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Post by wazzu on Apr 16, 2024 21:23:01 GMT -5
I think it would have been shorter to list the draft eligible players that you didn’t draft in this mock.
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 16, 2024 21:26:39 GMT -5
I think it would have been shorter to list the draft eligible players that you didn’t draft in this mock. 20 draftees. Ay yi yi!!
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Post by CWTB on Apr 17, 2024 2:55:15 GMT -5
Yeah, we're going to Draft a QB, make him sit a year or two, till Team is much better, and he is more knowledgeable of NFL (where he didn't play 1 snap), and unleash him then.
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Post by michiganadam on Apr 17, 2024 7:29:24 GMT -5
People forget about OT. Can't wait until 4th to get an OT. The HAVE to get a day 1 starter...for LT. Bigger need than QB IMHO.
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Post by digger0862 on Apr 17, 2024 9:04:33 GMT -5
People forget about OT. Can't wait until 4th to get an OT. The HAVE to get a day 1 starter...for LT. Bigger need than QB IMHO. Tom Brady had stalwarts with Matt Light and Nate Solder for most of his career. That cannot be understated.
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Apr 17, 2024 9:20:20 GMT -5
People forget about OT. Can't wait until 4th to get an OT. The HAVE to get a day 1 starter...for LT. Bigger need than QB IMHO. Look.......I get the importance of getting a LT (I wanted them to sign Jonah Williams or Tyron Smith in free agency) and I would definitely accept drafting one in the 2nd round over a receiver despite the need there.....but to say its a bigger need than QB after the debacle we witnessed last season is certainly a take. If you don't think any of the top QBs are worth spending the 3rd pick on and you'd rather trade down and draft Joe Alt and pick one of the 2nd tier guys, that's a different story. But Brissett and Zappe are not the future of this organization lmao.
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Apr 17, 2024 9:22:12 GMT -5
People forget about OT. Can't wait until 4th to get an OT. The HAVE to get a day 1 starter...for LT. Bigger need than QB IMHO. Tom Brady had stalwarts with Matt Light and Nate Solder for most of his career. That cannot be understated. Are you suggesting that without those tackles (who were in fact very very good) that Tom Brady is not the player he eventually became? I just want to be clear on this lmao
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Apr 17, 2024 9:24:55 GMT -5
Yeah, we're going to Draft a QB, make him sit a year or two, till Team is much better, and he is more knowledgeable of NFL (where he didn't play 1 snap), and unleash him then. This is the right strategy, no matter what some fans or Zolak scream from the rooftops about needing to play a 3rd overall pick right away just because he's the 3rd pick. There's no point in throwing Maye or whoever is the pick out to the wolves with this roster next season just because people are impatient and can't stand the idea of having another losing season (which almost certainly is going to happen with our schedule). When you pick your guy, you need to make sure you develop him the correct way. I wouldn't sit him more than 1 year personally, but if it takes 2 years to make him the best possible QB then its still worth it.
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Post by wonderdrums on Apr 17, 2024 10:03:57 GMT -5
Yeah, we're going to Draft a QB, make him sit a year or two, till Team is much better, and he is more knowledgeable of NFL (where he didn't play 1 snap), and unleash him then. This is the right strategy, no matter what some fans or Zolak scream from the rooftops about needing to play a 3rd overall pick right away just because he's the 3rd pick. There's no point in throwing Maye or whoever is the pick out to the wolves with this roster next season just because people are impatient and can't stand the idea of having another losing season (which almost certainly is going to happen with our schedule). When you pick your guy, you need to make sure you develop him the correct way. I wouldn't sit him more than 1 year personally, but if it takes 2 years to make him the best possible QB then its still worth it. My issue isn’t sitting him. My issue is sitting him, only to find out he’s a bust. The Pats need to nail the #3 pick. I’m talking grand slam. They can a premier talent for 5-10 years.
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Post by digger0862 on Apr 17, 2024 10:04:01 GMT -5
Tom Brady had stalwarts with Matt Light and Nate Solder for most of his career. That cannot be understated. Are you suggesting that without those tackles (who were in fact very very good) that Tom Brady is not the player he eventually became? I just want to be clear on this lmao Absolutely. If a QB cannot trust his blind side then calm and composed becomes nervous and agitated.
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Post by jamesbrady2020 on Apr 17, 2024 10:23:26 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that without those tackles (who were in fact very very good) that Tom Brady is not the player he eventually became? I just want to be clear on this lmao Absolutely. If a QB cannot trust his blind side then calm and composed becomes nervous and agitated. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree there
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 17, 2024 10:35:46 GMT -5
There's a zero % chance that they sit the QB they draft for two years. It's not happening.
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Post by patslifer on Apr 17, 2024 12:14:14 GMT -5
There's a zero % chance that they sit the QB they draft for two years. It's not happening. What about year 1? OR Do you think whomever we draft beats out Brissett to start Day 1?
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 17, 2024 12:47:29 GMT -5
There's a zero % chance that they sit the QB they draft for two years. It's not happening. What about year 1? OR Do you think whomever we draft beats out Brissett to start Day 1? One year is at least conceivable,yes. Do I think Brissett will be over-taken by the rookie by the end of year one? Yes. Do I think the rookie wins the job out of camp? Again, sure it's definitely possible... especially if said player has a fantastic camp.
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Post by thejuice on Apr 17, 2024 18:35:57 GMT -5
What about year 1? OR Do you think whomever we draft beats out Brissett to start Day 1? One year is at least conceivable,yes. Do I think Brissett will be over-taken by the rookie by the end of year one? Yes. Do I think the rookie wins the job out of camp? Again, sure it's definitely possible... especially if said player has a fantastic camp. ive always been of the mindset, that long term, the rookie qb and the franchise as a whole, is going to be better in the long term if the rookie qb is brought along slowly... maybe not sitting him all of year 1, but go into camp and go into the season knowing that the vet is going to be the guy to start the year with the initial plan itll be for the entire year... if an injury takes place or the team is just god awful bad for 4-8 weeks or so, then yes, maybe at that point go to the rookie... i do not see the need.. if you are a bad enough team to be picking high in the draft (meaning you likely are a terrible team) to rush the rookie onto the field and put even more pressure on the kid than he is going to face whenver down the road he is named the starter. let him learn and sit and see what it takes to be a starting qb in the nfl week in and week out, behind the scenes, in practice and preparation each week, for a good half a season or more, before giving him the key to the franchise.
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Post by bostonsportsfan111 on Apr 17, 2024 20:55:53 GMT -5
1. Chicago - QB Caleb Williams USC 2 Washington - QB Jayden Daniels LSU 3 New England ***TRADE*** Minnesota moves up to select QB JJ Mc Carthy. NE receives #11, #23, a 2025 Rd 1 pick, and a 2025 Rd 3 pick 4 Arizona - WR Marvin Harrison Jr. Ohio State 5 Los Angeles Chargers - OT Joe Alt ND 6 New York Giants - QB Drake Maye UNC 7 Tennessee - WR Rome Odunze Wash 8 Atlanta - Edge Dallas Turner Alabama 9 Chicago - WR Malik Nabers LSU 10 New York Jets - OT Olu Fashanu Penn St 11 New England **TRADE** Las Vegas traded #13, a 2024 3rd and 2025 2nd to move up to 11 for Michael Penix Jr 12 Denver - QB Bo Nix Oregon 13 New England - TE Brock Bowers Georgia 14 New Orleans - OT J.C. Latham Alabama 15 Indianapolis- CB Kool-Aid Mckinstry Alabama 16 Seattle - T/G Troy Fautanu Washington 17 Jacksonville - *TRADE* Jacksonville trades 17 and 96 to Philadelphia for 22 and 53. Philadelphia selects CB Terrion Arnold Alabama 18 Cincinnati - OT Taliese Fuaga Oregon State 19 Los Angeles Rams - Edge Laiatu Latu UCLA 20 Pittsburgh 21 Miami 22 Jacksonville 23 New England 24 Dallas 25 Green Bay 26 Tampa Bay 27 Arizona 28 Buffalo 29 Detroit 30 Baltimore 31 San Francisco 32 Kansas City
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Post by bostonsportsfan111 on Apr 17, 2024 20:56:39 GMT -5
I'm dying to find out what the Pats do next...
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Post by thejuice on Apr 17, 2024 21:18:04 GMT -5
I'm dying to find out what the Pats do next... best bet is probably to find out what happened on day 5 or so on the trip to israel years back... therein lies the answer...
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Post by bostonsportsfan111 on Apr 17, 2024 21:40:07 GMT -5
I'm dying to find out what the Pats do next... best bet is probably to find out what happened on day 5 or so on the trip to israel years back... therein lies the answer... They wrapped the pick in swaddling blankets???
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Post by michiganadam on Apr 18, 2024 7:44:48 GMT -5
People forget about OT. Can't wait until 4th to get an OT. The HAVE to get a day 1 starter...for LT. Bigger need than QB IMHO. Look.......I get the importance of getting a LT (I wanted them to sign Jonah Williams or Tyron Smith in free agency) and I would definitely accept drafting one in the 2nd round over a receiver despite the need there.....but to say its a bigger need than QB after the debacle we witnessed last season is certainly a take. If you don't think any of the top QBs are worth spending the 3rd pick on and you'd rather trade down and draft Joe Alt and pick one of the 2nd tier guys, that's a different story. But Brissett and Zappe are not the future of this organization lmao. Oh I agree Brissett is not the future, but he is a viable starter for next year. They do not have that at LT. They MIGHT have a wish and a prayer. Sort of like the RS starting staff. Maybe they can get a miracle in Okafar(sp), but the odds of that...
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 18, 2024 8:13:41 GMT -5
1. Chicago - QB Caleb Williams USC 2 Washington - QB Jayden Daniels LSU 3 New England ***TRADE*** Minnesota moves up to select QB JJ Mc Carthy. NE receives #11, #23, a 2025 Rd 1 pick, and a 2025 Rd 3 pick 4 Arizona - WR Marvin Harrison Jr. Ohio State 5 Los Angeles Chargers - OT Joe Alt ND 6 New York Giants - QB Drake Maye UNC 7 Tennessee - WR Rome Odunze Wash 8 Atlanta - Edge Dallas Turner Alabama 9 Chicago - WR Malik Nabers LSU 10 New York Jets - OT Olu Fashanu Penn St 11 New England **TRADE** Las Vegas traded #13, a 2024 3rd and 2025 2nd to move up to 11 for Michael Penix Jr 12 Denver - QB Bo Nix Oregon 13 New England - TE Brock Bowers Georgia 14 New Orleans - OT J.C. Latham Alabama 15 Indianapolis- CB Kool-Aid Mckinstry Alabama 16 Seattle - T/G Troy Fautanu Washington 17 Jacksonville - *TRADE* Jacksonville trades 17 and 96 to Philadelphia for 22 and 53. Philadelphia selects CB Terrion Arnold Alabama 18 Cincinnati - OT Taliese Fuaga Oregon State 19 Los Angeles Rams - Edge Laiatu Latu UCLA 20 Pittsburgh - iOL Graham Barton Duke 21 Miami - DT Byron Murphy II Texas 22 Jacksonville - WR Brian Thomas Jr. LSU (somewhere, DaP Gronk-spikes his TV, PC and phone in rage) 23 New England 24 Dallas 25 Green Bay 26 Tampa Bay 27 Arizona 28 Buffalo 29 Detroit 30 Baltimore 31 San Francisco 32 Kansas City
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Post by g00dd on Apr 18, 2024 11:02:00 GMT -5
1. Chicago - QB Caleb Williams USC 2 Washington - QB Jayden Daniels LSU 3 New England ***TRADE*** Minnesota moves up to select QB JJ Mc Carthy. NE receives #11, #23, a 2025 Rd 1 pick, and a 2025 Rd 3 pick 4 Arizona - WR Marvin Harrison Jr. Ohio State 5 Los Angeles Chargers - OT Joe Alt ND 6 New York Giants - QB Drake Maye UNC 7 Tennessee - WR Rome Odunze Wash 8 Atlanta - Edge Dallas Turner Alabama 9 Chicago - WR Malik Nabers LSU 10 New York Jets - OT Olu Fashanu Penn St 11 New England **TRADE** Las Vegas traded #13, a 2024 3rd and 2025 2nd to move up to 11 for Michael Penix Jr 12 Denver - QB Bo Nix Oregon 13 New England - TE Brock Bowers Georgia 14 New Orleans - OT J.C. Latham Alabama 15 Indianapolis- CB Kool-Aid Mckinstry Alabama 16 Seattle - T/G Troy Fautanu Washington 17 Jacksonville - *TRADE* Jacksonville trades 17 and 96 to Philadelphia for 22 and 53. Philadelphia selects CB Terrion Arnold Alabama 18 Cincinnati - OT Taliese Fuaga Oregon State 19 Los Angeles Rams - Edge Laiatu Latu UCLA 20 Pittsburgh - iOL Graham Barton Duke 21 Miami - DT Byron Murphy II Texas 22 Jacksonville - WR Brian Thomas Jr. LSU (somewhere, DaP Gronk-spikes his TV, PC and phone in rage) 23 New England - OT Tyler Guyton Oklahoma 24 Dallas 25 Green Bay 26 Tampa Bay 27 Arizona 28 Buffalo 29 Detroit 30 Baltimore 31 San Francisco 32 Kansas City
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 18, 2024 15:25:35 GMT -5
1. Chicago - QB Caleb Williams USC 2 Washington - QB Jayden Daniels LSU 3 New England ***TRADE*** Minnesota moves up to select QB JJ Mc Carthy. NE receives #11, #23, a 2025 Rd 1 pick, and a 2025 Rd 3 pick 4 Arizona - WR Marvin Harrison Jr. Ohio State 5 Los Angeles Chargers - OT Joe Alt ND 6 New York Giants - QB Drake Maye UNC 7 Tennessee - WR Rome Odunze Wash 8 Atlanta - Edge Dallas Turner Alabama 9 Chicago - WR Malik Nabers LSU 10 New York Jets - OT Olu Fashanu Penn St 11 New England **TRADE** Las Vegas traded #13, a 2024 3rd and 2025 2nd to move up to 11 for Michael Penix Jr 12 Denver - QB Bo Nix Oregon 13 New England - TE Brock Bowers Georgia 14 New Orleans - OT J.C. Latham Alabama 15 Indianapolis- CB Kool-Aid Mckinstry Alabama 16 Seattle - T/G Troy Fautanu Washington 17 Jacksonville - *TRADE* Jacksonville trades 17 and 96 to Philadelphia for 22 and 53. Philadelphia selects CB Terrion Arnold Alabama 18 Cincinnati - OT Taliese Fuaga Oregon State 19 Los Angeles Rams - Edge Laiatu Latu UCLA 20 Pittsburgh - iOL Graham Barton Duke 21 Miami - DT Byron Murphy II Texas 22 Jacksonville - WR Brian Thomas Jr. LSU (somewhere, DaP Gronk-spikes his TV, PC and phone in rage) 23 New England 24 Dallas 25 Green Bay 26 Tampa Bay 27 Arizona 28 Buffalo 29 Detroit 30 Baltimore 31 San Francisco 32 Kansas City THIS MOCK SUCKS!!! (GRONK SPIKE)
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Post by wonderdrums on Apr 18, 2024 15:35:45 GMT -5
1. Chicago - QB Caleb Williams USC 2 Washington - QB Jayden Daniels LSU 3 New England ***TRADE*** Minnesota moves up to select QB JJ Mc Carthy. NE receives #11, #23, a 2025 Rd 1 pick, and a 2025 Rd 3 pick 4 Arizona - WR Marvin Harrison Jr. Ohio State 5 Los Angeles Chargers - OT Joe Alt ND 6 New York Giants - QB Drake Maye UNC 7 Tennessee - WR Rome Odunze Wash 8 Atlanta - Edge Dallas Turner Alabama 9 Chicago - WR Malik Nabers LSU 10 New York Jets - OT Olu Fashanu Penn St 11 New England **TRADE** Las Vegas traded #13, a 2024 3rd and 2025 2nd to move up to 11 for Michael Penix Jr 12 Denver - QB Bo Nix Oregon 13 New England - TE Brock Bowers Georgia 14 New Orleans - OT J.C. Latham Alabama 15 Indianapolis- CB Kool-Aid Mckinstry Alabama 16 Seattle - T/G Troy Fautanu Washington 17 Jacksonville - *TRADE* Jacksonville trades 17 and 96 to Philadelphia for 22 and 53. Philadelphia selects CB Terrion Arnold Alabama 18 Cincinnati - OT Taliese Fuaga Oregon State 19 Los Angeles Rams - Edge Laiatu Latu UCLA 20 Pittsburgh - iOL Graham Barton Duke 21 Miami - DT Byron Murphy II Texas 22 Jacksonville - WR Brian Thomas Jr. LSU (somewhere, DaP Gronk-spikes his TV, PC and phone in rage) 23 New England - OT Tyler Guyton Oklahoma 24 Dallas - OT Amarius Mims Georgia 25 Green Bay 26 Tampa Bay 27 Arizona 28 Buffalo 29 Detroit 30 Baltimore 31 San Francisco 32 Kansas City
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 18, 2024 18:23:41 GMT -5
There's a zero % chance that they sit the QB they draft for two years. It's not happening. To me, a QB drafted in the top 10 should be expected to perform as a top 10 NFL QB in year 3 (in this case, 2026). The approach to developing the QB to be that can vary by situation - team and QB. Obviously, it would be preferrable that the QB show strong signs of being that earlier than later.
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