go. Good post. Yeah, I agree Gardner-Johnson is my #1 Safety at this point. You’re right, our secondary is a major strength right now and that’s a beautiful thing. Belichick will continue to add talent if the opportunity presents itself. I also agree that Obi is a big time sleeper and I’m interested in his future
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 6, 2019 8:56:21 GMT -5
Question to all.... Rapp's 40 time opens up an interesting question... who is your #1 safety... or which safety would you select first, if you had to take one over the first two rounds? For me, it's: 1A. Amani Hooker- Iowa 1B. Darnell Savage Jr.- Maryland I view both as versatile, instinctive, experienced players that can run, cover, and tackle... and both fit the physical athletic profile of a NE safety, under BB. Over the 1st 2 rounds I have; 1a. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson 1b. Amani Hooker Honestly, I have Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Abrams, Hooker all grouped together, really not separated by much. I think Johnson and Hooker represent the 2 most versatile safeties in the Pats early range that are plus run defenders (in the box play), as well as, can thrive high or in some type of zone coverage. I think each can also man up on RBs and TE's pretty effectively. Savage is intriguing. His instincts, ability to read QB, and ability to play in zone are very good. I wish I knew more about what Obi would / could become. I remember a lot of us pretty high on Obi when he came out, thinking he could develop into a Chancellor-esque type of Safety with his rare size & athleticism. What's exciting is I remember a not too distant past where our secondary was a liability. It seems we have a talented and deep bench at the moment and if we can find a way to seamlessly go from Chung/McCourty to the next gen guys, we'll be good to go. I agree that there are prob 6 or 7 safeties that are grouped quite closely together and all could be off the board by the end of Day 2. This could be a make or break year for Obi, as he's on team #2, and this will be year #3. I also seem to remember him being more athlete than instincts, so there's a chance that he never plays a significant role in the secondary, but it'll be interesting to see what he does this year. Agree, the secondary is very good... with a mix of youth and experience... and with the % of snaps that they play their safeties, we want to ensure a smooth transition to the next guys.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 6, 2019 9:48:09 GMT -5
The “Movin’ Up For Hock” Mock...
NE trades 32, 64, and 101 to MIN for #18 & #120
#18. TJ Hockenson. TE. Iowa. Hockenson is just a very good all-around TE. He comes from a fantastic program at Iowa and he is pro ready. He will be a Day 1 starter and fill a big hole in NE’s roster. He’s no Gronk, but no one is. What he is is a very good all around player and a likely future pro bowl player. I have Belichick being aggressive to move one spot ahead of Vrabel to nab him in this projection.
NE trades #56 & #252 to SF for #67 & #104
#67. Andy Isabella. WR. UMass. Isabella has the skillet to go higher, but at the end of the day I think the fact that he’s 5’9 will scare some teams off in the 2nd Rnd. His height won’t bother Belichick a bit. He’s a perfect fit in NE.
#73. Amani Hooker. S. Iowa. Hooker is another seemingly great fit. He’s built to play in the box, at 210 lbs, and has sneaky speed for a guy his size. I think Belichick trusts the coaching that these guys receive at Iowa, and I think Hooker could be a versatile piece in the secondary and a future Chung replacement.
#96. Bobby Evans. OL. Oklahoma. Evans is probably too slow to be a full time Tackle in the NFL, but he’s truly got pro bowl potential as an interior O-Lineman. He’s long, strong, and nasty as hell. Thuney’s time in NE may be short, and I could see Belichick being interested in keeping the O-Line pipeline strong.
#104. Miles Boykin. WR. Notre Dame. Freak athlete at 6’4 220. Boykin underwhelmed on the field in College, but he’s worth a flier at #104. Massive project with tremendous potential.
NE trades #120 and #246 to AZ for #139 & #179
#134. Ben Bagonu. OLB TCU. This is the point in the draft where I think BB can really start to take advantage of the Edge depth of this class. Some very good Edge players are going to slide to this point due to the sheer depth of the position. Bagonu has a nice blend of strength and burst. He’s 6’3 250 so he may spend some time standing up as well as spend 3rd Downs with his hand in the dirt as a pass rusher. He’s versatile in a kind of a Ninkovich way. I think he’s probably a guy who Belichick is eyeing.
#139. Clayton Thorson. QB. Northwestern. I don’t love this QB class as a whole, but I do think a guy like Thorson has a lot of traits that will appeal to Belichick. Thorson did a lot with some mediocre talent around him at NW. He’s got a good arm and build at 6’4 220. He’s been lauded as a leader and is said to be very receptive to coaching. It wouldn’t hurt to throw him into the QB room and see how things shake out.
#174. NE trades #174 #243 to CLE for #170
#170. Carl Granderson. Edge. Wyoming. Granderson is a very good athlete on the Edge with room for an easy 10-15 more lbs. He’s pretty raw coming from Wyoming and needs a lot of technique work, but at this point in the draft his physical skills are worth the risk. I have Belichick jumping up a few spots to snag him before the Giants have a chance to.
#205. Jonathan Ledbetter. DL. Georgia. Ledbetter is 6’4 280, kind of a tweener. He’s very physical and smart, though. He doesn’t back down from anyone and I think he’s a versatile player who can play anywhere on the D-Line. I think he would fit right in in NE.
#239. Jordan Miller. CB. UW. I covered Miller earlier. He caught my eye at times during the season, and I also noticed him while watching Raap’s film. He’s a good cover guy. A year on the PS wouldn’t hurt because he looks pretty light, but I like his skills on the outside.
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Post by texaspat on Apr 6, 2019 10:30:16 GMT -5
The “Movin’ Up For Hock” Mock... NE trades 32, 64, and 101 to MIN for #18 & #120 #18. TJ Hockenson. TE. Iowa. Hockenson is just a very good all-around TE. He comes from a fantastic program at Iowa and he is pro ready. He will be a Day 1 starter and fill a big hole in NE’s roster. He’s no Gronk, but no one is. What he is is a very good all around player and a likely future pro bowl player. I have Belichick being aggressive to move one spot ahead of Vrabel to nab him in this projection. NE trades #56 & #252 to SF for #67 & #104 #67. Andy Isabella. WR. UMass. Isabella has the skillet to go higher, but at the end of the day I think the fact that he’s 5’9 will scare some teams off in the 2nd Rnd. His height won’t bother Belichick a bit. He’s a perfect fit in NE. #73. Amani Hooker. S. Iowa. Hooker is another seemingly great fit. He’s built to play in the box, at 210 lbs, and has sneaky speed for a guy his size. I think Belichick trusts the coaching that these guys receive at Iowa, and I think Hooker could be a versatile piece in the secondary and a future Chung replacement. #96. Bobby Evans. OL. Oklahoma. Evans is probably too slow to be a full time Tackle in the NFL, but he’s truly got pro bowl potential as an interior O-Lineman. He’s long, strong, and nasty as hell. Thuney’s time in NE may be short, and I could see Belichick being interested in keeping the O-Line pipeline strong. #104. Miles Boykin. WR. Notre Dame. Freak athlete at 6’4 220. Boykin underwhelmed on the field in College, but he’s worth a flier at #104. Massive project with tremendous potential. NE trades #120 and #246 to AZ for #139 & #179 #134. Ben Bagonu. OLB TCU. This is the point in the draft where I think BB can really start to take advantage of the Edge depth of this class. Some very good Edge players are going to slide to this point due to the sheer depth of the position. Bagonu has a nice blend of strength and burst. He’s 6’3 250 so he may spend some time standing up as well as spend 3rd Downs with his hand in the dirt as a pass rusher. He’s versatile in a kind of a Ninkovich way. I think he’s probably a guy who Belichick is eyeing. #139. Clayton Thorson. QB. Northwestern. I don’t love this QB class as a whole, but I do think a guy like Thorson has a lot of traits that will appeal to Belichick. Thorson did a lot with some mediocre talent around him at NW. He’s got a good arm and build at 6’4 220. He’s been lauded as a leader and is said to be very receptive to coaching. It wouldn’t hurt to throw him into the QB room and see how things shake out. #174. NE trades #174 #243 to CLE for #170 #170. Carl Granderson. Edge. Wyoming. Granderson is a very good athlete on the Edge with room for an easy 10-15 more lbs. He’s pretty raw coming from Wyoming and needs a lot of technique work, but at this point in the draft his physical skills are worth the risk. I have Belichick jumping up a few spots to snag him before the Giants have a chance to. #205. Jonathan Ledbetter. DL. Georgia. Ledbetter is 6’4 280, kind of a tweener. He’s very physical and smart, though. He doesn’t back down from anyone and I think he’s a versatile player who can play anywhere on the D-Line. I think he would fit right in in NE. #239. Jordan Miller. CB. UW. I covered Miller earlier. He caught my eye at times during the season, and I also noticed him while watching Raap’s film. He’s a good cover guy. A year on the PS wouldn’t hurt because he looks pretty light, but I like his skills on the outside. I think I'd pass on the "moving up for Hock" idea, oh Great One. First off, Hock has been projected to go as high as #12 overall to Green Bay. Secondly, I don't think he's worth trading up for, in light of New England's many other needs. But, we'll see. With BB calling the shots, anything is possible. It wouldn't surprise me if the Pat's double-dip at the TE position. I agree with your assessment on QB Clayton Thorson. He has the qualities to be molded into a very good NFL quarterback over time. The question is...when should the Patriots pull the trigger on him? I think somewhere in the late third to fourth round area, just as you have projected, is spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 10:35:29 GMT -5
I think Green Bay passes on TJ, goes D-Line, and picks Fant at 30. That team needs a lot of help on Defense. If their guy is gone I think they might even Trade down a bit. You allow 25 points a game, it better start thinking about Defense.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 6, 2019 10:43:44 GMT -5
MB what is your list of players that were "testing" surprises. Positively or negatively. Just players whos testing mismatched film.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 6, 2019 11:03:32 GMT -5
MB what is your list of players that were "testing" surprises. Positively or negatively. Just players whos testing mismatched film. Rapp is a good start. Didn't think he was blazing fast, but don't see high 4.7 either, I guess. Nauta didn't look nearly as slow or unathletic as he tested... same goes for Holyfield. Also, I like Juan Thornhill, and would be a buyer on Day 2, but I don't necessarily see the elite athleticism that he showed at the Combine... same goes for Miles Boykin. And Irv Smith Jr. didn't look like the relatively uninspiring athlete that he tested out as.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 6, 2019 11:22:34 GMT -5
On Hockenson, yeah, he could go top 10. It wouldn’t shock me, but I don’t think he will. I think that’s a little too rich for him. Yeah, GB is a definite threat to take him at 12. They could easily go Defense, though. If he gets past GB at 12, there’s a decent chance he slides to Tennessee at 19. I don’t think they would pass on him there. That’s why I projected NE to jump Tennessee and move up to 18.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 6, 2019 11:28:24 GMT -5
Draft visit updates can get kinda hilarious this time of year... "Player X met with team Y, and the feeling out of [insert location) is, they're either interested in the player, or it's a smokescreen and they're just trying to gather intel."
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Post by thejuice on Apr 6, 2019 12:12:59 GMT -5
The “Movin’ Up For Hock” Mock... NE trades 32, 64, and 101 to MIN for #18 & #120 #18. TJ Hockenson. TE. Iowa. Hockenson is just a very good all-around TE. He comes from a fantastic program at Iowa and he is pro ready. He will be a Day 1 starter and fill a big hole in NE’s roster. He’s no Gronk, but no one is. What he is is a very good all around player and a likely future pro bowl player. I have Belichick being aggressive to move one spot ahead of Vrabel to nab him in this projection. NE trades #56 & #252 to SF for #67 & #104 #67. Andy Isabella. WR. UMass. Isabella has the skillet to go higher, but at the end of the day I think the fact that he’s 5’9 will scare some teams off in the 2nd Rnd. His height won’t bother Belichick a bit. He’s a perfect fit in NE. #73. Amani Hooker. S. Iowa. Hooker is another seemingly great fit. He’s built to play in the box, at 210 lbs, and has sneaky speed for a guy his size. I think Belichick trusts the coaching that these guys receive at Iowa, and I think Hooker could be a versatile piece in the secondary and a future Chung replacement. #96. Bobby Evans. OL. Oklahoma. Evans is probably too slow to be a full time Tackle in the NFL, but he’s truly got pro bowl potential as an interior O-Lineman. He’s long, strong, and nasty as hell. Thuney’s time in NE may be short, and I could see Belichick being interested in keeping the O-Line pipeline strong. #104. Miles Boykin. WR. Notre Dame. Freak athlete at 6’4 220. Boykin underwhelmed on the field in College, but he’s worth a flier at #104. Massive project with tremendous potential. NE trades #120 and #246 to AZ for #139 & #179 #134. Ben Bagonu. OLB TCU. This is the point in the draft where I think BB can really start to take advantage of the Edge depth of this class. Some very good Edge players are going to slide to this point due to the sheer depth of the position. Bagonu has a nice blend of strength and burst. He’s 6’3 250 so he may spend some time standing up as well as spend 3rd Downs with his hand in the dirt as a pass rusher. He’s versatile in a kind of a Ninkovich way. I think he’s probably a guy who Belichick is eyeing. #139. Clayton Thorson. QB. Northwestern. I don’t love this QB class as a whole, but I do think a guy like Thorson has a lot of traits that will appeal to Belichick. Thorson did a lot with some mediocre talent around him at NW. He’s got a good arm and build at 6’4 220. He’s been lauded as a leader and is said to be very receptive to coaching. It wouldn’t hurt to throw him into the QB room and see how things shake out. #174. NE trades #174 #243 to CLE for #170 #170. Carl Granderson. Edge. Wyoming. Granderson is a very good athlete on the Edge with room for an easy 10-15 more lbs. He’s pretty raw coming from Wyoming and needs a lot of technique work, but at this point in the draft his physical skills are worth the risk. I have Belichick jumping up a few spots to snag him before the Giants have a chance to. #205. Jonathan Ledbetter. DL. Georgia. Ledbetter is 6’4 280, kind of a tweener. He’s very physical and smart, though. He doesn’t back down from anyone and I think he’s a versatile player who can play anywhere on the D-Line. I think he would fit right in in NE. #239. Jordan Miller. CB. UW. I covered Miller earlier. He caught my eye at times during the season, and I also noticed him while watching Raap’s film. He’s a good cover guy. A year on the PS wouldn’t hurt because he looks pretty light, but I like his skills on the outside. I’d be very happy with this draft
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Post by portfolio1 on Apr 6, 2019 12:17:55 GMT -5
The “Movin’ Up For Hock” Mock... NE trades 32, 64, and 101 to MIN for #18 & #120 #18. TJ Hockenson. TE. Iowa. Hockenson is just a very good all-around TE. He comes from a fantastic program at Iowa and he is pro ready. He will be a Day 1 starter and fill a big hole in NE’s roster. He’s no Gronk, but no one is. What he is is a very good all around player and a likely future pro bowl player. I have Belichick being aggressive to move one spot ahead of Vrabel to nab him in this projection. NE trades #56 & #252 to SF for #67 & #104 #67. Andy Isabella. WR. UMass. Isabella has the skillet to go higher, but at the end of the day I think the fact that he’s 5’9 will scare some teams off in the 2nd Rnd. His height won’t bother Belichick a bit. He’s a perfect fit in NE. #73. Amani Hooker. S. Iowa. Hooker is another seemingly great fit. He’s built to play in the box, at 210 lbs, and has sneaky speed for a guy his size. I think Belichick trusts the coaching that these guys receive at Iowa, and I think Hooker could be a versatile piece in the secondary and a future Chung replacement. #96. Bobby Evans. OL. Oklahoma. Evans is probably too slow to be a full time Tackle in the NFL, but he’s truly got pro bowl potential as an interior O-Lineman. He’s long, strong, and nasty as hell. Thuney’s time in NE may be short, and I could see Belichick being interested in keeping the O-Line pipeline strong. #104. Miles Boykin. WR. Notre Dame. Freak athlete at 6’4 220. Boykin underwhelmed on the field in College, but he’s worth a flier at #104. Massive project with tremendous potential. NE trades #120 and #246 to AZ for #139 & #179 #134. Ben Bagonu. OLB TCU. This is the point in the draft where I think BB can really start to take advantage of the Edge depth of this class. Some very good Edge players are going to slide to this point due to the sheer depth of the position. Bagonu has a nice blend of strength and burst. He’s 6’3 250 so he may spend some time standing up as well as spend 3rd Downs with his hand in the dirt as a pass rusher. He’s versatile in a kind of a Ninkovich way. I think he’s probably a guy who Belichick is eyeing. #139. Clayton Thorson. QB. Northwestern. I don’t love this QB class as a whole, but I do think a guy like Thorson has a lot of traits that will appeal to Belichick. Thorson did a lot with some mediocre talent around him at NW. He’s got a good arm and build at 6’4 220. He’s been lauded as a leader and is said to be very receptive to coaching. It wouldn’t hurt to throw him into the QB room and see how things shake out. #174. NE trades #174 #243 to CLE for #170 #170. Carl Granderson. Edge. Wyoming. Granderson is a very good athlete on the Edge with room for an easy 10-15 more lbs. He’s pretty raw coming from Wyoming and needs a lot of technique work, but at this point in the draft his physical skills are worth the risk. I have Belichick jumping up a few spots to snag him before the Giants have a chance to. #205. Jonathan Ledbetter. DL. Georgia. Ledbetter is 6’4 280, kind of a tweener. He’s very physical and smart, though. He doesn’t back down from anyone and I think he’s a versatile player who can play anywhere on the D-Line. I think he would fit right in in NE. #239. Jordan Miller. CB. UW. I covered Miller earlier. He caught my eye at times during the season, and I also noticed him while watching Raap’s film. He’s a good cover guy. A year on the PS wouldn’t hurt because he looks pretty light, but I like his skills on the outside. Well, you got me excited. Did you run this by Bill? Is it in the bag?
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Post by wazzu on Apr 6, 2019 12:31:26 GMT -5
The “Movin’ Up For Hock” Mock... NE trades 32, 64, and 101 to MIN for #18 & #120 #18. TJ Hockenson. TE. Iowa. Hockenson is just a very good all-around TE. He comes from a fantastic program at Iowa and he is pro ready. He will be a Day 1 starter and fill a big hole in NE’s roster. He’s no Gronk, but no one is. What he is is a very good all around player and a likely future pro bowl player. I have Belichick being aggressive to move one spot ahead of Vrabel to nab him in this projection. NE trades #56 & #252 to SF for #67 & #104 #67. Andy Isabella. WR. UMass. Isabella has the skillet to go higher, but at the end of the day I think the fact that he’s 5’9 will scare some teams off in the 2nd Rnd. His height won’t bother Belichick a bit. He’s a perfect fit in NE. #73. Amani Hooker. S. Iowa. Hooker is another seemingly great fit. He’s built to play in the box, at 210 lbs, and has sneaky speed for a guy his size. I think Belichick trusts the coaching that these guys receive at Iowa, and I think Hooker could be a versatile piece in the secondary and a future Chung replacement. #96. Bobby Evans. OL. Oklahoma. Evans is probably too slow to be a full time Tackle in the NFL, but he’s truly got pro bowl potential as an interior O-Lineman. He’s long, strong, and nasty as hell. Thuney’s time in NE may be short, and I could see Belichick being interested in keeping the O-Line pipeline strong. #104. Miles Boykin. WR. Notre Dame. Freak athlete at 6’4 220. Boykin underwhelmed on the field in College, but he’s worth a flier at #104. Massive project with tremendous potential. NE trades #120 and #246 to AZ for #139 & #179 #134. Ben Bagonu. OLB TCU. This is the point in the draft where I think BB can really start to take advantage of the Edge depth of this class. Some very good Edge players are going to slide to this point due to the sheer depth of the position. Bagonu has a nice blend of strength and burst. He’s 6’3 250 so he may spend some time standing up as well as spend 3rd Downs with his hand in the dirt as a pass rusher. He’s versatile in a kind of a Ninkovich way. I think he’s probably a guy who Belichick is eyeing. #139. Clayton Thorson. QB. Northwestern. I don’t love this QB class as a whole, but I do think a guy like Thorson has a lot of traits that will appeal to Belichick. Thorson did a lot with some mediocre talent around him at NW. He’s got a good arm and build at 6’4 220. He’s been lauded as a leader and is said to be very receptive to coaching. It wouldn’t hurt to throw him into the QB room and see how things shake out. #174. NE trades #174 #243 to CLE for #170 #170. Carl Granderson. Edge. Wyoming. Granderson is a very good athlete on the Edge with room for an easy 10-15 more lbs. He’s pretty raw coming from Wyoming and needs a lot of technique work, but at this point in the draft his physical skills are worth the risk. I have Belichick jumping up a few spots to snag him before the Giants have a chance to. #205. Jonathan Ledbetter. DL. Georgia. Ledbetter is 6’4 280, kind of a tweener. He’s very physical and smart, though. He doesn’t back down from anyone and I think he’s a versatile player who can play anywhere on the D-Line. I think he would fit right in in NE. #239. Jordan Miller. CB. UW. I covered Miller earlier. He caught my eye at times during the season, and I also noticed him while watching Raap’s film. He’s a good cover guy. A year on the PS wouldn’t hurt because he looks pretty light, but I like his skills on the outside. Well, you got me excited. Did you run this by Bill? Is it in the bag? Yep. I ran it by him. In the bag. This is the final answer. Lol
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 6, 2019 15:05:47 GMT -5
Interesting prospect... good find!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 19:10:51 GMT -5
With so many picks in the 1st 3 rounds I think it’s almost a lock that they will trade one for a future 2nd round pick in 2020.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 6, 2019 21:48:00 GMT -5
That time of year?
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 7, 2019 6:17:37 GMT -5
Haha, yeah. And even if he's not the 2nd QB taken, he'll be what? The 3rd? And still in top 15-20ish? Or, you know what? Good... let him fall to NE at #32. Then the rest of the owners can claim NE cheated, and Goodell can step in and take the pick away, along with the rest of their Day 2 picks... Dwaynegate.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 7, 2019 8:35:20 GMT -5
Haha, yeah. And even if he's not the 2nd QB taken, he'll be what? The 3rd? And still in top 15-20ish? Or, you know what? Good... let him fall to NE at #32. Then the rest of the owners can claim NE cheated, and Goodell can step in and take the pick away, along with the rest of their Day 2 picks... Dwaynegate. I don’t like this QB class at all. Murray seems to be locked in to #1 (I think it’s crazy, but it’s not my problem.) Haskins is probably still the #2 QB in my eyes. I see a decent chance at him being a bust, but maybe he could be adequate. I think Lock is a bust in the making. I don’t like Lock at all
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Post by jjdbrasil on Apr 7, 2019 8:37:08 GMT -5
Round 1 Pick 32: Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, FS, Florida Round 2 Pick 24: Charles Omenihu, DE, Texas Round 2 Pick 32: Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M Round 3 Pick 9: Mecole Hardman, WR, Georgia Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP): Max Scharping, OT, N. Illinois Round 3 Pick 37 (COMP): Ryan Finley, QB, NC State Round 4 Pick 32: Kahale Warring, TE, San Diego St. Round 6 Pick 32 (COMP): Ed Alexander, DT, LSU Round 7 Pick 25: Antoine Wesley, WR, Texas Tech Round 7 Pick 29: Martez Ivey, OT, Florida Round 7 Pick 32: Derick Roberson, OLB/DE, Sam Houston State Round 7 Pick 38 (COMP): Darrin Hall, RB, Pittsburgh
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 7, 2019 8:50:23 GMT -5
Haha, yeah. And even if he's not the 2nd QB taken, he'll be what? The 3rd? And still in top 15-20ish? Or, you know what? Good... let him fall to NE at #32. Then the rest of the owners can claim NE cheated, and Goodell can step in and take the pick away, along with the rest of their Day 2 picks... Dwaynegate. I don’t like this QB class at all. Murray seems to be locked in to #1 (I think it’s crazy, but it’s not my problem.) Haskins is probably still the #2 QB in my eyes. I see a decent chance at him being a bust, but maybe he could be adequate. I think Lock is a bust in the making. I don’t like Lock at all I'm not really a fan of this QB class as a whole either. With Haskins, I think he has all the tools to be a good NFL QB, and he seems like a smart, good dude off the field... that really loves the game, so I think that could help his acclimation.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 7, 2019 9:10:11 GMT -5
Here’s a few draft questions for you all to get the juices flowing on this rainy (in Central Washington, anyway) Sunday morning. Most are Patriots related, a few are just regarding this draft class in general.
Which prospect is “Most Likely to be drafted by NE” at ANY POINT during the draft?
Which player from this entire class will be the biggest bust?
Which player from this entire class will have the best career?
Which highly rated player (consensus top 50 or so) that you have seen linked to NE do you absolutely not want Belichick to draft?
How many picks do you think Belichick will actually make in this draft (NE is currently slotted with 12).
Which projected top 50 player (roughly) will far the farthest in this class?
Who is this year’s “workout warrior” that you want no part of?
Who is this year’s “bad workout guy” that you think will have an excellent career?
Gut feeling. Who will be the first player drafted by NE regardless of whether they trade up, stay put, or trade back?
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