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Post by ATJ on Mar 24, 2024 4:33:14 GMT -5
I'm 'hearing'/reading a great deal about how JJM's draft stock is on the rise and there seems to be a great deal of interest in him in this forum. On the other hand, I've seen mocks of Drake Maye going anywhere from 1st overall to 3rd. I must confess that I was (and still am) in the Maye camp but I'm not locked in on it. What say the board on one vs the other?
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Post by fisher on Mar 24, 2024 4:47:24 GMT -5
Maye,,,then Daniela and JJM
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Post by mthurl on Mar 24, 2024 6:08:34 GMT -5
I would select Maye over McCarthy, not sure about Daniels. It appears as if Maye is gaining momentum again after things I’ve read, watched, listened to on the radio…all of the sudden talking heads that were down on him have dramatically changed their minds (Phil Perry being the latest this week). None of it matters now, it’s all a lot of lying and misinformation flowing into these people’s ears and trickling down into ours. Personally I’ve been a fan of Maye’s all along, but I’ve also been a fan of McCarthy’s. As for Daniels, I initially thought he was highly overrated, but I’ve since changed my mind a lot on him. He’s much better than I gave him credit for. Bottom line…the Patriots have a chance to draft a franchise QB, if they pass on that opportunity I think they’re nuts (and I’m already leaning towards thinking they are nuts after watching this off season “spending spree”).
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Mar 24, 2024 6:53:45 GMT -5
I'll be excited about any QB they have conviction enough to draft at #3.
That said, this is my order of preference:
JJ McCarthy
Jayden Daniels
Drake Maye
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Post by wazzu on Mar 24, 2024 8:20:22 GMT -5
I'll be excited about any QB they have conviction enough to draft at #3. That said, this is my order of preference: JJ McCarthy Jayden Daniels Drake Maye I agree with this. I’d rank them Maye, McCarthy, Daniels, but I’d be excited about any of them. |
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Post by thehub on Mar 24, 2024 8:24:39 GMT -5
I'll be excited about any QB they have conviction enough to draft at #3. That said, this is my order of preference: JJ McCarthy Jayden Daniels Drake Maye I agree with this. I’d rank them Maye, McCarthy, Daniels, but I’d be excited about any of them. My list: Maye - best upside of the three. Easier to coach pocket passers Daniels - book or bust - better have the right coaching JJM - will be in the league a long time. Low ceiling. If you take JJM I would try and slide back and get him BUT that is looking less likely at this point. We may see 4 straight QBs. |
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Post by carawaydj on Mar 24, 2024 8:53:01 GMT -5
I would select Maye over McCarthy, not sure about Daniels. It appears as if Maye is gaining momentum again after things I’ve read, watched, listened to on the radio…all of the sudden talking heads that were down on him have dramatically changed their minds (Phil Perry being the latest this week). None of it matters now, it’s all a lot of lying and misinformation flowing into these people’s ears and trickling down into ours. Personally I’ve been a fan of Maye’s all along, but I’ve also been a fan of McCarthy’s. As for Daniels, I initially thought he was highly overrated, but I’ve since changed my mind a lot on him. He’s much better than I gave him credit for. Bottom line… the Patriots have a chance to draft a franchise QB, if they pass on that opportunity I think they’re nuts (and I’m already leaning towards thinking they are nuts after watching this off season “spending spree”). We don't know that yet. We don't even know if this draft will produce a franchise QB. The 2021 draft draft produced one good QB, and I'm not sure we can call him a "franchise" QB yet. As for our personnel staff… On the one hand I think we have a couple new guys very good at evaluating players. On the other hand I'm starting to wonder if the guys that took over orchestrated a coup and were actually a good part of our recent problems. |
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Post by ucmiami on Mar 24, 2024 11:21:13 GMT -5
I love the talk of 'gaining momentum' especially with QBs in the run up to the draft. While the media is just getting around to actually looking at these guys pro teams have 15+/- guys whose only job is to study college prospects, as well as connections to the coaching staffs of 100 +/- college teams. And teams that do not have a Mahomes type young QB have put in 1000s of hours on evaluating these 6 QBs (and similar time on the next six over the last two years.) Momentum has little to do with that evaluation process, and except for guys with a meteoric rise in production in their final year (like Daniels) there aren't a lot of surprises.
Now GMs, HCs, OCs, and owners may be spending the first quality time looking at the prospects after their season ended, but one hopes they aren't being influenced by 'momentum' but by careful evaluation of their scouting department reports with the added influence of team preferences in style of play. (Hopefully the scouting department already has a handle on those preferences when the management/coaching is stable something that is not true for the Pats at the moment.)
If you were to get the real scoop on SF and their disastrous decisions in 2021, first to trade up, and then to pick Lance, I suspect you would find momentum to be a big part of their process.
And if you look back at the 2022 draft, the predictions pre-draft were all about QBs and most mocks had 4-5 QBs drafted in round 1 and 2-3 in the top 10. Lots of QB desperate teams. And momentum did not creep into the draft rooms - Pitt breaking the ice at #20 with Pickett and the next two being drafted in the third round. And Mr Irrelevant being the most productive to date.
I think this draft has better prospects, but I suspect even with the usual cadre of QB desperate teams, the ranking of QBs at the end of the college season is going to be closer to reality. Williams and Maye in the top 5, Daniels in the top 15, and JJ, Nix, and Penix in some order dispersed through the first and second round. If it follows the 2021 pattern with 5 in the first 15, there are going to be 3 or 4 teams draft a new QB within a couple of years.
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Post by patsfan2007 on Mar 24, 2024 12:11:34 GMT -5
I love the talk of 'gaining momentum' especially with QBs in the run up to the draft. While the media is just getting around to actually looking at these guys pro teams have 15+/- guys whose only job is to study college prospects, as well as connections to the coaching staffs of 100 +/- college teams. And teams that do not have a Mahomes type young QB have put in 1000s of hours on evaluating these 6 QBs (and similar time on the next six over the last two years.) Momentum has little to do with that evaluation process, and except for guys with a meteoric rise in production in their final year (like Daniels) there aren't a lot of surprises. Now GMs, HCs, OCs, and owners may be spending the first quality time looking at the prospects after their season ended, but one hopes they aren't being influenced by 'momentum' but by careful evaluation of their scouting department reports with the added influence of team preferences in style of play. (Hopefully the scouting department already has a handle on those preferences when the management/coaching is stable something that is not true for the Pats at the moment.) If you were to get the real scoop on SF and their disastrous decisions in 2021, first to trade up, and then to pick Lance, I suspect you would find momentum to be a big part of their process. And if you look back at the 2022 draft, the predictions pre-draft were all about QBs and most mocks had 4-5 QBs drafted in round 1 and 2-3 in the top 10. Lots of QB desperate teams. And momentum did not creep into the draft rooms - Pitt breaking the ice at #20 with Pickett and the next two being drafted in the third round. And Mr Irrelevant being the most productive to date. I think this draft has better prospects, but I suspect even with the usual cadre of QB desperate teams, the ranking of QBs at the end of the college season is going to be closer to reality. Williams and Maye in the top 5, Daniels in the top 15, and JJ, Nix, and Penix in some order dispersed through the first and second round. If it follows the 2021 pattern with 5 in the first 15, there are going to be 3 or 4 teams draft a new QB within a couple of years. Good post. Very reasonable and based on what has transpired, rather than on "momentum" or other foolish things.
What I have learned over the years is that if you draft a guy that has experienced great "momentum" over the last months of the draft.....SMH.....it will not end well....
Remember: buy low, sell high. It's not buy high, sell low.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Mar 24, 2024 12:20:53 GMT -5
I love the talk of 'gaining momentum' especially with QBs in the run up to the draft. While the media is just getting around to actually looking at these guys pro teams have 15+/- guys whose only job is to study college prospects, as well as connections to the coaching staffs of 100 +/- college teams. And teams that do not have a Mahomes type young QB have put in 1000s of hours on evaluating these 6 QBs (and similar time on the next six over the last two years.) Momentum has little to do with that evaluation process, and except for guys with a meteoric rise in production in their final year (like Daniels) there aren't a lot of surprises. Now GMs, HCs, OCs, and owners may be spending the first quality time looking at the prospects after their season ended, but one hopes they aren't being influenced by 'momentum' but by careful evaluation of their scouting department reports with the added influence of team preferences in style of play. (Hopefully the scouting department already has a handle on those preferences when the management/coaching is stable something that is not true for the Pats at the moment.) If you were to get the real scoop on SF and their disastrous decisions in 2021, first to trade up, and then to pick Lance, I suspect you would find momentum to be a big part of their process. And if you look back at the 2022 draft, the predictions pre-draft were all about QBs and most mocks had 4-5 QBs drafted in round 1 and 2-3 in the top 10. Lots of QB desperate teams. And momentum did not creep into the draft rooms - Pitt breaking the ice at #20 with Pickett and the next two being drafted in the third round. And Mr Irrelevant being the most productive to date. I think this draft has better prospects, but I suspect even with the usual cadre of QB desperate teams, the ranking of QBs at the end of the college season is going to be closer to reality. Williams and Maye in the top 5, Daniels in the top 15, and JJ, Nix, and Penix in some order dispersed through the first and second round. If it follows the 2021 pattern with 5 in the first 15, there are going to be 3 or 4 teams draft a new QB within a couple of years. Good post. Very reasonable and based on what has transpired, rather than on "momentum" or other foolish things.
What I have learned over the years is that if you draft a guy that has experienced great "momentum" over the last months of the draft.....SMH.....it will not end well....
Remember: buy low, sell high. It's not buy high, sell low.
Momentum where though? It's been reported for quite a while that scouts were higher on JJM than the mainstream analysts and talking heads. So, he could have already been high on teams boards, and now the mainstream is following suit to stay on trend, or to appear in the know... or to not be the outlier. |
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Post by ucmiami on Mar 24, 2024 12:34:45 GMT -5
Good post. Very reasonable and based on what has transpired, rather than on "momentum" or other foolish things.
What I have learned over the years is that if you draft a guy that has experienced great "momentum" over the last months of the draft.....SMH.....it will not end well....
Remember: buy low, sell high. It's not buy high, sell low.
Momentum where though? It's been reported for quite a while that scouts were higher on JJM than the mainstream analysts and talking heads. So, he could have already been high on teams boards, and now the mainstream is following suit to stay on trend, or to appear in the know... or to not be the outlier. Yeah, but those 'reports' ... where are they coming from? I distrust that stuff, because there are very few 'report' sources that do not have an agenda. And how often do multiple 'reports' trace back to a single source, and then get picked up by five, ten, 100 other bloggers/reporters/sources. |
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Post by wazzu on Mar 24, 2024 12:36:23 GMT -5
I love the talk of 'gaining momentum' especially with QBs in the run up to the draft. While the media is just getting around to actually looking at these guys pro teams have 15+/- guys whose only job is to study college prospects, as well as connections to the coaching staffs of 100 +/- college teams. And teams that do not have a Mahomes type young QB have put in 1000s of hours on evaluating these 6 QBs (and similar time on the next six over the last two years.) Momentum has little to do with that evaluation process, and except for guys with a meteoric rise in production in their final year (like Daniels) there aren't a lot of surprises. Now GMs, HCs, OCs, and owners may be spending the first quality time looking at the prospects after their season ended, but one hopes they aren't being influenced by 'momentum' but by careful evaluation of their scouting department reports with the added influence of team preferences in style of play. (Hopefully the scouting department already has a handle on those preferences when the management/coaching is stable something that is not true for the Pats at the moment.) If you were to get the real scoop on SF and their disastrous decisions in 2021, first to trade up, and then to pick Lance, I suspect you would find momentum to be a big part of their process. And if you look back at the 2022 draft, the predictions pre-draft were all about QBs and most mocks had 4-5 QBs drafted in round 1 and 2-3 in the top 10. Lots of QB desperate teams. And momentum did not creep into the draft rooms - Pitt breaking the ice at #20 with Pickett and the next two being drafted in the third round. And Mr Irrelevant being the most productive to date. I think this draft has better prospects, but I suspect even with the usual cadre of QB desperate teams, the ranking of QBs at the end of the college season is going to be closer to reality. Williams and Maye in the top 5, Daniels in the top 15, and JJ, Nix, and Penix in some order dispersed through the first and second round. If it follows the 2021 pattern with 5 in the first 15, there are going to be 3 or 4 teams draft a new QB within a couple of years. Good post. Very reasonable and based on what has transpired, rather than on "momentum" or other foolish things.
What I have learned over the years is that if you draft a guy that has experienced great "momentum" over the last months of the draft.....SMH.....it will not end well....
Remember: buy low, sell high. It's not buy high, sell low.
In a lot of ways I agree with this. I’ve often felt that the best idea you have about these guys is right after the season before the draft process begins. I feel like all the analyzing these guys to death often clouds the bottom line of how good of players they are. |
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Post by patsfan2007 on Mar 24, 2024 12:52:46 GMT -5
Good post. Very reasonable and based on what has transpired, rather than on "momentum" or other foolish things.
What I have learned over the years is that if you draft a guy that has experienced great "momentum" over the last months of the draft.....SMH.....it will not end well....
Remember: buy low, sell high. It's not buy high, sell low.
Momentum where though? It's been reported for quite a while that scouts were higher on JJM than the mainstream analysts and talking heads. So, he could have already been high on teams boards, and now the mainstream is following suit to stay on trend, or to appear in the know... or to not be the outlier. ucmiami said well.
Media reports or "analysis" should be taken for what they are: entertainment. Leaks from other teams should be taken for what they are: obfuscation.
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Post by wazzu on Mar 24, 2024 13:05:13 GMT -5
Momentum where though? It's been reported for quite a while that scouts were higher on JJM than the mainstream analysts and talking heads. So, he could have already been high on teams boards, and now the mainstream is following suit to stay on trend, or to appear in the know... or to not be the outlier. ucmiami said well.
Media reports or "analysis" should be taken for what they are: entertainment. Leaks from other teams should be taken for what they are: obfuscation.
Again, I largely agree with this. |
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Post by tswfan on Mar 24, 2024 13:39:29 GMT -5
I love the talk of 'gaining momentum' especially with QBs in the run up to the draft. While the media is just getting around to actually looking at these guys pro teams have 15+/- guys whose only job is to study college prospects, as well as connections to the coaching staffs of 100 +/- college teams. And teams that do not have a Mahomes type young QB have put in 1000s of hours on evaluating these 6 QBs (and similar time on the next six over the last two years.) Momentum has little to do with that evaluation process, and except for guys with a meteoric rise in production in their final year (like Daniels) there aren't a lot of surprises. Now GMs, HCs, OCs, and owners may be spending the first quality time looking at the prospects after their season ended, but one hopes they aren't being influenced by 'momentum' but by careful evaluation of their scouting department reports with the added influence of team preferences in style of play. (Hopefully the scouting department already has a handle on those preferences when the management/coaching is stable something that is not true for the Pats at the moment.) If you were to get the real scoop on SF and their disastrous decisions in 2021, first to trade up, and then to pick Lance, I suspect you would find momentum to be a big part of their process. And if you look back at the 2022 draft, the predictions pre-draft were all about QBs and most mocks had 4-5 QBs drafted in round 1 and 2-3 in the top 10. Lots of QB desperate teams. And momentum did not creep into the draft rooms - Pitt breaking the ice at #20 with Pickett and the next two being drafted in the third round. And Mr Irrelevant being the most productive to date. I think this draft has better prospects, but I suspect even with the usual cadre of QB desperate teams, the ranking of QBs at the end of the college season is going to be closer to reality. Williams and Maye in the top 5, Daniels in the top 15, and JJ, Nix, and Penix in some order dispersed through the first and second round. If it follows the 2021 pattern with 5 in the first 15, there are going to be 3 or 4 teams draft a new QB within a couple of years. UC..I enjoy reading your posts. You are always thoughtful and make sense!  |
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Post by mthurl on Mar 25, 2024 11:27:33 GMT -5
I would select Maye over McCarthy, not sure about Daniels. It appears as if Maye is gaining momentum again after things I’ve read, watched, listened to on the radio…all of the sudden talking heads that were down on him have dramatically changed their minds (Phil Perry being the latest this week). None of it matters now, it’s all a lot of lying and misinformation flowing into these people’s ears and trickling down into ours. Personally I’ve been a fan of Maye’s all along, but I’ve also been a fan of McCarthy’s. As for Daniels, I initially thought he was highly overrated, but I’ve since changed my mind a lot on him. He’s much better than I gave him credit for. Bottom line… the Patriots have a chance to draft a franchise QB, if they pass on that opportunity I think they’re nuts (and I’m already leaning towards thinking they are nuts after watching this off season “spending spree”). We don't know that yet. We don't even know if this draft will produce a franchise QB. The 2021 draft draft produced one good QB, and I'm not sure we can call him a "franchise" QB yet. As for our personnel staff… On the one hand I think we have a couple new guys very good at evaluating players. On the other hand I'm starting to wonder if the guys that took over orchestrated a coup and were actually a good part of our recent problems. I agree, but note that I said “have a chance”, and I consider picking at 3 giving us the greater chance, especially looking at the top three QB’s. Nothing is a sure thing, but I’d say Maye’s ceiling is enormous, Calib has a high ceiling and so does Daniels. With the draft your referring to, I didn’t think Fields could play, I definitely thought Mac’s ceiling was too low, and the kid SF took I thought has some upside BuT he didn’t throw the ball much in college, and for him to reach his ceiling I thought would take a lot. As for Lawrence I thought he was a can’t miss prospect, an absolute stud generational talent. It looks like he’s been a bit of a disappointment thus far, but I trade the 3rd overall pick straight up for him in a heartbeat right now (and they’d absolutely say no in a heartbeat). |
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Post by lowfbiq on Mar 25, 2024 13:52:40 GMT -5
Michigan broke the record for most players from a school invited/attending a NFL combine with 18. That is not JJs fault. Michigan had a win where JJ only had to throw 8 total passes. Again that is not JJs fault. However, it does leave plenty of unanswered questions about just how much JJ had to do and or how much and how often he had to deal with extreme stress or adversity.
As far as Maye he would have his own questions as well. Like comparing him now to players who have played 2 or 3 years more than him, will he look significantly better than those he's being compared to with the same level of experience. Would he look the same as those he's being compared to even if he had another 2-3 years experience? If so I assume people think he is a finished product.
I have not really looked at any of them but these are just common sense thoughts that you simply have to have as part of any eval.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Mar 25, 2024 21:07:58 GMT -5
Michigan broke the record for most players from a school invited/attending a NFL combine with 18. That is not JJs fault. Michigan had a win where JJ only had to throw 8 total passes. Again that is not JJs fault. However, it does leave plenty of unanswered questions about just how much JJ had to do and or how much and how often he had to deal with extreme stress or adversity. As far as Maye he would have his own questions as well. Like comparing him now to players who have played 2 or 3 years more than him, will he look significantly better than those he's being compared to with the same level of experience. Would he look the same as those he's being compared to even if he had another 2-3 years experience? If so I assume people think he is a finished product. I have not really looked at any of them but these are just common sense thoughts that you simply have to have as part of any eval. There is now talk on NFL.com that MIN will trade up into LAC's spot to take JJM. The mystique around him (aka unanswered questions) is really working to his advantage. As you said, he did not really have to deal with extreme stress because he was not really asked to carry the team week in and week out - i.e., never was pushed to the point where his weaknesses could be exposed. |
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Post by freediro on Mar 25, 2024 22:31:08 GMT -5
Michigan broke the record for most players from a school invited/attending a NFL combine with 18. That is not JJs fault. Michigan had a win where JJ only had to throw 8 total passes. Again that is not JJs fault. However, it does leave plenty of unanswered questions about just how much JJ had to do and or how much and how often he had to deal with extreme stress or adversity. As far as Maye he would have his own questions as well. Like comparing him now to players who have played 2 or 3 years more than him, will he look significantly better than those he's being compared to with the same level of experience. Would he look the same as those he's being compared to even if he had another 2-3 years experience? If so I assume people think he is a finished product. I have not really looked at any of them but these are just common sense thoughts that you simply have to have as part of any eval. There is now talk on NFL.com that MIN will trade up into LAC's spot to take JJM. The mystique around him (aka unanswered questions) is really working to his advantage. As you said, he did not really have to deal with extreme stress because he was not really asked to carry the team week in and week out - i.e., never was pushed to the point where his weaknesses could be exposed. Even better, rumors are the Commanders could take JJ as well. So much so that Vegas has moved his betting line on where he goes in the draft. At this point the top 4 QBs could easily go in the top 4 in some order, but very likely the top 8 at least. |
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Post by mthurl on Mar 26, 2024 3:42:33 GMT -5
There is now talk on NFL.com that MIN will trade up into LAC's spot to take JJM. The mystique around him (aka unanswered questions) is really working to his advantage. As you said, he did not really have to deal with extreme stress because he was not really asked to carry the team week in and week out - i.e., never was pushed to the point where his weaknesses could be exposed. Even better, rumors are the Commanders could take JJ as well. So much so that Vegas has moved his betting line on where he goes in the draft. At this point the top 4 QBs could easily go in the top 4 in some order, but very likely the top 8 at least. I read that last night, “reports” are the Commanders GM will take McCarthy with the second overall pick. Wouldn’t that be something? We’d really have a choice to make at three then. |
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Post by garytx on Mar 26, 2024 7:48:57 GMT -5
Count me in on someone who is not big on McCarthy. He just didn't impress me during the playoffs in the two games I watched him although he can run like a deer. He did have good seasons with Michigan as his record shows. I just don't thing he can carry a team when you don't have a running game. If the run is not working he's doomed. I think this showed in the two playoff games.
From what I've read he's going up the charts because of the pro offense Michigan runs. He was reading defenses and calling his own plays at the line. That would give someone an edge. Pro learning curve is not the great to over come.
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Post by freediro on Mar 26, 2024 9:57:10 GMT -5
Count me in on someone who is not big on McCarthy. He just didn't impress me during the playoffs in the two games I watched him although he can run like a deer. He did have good seasons with Michigan as his record shows. I just don't thing he can carry a team when you don't have a running game. If the run is not working he's doomed. I think this showed in the two playoff games. From what I've read he's going up the charts because of the pro offense Michigan runs. He was reading defenses and calling his own plays at the line. That would give someone an edge. Pro learning curve is not the great to over come. His team was also clearly better than almost every single team he played against. He had a couple games where he didn’t really have to do all that much to win, but he has also shown signs of overcoming adversity and helping Michigan win games. My biggest fear is he gets to the NFL and he’s just a good QB, not great and not a guy who truly elevates everyone around him. Like he could go to the 49ers and look amazing, but he could come to the Pats and look like shit. |
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Post by salcon on Mar 26, 2024 10:57:32 GMT -5
Count me in on someone who is not big on McCarthy. He just didn't impress me during the playoffs in the two games I watched him although he can run like a deer. He did have good seasons with Michigan as his record shows. I just don't thing he can carry a team when you don't have a running game. If the run is not working he's doomed. I think this showed in the two playoff games. From what I've read he's going up the charts because of the pro offense Michigan runs. He was reading defenses and calling his own plays at the line. That would give someone an edge. Pro learning curve is not the great to over come. His team was also clearly better than almost every single team he played against. He had a couple games where he didn’t really have to do all that much to win, but he has also shown signs of overcoming adversity and helping Michigan win games. My biggest fear is he gets to the NFL and he’s just a good QB, not great and not a guy who truly elevates everyone around him. Like he could go to the 49ers and look amazing, but he could come to the Pats and look like shit.This is more likely to be the case as the offense stands right now. Although, I do think the plan is to sit the rookie QB (whomever he may be) for a year behind Brissett unless he just lights it up in camp and preseason. |
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Post by garytx on Apr 2, 2024 8:16:43 GMT -5
Count me in on someone who is not big on McCarthy. He just didn't impress me during the playoffs in the two games I watched him although he can run like a deer. He did have good seasons with Michigan as his record shows. I just don't thing he can carry a team when you don't have a running game. If the run is not working he's doomed. I think this showed in the two playoff games. From what I've read he's going up the charts because of the pro offense Michigan runs. He was reading defenses and calling his own plays at the line. That would give someone an edge. Pro learning curve is not the great to over come. His team was also clearly better than almost every single team he played against. He had a couple games where he didn’t really have to do all that much to win, but he has also shown signs of overcoming adversity and helping Michigan win games. My biggest fear is he gets to the NFL and he’s just a good QB, not great and not a guy who truly elevates everyone around him. Like he could go to the 49ers and look amazing, but he could come to the Pats and look like shit. What I believe you have to do is look at the offense as a whole. McCarthy had weapons and a strong running game. The Pats OL needs work. If you can't block it doesn't matter who you have at QB. Plus TE is thin and WR group needs help. RB needs more as well. As we all saw last year the pocket collapsed time and time again. Even a good scrambling QB wouldn't have had any place to go. That's why my hopes are they can trade down and hopefully get that OT and a QB with promise. Not as good as the top three but not that far away either. Hell, Brady was a 6th rounder. Who would have thought? I am admittedly gambling here because my scenario could blow up in my face and set the Pats back possibly even more. The schedule this year is tough. You are going to need an OL just to stay in games. Without one it's going to be a long season. |
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Apr 2, 2024 8:35:40 GMT -5
I ultimately prefer Daniels over either, but between Maye and JJM I would definitely choose Maye. I get the people who want JJM, but for me, this is a pick you make with the emphasis on high upside vs high floor which is what I believe JJM would be.
Maye has flaws, but most of them can be coached and if he develops a year behind Jacoby, he has probably the highest ceiling out of any of the QBs. To me, JJM gives me Mac PTSD (though I acknowledge that JJM is better athletically) because a lot of draft people were saying the same things about Mac that their now saying about McCarthy (winner, leader, hard worker, coaches love him, won national championship, etc.)
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