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Post by backbay on Mar 25, 2024 9:08:39 GMT -5
I picked OT, but I hope they make trade(s) to end up with multiple 1st round picks and get OT and QB. so, a trade w/ Minnesota? Except they don't have any picks in 2nd or 3rd round this year. |
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Post by backbay on Mar 25, 2024 9:09:53 GMT -5
I'd prefer that the Pats draft and develop their own busts rather than rehab someone else's. haha....like McDorkle......lol |
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Post by freediro on Mar 25, 2024 9:16:49 GMT -5
Anything can happen with this years draft, but my biggest fear that would lead to massive regret for years, would be this scenario.
We trade the #3 overall, get a HUGE haul, we draft a QB later in the draft this year or next year. Half of these picks we get turn out to help the team and the QB we have is competitive for 5-10 years but ultimately we never even make it to a AFC championship game let alone a SB.
During that time we watch Daniel’s/Maye take the league by storm, win MVPs make it to the SB and all around turn another team into an exciting and perennial SB contender.
Sure, we could get a haul and it could make the team better, but if we pass on a league changing franchise QB that goes on to be successful for another team for years to come, it’s gonna be painful.
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Post by ATJ on Mar 25, 2024 10:19:40 GMT -5
Anything can happen with this years draft, but my biggest fear that would lead to massive regret for years, would be this scenario. We trade the #3 overall, get a HUGE haul, we draft a QB later in the draft this year or next year. Half of these picks we get turn out to help the team and the QB we have is competitive for 5-10 years but ultimately we never even make it to a AFC championship game let alone a SB. During that time we watch Daniel’s/Maye take the league by storm, win MVPs make it to the SB and all around turn another team into an exciting and perennial SB contender. Sure, we could get a haul and it could make the team better, but if we pass on a league changing franchise QB that goes on to be successful for another team for years to come, it’s gonna be painful. If the collaborative believes that the guy available to them at #3 is THE GUY, then they should simply take him. |
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Post by freediro on Mar 25, 2024 10:39:15 GMT -5
Anything can happen with this years draft, but my biggest fear that would lead to massive regret for years, would be this scenario. We trade the #3 overall, get a HUGE haul, we draft a QB later in the draft this year or next year. Half of these picks we get turn out to help the team and the QB we have is competitive for 5-10 years but ultimately we never even make it to a AFC championship game let alone a SB. During that time we watch Daniel’s/Maye take the league by storm, win MVPs make it to the SB and all around turn another team into an exciting and perennial SB contender. Sure, we could get a haul and it could make the team better, but if we pass on a league changing franchise QB that goes on to be successful for another team for years to come, it’s gonna be painful. If the collaborative believes that the guy available to them at #3 is THE GUY, then they should simply take him. I agree, if Daniels, Maye or JJ is the guy they believe in and will actually construct an offense and scheme around his skills. Then, I don’t care what the trade haul is, you have to take the guy. |
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Post by TFB12 on Mar 25, 2024 11:36:13 GMT -5
JJ.... because Harbaugh said so! Haha!!
Seriously, I read and hear a lot of the JJ comparisons to Zac Wilson, but get it.. I can see some of it too but I just like how he plays the game. Smart, big arm, added some size, can scramble and run when needed, he's a winner. If I had to pick today, I take JJ. It almost seems like people are pushing Maye as the safe choice. Swing Big, Mayo... swing big!!
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Mar 25, 2024 12:55:29 GMT -5
JJ.... because Harbaugh said so! Haha!! Seriously, I read and hear a lot of the JJ comparisons to Zac Wilson, but get it.. I can see some of it too but I just like how he plays the game. Smart, big arm, added some size, can scramble and run when needed, he's a winner. If I had to pick today, I take JJ. It almost seems like people are pushing Maye as the safe choice. Swing Big, Mayo... swing big!! This is why comps are a fallacy to me, you can turn the player into whatever you want. One guy can say, "I don't want him because he reminds me of Zach Wilson", and in response the other can say "well, I like him because he reminds me of a more athletic Jared Goff (believe that's a Breer take)." |
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Post by carawaydj on Mar 25, 2024 13:13:50 GMT -5
JJ.... because Harbaugh said so! Haha!! Seriously, I read and hear a lot of the JJ comparisons to Zac Wilson, but get it.. I can see some of it too but I just like how he plays the game. Smart, big arm, added some size, can scramble and run when needed, he's a winner. If I had to pick today, I take JJ. It almost seems like people are pushing Maye as the safe choice. Swing Big, Mayo... swing big!! Maye isn't really a safe choice. None of them are. Peyton Manning is not in this draft. I think the NFL is in love with QBs with exceptional physical tools. I get it but don't get it at the same time. I'll sound like a broken record, but if every QB with the physical tools could have their shortcomings fixed the NFL would be chock full of good QBs. JJ has plenty good enough physical tools to play in the NFL. Between he and Maye I'll take the guy with the intangibles. If I have to hope I can fix something with a QB I'll take my chances on the guy with better intangibles…and that would be JJ. I think we have some decent talent evaluators on our staff now. MacAdoo in particular has supposedly been mostly money on assessing QBs. I'll defer to their judgment. However, if this draft only produces one franchise QB and that guy is gone by #3 it doesn't matter what we do. |
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Post by michiganadam on Mar 25, 2024 13:19:53 GMT -5
I picked OT, but I hope they make trade(s) to end up with multiple 1st round picks and get OT and QB. so, a trade w/ Minnesota? Except they don't have any picks in 2nd or 3rd round this year. Hence the (s) in trade. It might take more than one trade...trade down, gain picks, use those picks to move back up into the 1st. I'd hate to use 34 to do it, but if trade was for say 6...gain their second and 1st in 2025 for 3...then use that second and 1st next year to get pick 25ish as an example. get QB and OT, then draft WR with 34... |
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Post by fisher on Mar 25, 2024 19:51:59 GMT -5
And when fields isn’t the guy, then what? He hasn’t been the MAN so far? Justin has had 3 different OCs in 3 years. Does that factor into equation at all? Plus, he's only 25 your right and it does ,, but the OC’s didn’t throw for 40 tds or 30 ints…. That may be his ceiling |
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Post by DaPatriots on Mar 26, 2024 8:18:27 GMT -5
Anything can happen with this years draft, but my biggest fear that would lead to massive regret for years, would be this scenario. We trade the #3 overall, get a HUGE haul, we draft a QB later in the draft this year or next year. Half of these picks we get turn out to help the team and the QB we have is competitive for 5-10 years but ultimately we never even make it to a AFC championship game let alone a SB. During that time we watch Daniel’s/Maye take the league by storm, win MVPs make it to the SB and all around turn another team into an exciting and perennial SB contender. Sure, we could get a haul and it could make the team better, but if we pass on a league changing franchise QB that goes on to be successful for another team for years to come, it’s gonna be painful. Quantity over Quality does not work to fill PREMIUM positions like QB/Punter/Kicker/CB/OT/Edge So trading away a #3 level QB for a level #34 QB might be a tough sledding. |
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Post by negame on Mar 26, 2024 8:35:57 GMT -5
Reading Commanders taking JJ at #2
So now what, Daniels or Maye at #3
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Post by patsfan2007 on Mar 26, 2024 8:52:19 GMT -5
If JJM were a meme stock, its ticker symbol would be MAMULA.  |
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Post by freediro on Mar 26, 2024 9:58:21 GMT -5
Reading Commanders taking JJ at #2 So now what, Daniels or Maye at #3 It’s a great problem to have! |
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Post by section136 on Mar 26, 2024 11:14:53 GMT -5
I voted for McCarthy but who I would pick means shyte. I don't have the experience, tools or access that Wolf & company have, so who am I to tell them what I would do or judge them for that matter - time will tell. This is a fun exercise and I participated because - what else are rabid fans supposed to do this time of year? It passes the time until we get to see what actually happens.
I can tell you with a degree of certainty what I don't want them to do. I don't want them to pick a position, no matter how important the position is. I don't want them to think about value when they fix what was wrong with the blocking and protection last year. And I don't want them to think - at all - about the impact a pick will have on fan reaction.
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Post by backbay on Mar 26, 2024 12:45:48 GMT -5
so, a trade w/ Minnesota? Except they don't have any picks in 2nd or 3rd round this year. Hence the (s) in trade. It might take more than one trade...trade down, gain picks, use those picks to move back up into the 1st. I'd hate to use 34 to do it, but if trade was for say 6...gain their second and 1st in 2025 for 3...then use that second and 1st next year to get pick 25ish as an example. get QB and OT, then draft WR with 34... Well, Minnie has two first round picks this year; and none in 2nd or 3rd round. Just my opinion that the #3 for Minnie's #11 and #23 isn't good enough.
I'd rather have the Giants #6, #47, and #70 for our #3. That would give us 5 picks in the first 3 rounds.
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Post by backbay on Mar 26, 2024 12:49:46 GMT -5
I voted for McCarthy but who I would pick means shyte. I don't have the experience, tools or access that Wolf & company have, so who am I to tell them what I would do or judge them for that matter - time will tell. This is a fun exercise and I participated because - what else are rabid fans supposed to do this time of year? It passes the time until we get to see what actually happens. I can tell you with a degree of certainty what I don't want them to do. I don't want them to pick a position, no matter how important the position is. I don't want them to think about value when they fix what was wrong with the blocking and protection last year. And I don't want them to think - at all - about the impact a pick will have on fan reaction. yes. 1 more month of posts that don't mean shyte....lol 
so, pats should simply pick best player on the board regardless of draft pick #?
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Post by DaPatriots on Mar 26, 2024 12:50:49 GMT -5
Hence the (s) in trade. It might take more than one trade...trade down, gain picks, use those picks to move back up into the 1st. I'd hate to use 34 to do it, but if trade was for say 6...gain their second and 1st in 2025 for 3...then use that second and 1st next year to get pick 25ish as an example. get QB and OT, then draft WR with 34... Well, Minnie has two first round picks this year; and none in 2nd or 3rd round. Just my opinion that the #3 for Minnie's #11 and #23 isn't good enough.
I'd rather have the Giants #6, #47, and #70 for our #3. That would give us 5 picks in the first 3 rounds.
Hell yes bro! The best way to go if Jayden Daniels is gone by 3. Daniels hand size is 9 5/8. Not bad. |
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Post by backbay on Mar 26, 2024 12:52:08 GMT -5
Reading Commanders taking JJ at #2 So now what, Daniels or Maye at #3 It’s a great problem to have! if that ends up happening, both are very different players. Who would play better in the cold weather of NE? |
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Post by freediro on Mar 26, 2024 12:55:12 GMT -5
It’s a great problem to have! if that ends up happening, both are very different players. Who would play better in the cold weather of NE? definitely Maye. My bigger concern is do we already have an offensive scheme set or will that be determined based on the QB we draft? |
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Post by ATJ on Mar 26, 2024 13:41:32 GMT -5
if that ends up happening, both are very different players. Who would play better in the cold weather of NE? definitely Maye. My bigger concern is do we already have an offensive scheme set or will that be determined based on the QB we draft? Yes |
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Post by backbay on Mar 26, 2024 14:03:06 GMT -5
definitely Maye. My bigger concern is do we already have an offensive scheme set or will that be determined based on the QB we draft? Yes A better questions is whether we will have a top 10 OL after draft and before the season begins  doesn't matter much who is at QB if Patriots can't pass protect and run block well.
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Post by ATJ on Mar 26, 2024 14:29:11 GMT -5
A better questions is whether we will have a top 10 OL after draft and before the season begins doesn't matter much who is at QB if Patriots can't pass protect and run block well.
Perhaps yes, perhaps no |
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Post by michiganadam on Mar 27, 2024 8:06:51 GMT -5
Hence the (s) in trade. It might take more than one trade...trade down, gain picks, use those picks to move back up into the 1st. I'd hate to use 34 to do it, but if trade was for say 6...gain their second and 1st in 2025 for 3...then use that second and 1st next year to get pick 25ish as an example. get QB and OT, then draft WR with 34... Well, Minnie has two first round picks this year; and none in 2nd or 3rd round. Just my opinion that the #3 for Minnie's #11 and #23 isn't good enough.
I'd rather have the Giants #6, #47, and #70 for our #3. That would give us 5 picks in the first 3 rounds.
I'd rather trade 3 for ^ and the picks you mentioned, and then trade 6 for 11, 23, and 2025 1st. from Vikings, then trade 47, 70, and 2025 1st for like pick 15. Then you could end up with a top 4 WR, QB, and OT all in 1st round and get CB, TE, or DT with pick 34...If the draft fell right like the ones I tried, Pats could end up with TE Bowers at 11, OT Fautanu at 15, QB MPJ at 23, and WR Adonai Mitchell at 34. and only used proceeds of trade down and the pats 4th to get there. No future picks. I'd be pretty happy with that. |
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Post by backbay on Mar 27, 2024 8:38:30 GMT -5
Well, Minnie has two first round picks this year; and none in 2nd or 3rd round. Just my opinion that the #3 for Minnie's #11 and #23 isn't good enough.
I'd rather have the Giants #6, #47, and #70 for our #3. That would give us 5 picks in the first 3 rounds.
I'd rather trade 3 for ^ and the picks you mentioned, and then trade 6 for 11, 23, and 2025 1st. from Vikings, then trade 47, 70, and 2025 1st for like pick 15. Then you could end up with a top 4 WR, QB, and OT all in 1st round and get CB, TE, or DT with pick 34...If the draft fell right like the ones I tried, Pats could end up with TE Bowers at 11, OT Fautanu at 15, QB MPJ at 23, and WR Adonai Mitchell at 34. and only used proceeds of trade down and the pats 4th to get there. No future picks. I'd be pretty happy with that. sounds good to me! Hopefully, all the cards will fall into place and the stars will align just so.......lol |
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