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Post by oklahomapatriot on Oct 11, 2021 17:45:25 GMT -5
I like this but Mac probably doesn't care, he's looking at the coaches like give me the Herbert plays so we can win
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Post by prairiemike on Oct 11, 2021 20:13:02 GMT -5
You can't draw the correlations between teams or weeks. Every week/matchup is entirely its own thing. Who ever executes well and plays error free will have the best chance of winning the game/matchup. Yes I realize I am stating the obvious. This right here^. The NFL, more than any other elite athletic endeavor, is about match-ups and preparation. I've said this before, but football is a metaphor for war. Ground acquisition through the use of limited resources. How can I best use what I have to exploit what you don't have? The Pats are a marginal team in the weaker conference. The Cowboys are the poster boys for hype. Always have been. Oh! You beat Blue New Jersey? I'm terrified. The Pats will hang, and if Mr. Jones can limit mistakes while also being bold (If wishes were horses, right?), they might win. My biggest problem with this match-up is that it's not in Dallas ... which means we won't get to see the only thing about the Cowboys anybody really likes.
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Post by patsfan2007 on Oct 11, 2021 20:29:26 GMT -5
Dallas might have the most complete team in the NFL right now, especially on offense.
Quality and depth at RB, WR, TE. Dak is playing well as a passer.
I see a lot of zone on defense, since we don't have the horses to man up with Dallas' skill position players. Maybe put JC on Cooper.
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Post by prairiemike on Oct 11, 2021 20:49:01 GMT -5
Dallas might have the most complete team in the NFL right now, especially on offense. Quality and depth at RB, WR, TE. Dak is playing well as a passer. I see a lot of zone on defense, since we don't have the horses to man up with Dallas' skill position players. Maybe put JC on Cooper. Who else besides me is interested in r ockylanding's response to this^ ?
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Post by patsfan2007 on Oct 11, 2021 21:07:35 GMT -5
Dallas might have the most complete team in the NFL right now, especially on offense. Quality and depth at RB, WR, TE. Dak is playing well as a passer. I see a lot of zone on defense, since we don't have the horses to man up with Dallas' skill position players. Maybe put JC on Cooper. Who else besides me is interested in r ockylanding's response to this^ ? ?
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Post by prairiemike on Oct 11, 2021 21:08:58 GMT -5
Who else besides me is interested in r ockylanding's response to this^ ? ? rocky is a Bills' fan.
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Post by patsfan2007 on Oct 11, 2021 21:14:02 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the Bill's do make a great case.
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Post by rkarp on Oct 12, 2021 8:31:37 GMT -5
I got the sense the Pats were throwing sh*t against the wall at CB last week to see what sticks. WIlliams, Bryant. next week we most likely see Wade while WIlliams sits. Think we saw the same at RB. STevenson, JJT and Bolden. who wants it? who can hang on to the ball will play.
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Post by prairiemike on Oct 12, 2021 9:06:05 GMT -5
I got the sense the Pats were throwing sh*t against the wall at CB last week to see what sticks. WIlliams, Bryant. next week we most likely see Wade while WIlliams sits. Think we saw the same at RB. STevenson, JJT and Bolden. who wants it? who can hang on to the ball will play. So .. . you "got the sense" that the team is trying to determine which players can (or will) be most effective in their proscribed roles? Wow! You're a genius.
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Post by rkarp on Oct 12, 2021 18:16:27 GMT -5
I got the sense the Pats were throwing sh*t against the wall at CB last week to see what sticks. WIlliams, Bryant. next week we most likely see Wade while WIlliams sits. Think we saw the same at RB. STevenson, JJT and Bolden. who wants it? who can hang on to the ball will play. So .. . you "got the sense" that the team is trying to determine which players can (or will) be most effective in their proscribed roles? Wow! You're a genius. I don't think any of them have a role yet. Williams especially would not surprise to see him out. he has floundered every opportunity he has been given. I am glad you think I am a genius. You should post some football thoughts too! its a forum to express football thoughts. have any?
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Post by backbay on Oct 13, 2021 14:13:33 GMT -5
You can't draw the correlations between teams or weeks. Every week/matchup is entirely its own thing. Who ever executes well and plays error free will have the best chance of winning the game/matchup. Yes I realize I am stating the obvious. This right here^. The NFL, more than any other elite athletic endeavor, is about match-ups and preparation. I've said this before, but football is a metaphor for war. Ground acquisition through the use of limited resources. How can I best use what I have to exploit what you don't have? The Pats are a marginal team in the weaker conference. The Cowboys are the poster boys for hype. Always have been. Oh! You beat Blue New Jersey? I'm terrified. The Pats will hang, and if Mr. Jones can limit mistakes while also being bold (If wishes were horses, right?), they might win. My biggest problem with this match-up is that it's not in Dallas ... which means we won't get to see the only thing about the Cowboys anybody really likes.
So, what is everyone's take on matchups:
Pat's O vs. Dallas D Dallas O vs. Pat's D and ST?
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Post by lowfbiq on Oct 13, 2021 15:18:39 GMT -5
Wed report
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Post by TrueChamp on Oct 13, 2021 15:48:22 GMT -5
This right here^. The NFL, more than any other elite athletic endeavor, is about match-ups and preparation. I've said this before, but football is a metaphor for war. Ground acquisition through the use of limited resources. How can I best use what I have to exploit what you don't have? The Pats are a marginal team in the weaker conference. The Cowboys are the poster boys for hype. Always have been. Oh! You beat Blue New Jersey? I'm terrified. The Pats will hang, and if Mr. Jones can limit mistakes while also being bold (If wishes were horses, right?), they might win. My biggest problem with this match-up is that it's not in Dallas ... which means we won't get to see the only thing about the Cowboys anybody really likes.
So, what is everyone's take on matchups:
Pat's O vs. Dallas D Dallas O vs. Pat's D and ST?
I think our D is about to have a real problem unfortunately. Dak is playing brilliant football. Their O line is back to elite, as is Zeke. Hopefully Amari Copper is still gimpy from last week. Lamb is nasty and their TE has become a real problem. But I also think our offense will actually keep up! Mac can pick these guys apart and hopefully we can start running the ball again.
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Post by rkarp on Oct 13, 2021 15:52:56 GMT -5
So, what is everyone's take on matchups:
Pat's O vs. Dallas D Dallas O vs. Pat's D and ST?
I think our D is about to have a real problem unfortunately. Dak is playing brilliant football. Their O line is back to elite, as is Zeke. Hopefully Amari Copper is still gimpy from last week. Lamb is nasty and their TE has become a real problem. But I also think our offense will actually keep up! Mac can pick these guys apart and hopefully we can start running the ball again. I have seen Dallas a couple of times so far. Dak was playing off the wall last season prior to injury. Parsons and Diggs look very good. I think the team can take Lamb out of the game. not sure they can take out both Lamb and Cooper if he is healthy
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Post by backbay on Oct 13, 2021 18:51:06 GMT -5
So, what is everyone's take on matchups:
Pat's O vs. Dallas D Dallas O vs. Pat's D and ST?
I think our D is about to have a real problem unfortunately. Dak is playing brilliant football. Their O line is back to elite, as is Zeke. Hopefully Amari Copper is still gimpy from last week. Lamb is nasty and their TE has become a real problem. But I also think our offense will actually keep up! Mac can pick these guys apart and hopefully we can start running the ball again. We do need to run more effectively. Harris did not practice today. I don't think he will suit up on SUN. Stephenson and Bolden to get most touches?
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Post by jri37 on Oct 13, 2021 18:52:00 GMT -5
I think our D is about to have a real problem unfortunately. Dak is playing brilliant football. Their O line is back to elite, as is Zeke. Hopefully Amari Copper is still gimpy from last week. Lamb is nasty and their TE has become a real problem. But I also think our offense will actually keep up! Mac can pick these guys apart and hopefully we can start running the ball again. We do need to run more effectively. Harris did not practice today. I don't think he will suit up on SUN. Stephenson and Bolden to get most touches? I think JJ Taylor might play a bigger role on 3rd downs.
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Post by oklahomapatriot on Oct 13, 2021 19:01:08 GMT -5
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Post by TFB12 on Oct 13, 2021 21:17:14 GMT -5
WTF Ty Law?
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 13, 2021 21:21:19 GMT -5
WTF Ty Law? It's his mesmerizing smile. I'm telling you that is it.
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Post by backbay on Oct 14, 2021 8:14:55 GMT -5
Dallas might have the most complete team in the NFL right now, especially on offense. Quality and depth at RB, WR, TE. Dak is playing well as a passer. I see a lot of zone on defense, since we don't have the horses to man up with Dallas' skill position players. Maybe put JC on Cooper. on paper, seems we are outmatched on defensive side vs. Dallas Off. Unsure if Patriots offense can put up enough points; especially w/ Red Zone woes. Defense need to step up; whether playing zone or man-to-man - and keep game close - to give Mac and Offense a chance to win.
Looking forward to see what BB dials up on defensive side of ball.
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Post by backbay on Oct 14, 2021 8:17:19 GMT -5
We do need to run more effectively. Harris did not practice today. I don't think he will suit up on SUN. Stephenson and Bolden to get most touches? I think JJ Taylor might play a bigger role on 3rd downs. All three need contribute. Taylor hasn't done much with his limited opportunities.
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Post by lowfbiq on Oct 14, 2021 9:14:45 GMT -5
WTF Ty Law? Come on now we are talking about a guy who said he never understood why BB took the team to see the Endurance movie the summer before the 2001 Superbowl season. A retelling of Sir Ernest Shackleton 's ill-fated expedition to Antarctica in 1914-1916. I'd tell you he's not the sharpest knife in the draw but he also gave us this so.... Then again its self serving as he played defense and saying the other thing means he was near worthless to that endeavor. So apparently smarter than Revis in that regard who said the opposite. A whole lot of pro football players really are DUMB. Thank god for their god given supreme athletic abilities. Shit I heard Shannon Sharp the other day say on his show he did not understand why Mike Shanahan always yelled at him and his teammates when they did something wrong even though the play was successful, until some years later after he was out of football. Then he got it, finally.
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Post by thejuice on Oct 14, 2021 10:23:04 GMT -5
I think JJ Taylor might play a bigger role on 3rd downs. All three need contribute. Taylor hasn't done much with his limited opportunities. He looked Good when given a chance actually…but you can’t fumble or else to the doghouse you go
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Post by TrueChamp on Oct 14, 2021 13:11:01 GMT -5
Looks like Harris Mason and Owenu could be back! Need to get the run game going and protect Mac Daddy.
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Post by rockylanding on Oct 14, 2021 14:08:49 GMT -5
Dallas might have the most complete team in the NFL right now, especially on offense. Quality and depth at RB, WR, TE. Dak is playing well as a passer. I see a lot of zone on defense, since we don't have the horses to man up with Dallas' skill position players. Maybe put JC on Cooper. Who else besides me is interested in r ockylanding's response to this^ ? Well, the proof is in the pudding, as they say. The Bills currently have the highest scoring offense, and the number one defense in the league. As a relatively small market team, we're used to being mostly ignored by the national media-- and honestly most fans are fine with that. While around 65% of bets in Vegas went to the Bills, very few pundits gave us a chance against the Chiefs. And now that the Bills stomped them, many pundits are turning to the Chargers, and Cowboys as the new media favorites.
But, a decent argument can certainly be made that the Cowboys have a more complete team-- but not by much. Both offenses are rolling, and the areas that many thought the Bills would be deficient (RB, TE, O-line) have outperformed expectations. I'll take Allen over Prescott all day. I'll also take the Bills WRs, especially in regards to depth. TE Dawson Knox, through all five games this season, has emerged as a legit, stud TE. And the Bills O-line has gotten better every week.
But, it's really the Cowboy's running game that would be the strongest argument for them being a more complete team. The Bills have improved in that regard-- especially w/r/t the O-line-- but we don't have anyone to compare to Elliot, and that facet of their game is a hallmark of their offense. They clearly run a more balanced offensive scheme than the Bills.
However, no one in their right mind would argue that the Bills don't have a complete defense. The Cowboys do have Stephon Digg's baby brother leading the league in interceptions. But, the Bills D is playing lights out in every aspect. It's really hard to find a weakness. They've dealt two shutouts, and made Mahomes look downright pedestrian. They carry 10 D-linesmen on gameday, who split snaps almost evenly. LBs are solid, and the backfield as a unit, may be the best in the league.
If there is a weakness to the Bills D, it might be in stopping the run. We haven't really gotten a good test of that yet, but we are certainly going to this coming Monday night against Derrick Henry, and the Titans.
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