bredbru
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Post by bredbru on Oct 9, 2017 12:23:59 GMT -5
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Post by patslifer on Oct 9, 2017 13:24:09 GMT -5
Yes a fantasy but one I would love to beleive.
The problem is his cap hit and the big, fat 77m contract he signed last year. Not sure how we afford that given Hightower is making big money as well.
That's a lot of coin for the middle of your defense.
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Post by jri37 on Oct 9, 2017 13:32:41 GMT -5
Yes a fantasy but one I would love to beleive. The problem is his cap hit and the big, fat 77m contract he signed last year. Not sure how we afford that given Hightower is making big money as well. That's a lot of coin for the middle of your defense. The way I believe it works is the team trading the player has to eat the signing bonus portion of the cap charge and the team he gets traded to pays the yearly salary structure. If that's the case the Pats would pay a prorated amount of 6.75m this year, 8.7m in 2018 and 2.55m in 2019. I think that's how it works but I could be wrong maybe one of our salary gurus could weigh in. |
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Post by thehub on Oct 9, 2017 13:57:06 GMT -5
Love it - make it happen. |
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Post by wonderdrums on Oct 9, 2017 14:06:18 GMT -5
Yes a fantasy but one I would love to beleive. The problem is his cap hit and the big, fat 77m contract he signed last year. Not sure how we afford that given Hightower is making big money as well. That's a lot of coin for the middle of your defense. The way I believe it works is the team trading the player has to eat the signing bonus portion of the cap charge and the team he gets traded to pays the yearly salary structure. If that's the case the Pats would pay a prorated amount of 6.75m this year, 8.7m in 2018 and 2.55m in 2019. I think that's how it works but I could be wrong maybe one of our salary gurus could weigh in. I’m certainly not the guru you’re talking about but I believe you are correct. I’m not sure Bowman can learn the system. He’s not noted for his intellect. I’d be down for a player with his talent here though. |
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bredbru
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Post by bredbru on Oct 9, 2017 14:16:19 GMT -5
thanks for weighing in..
if jri37 is right, that's quite affordable for a player like him
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Post by muzwell on Oct 9, 2017 15:35:04 GMT -5
Pats have $5.5 mil in cap space, Bowman would take about $4.5 mil of that. Doesn't seem all that likely.
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Post by wonderdrums on Oct 9, 2017 19:37:01 GMT -5
Pats have $5.5 mil in cap space, Bowman would take about $4.5 mil of that. Doesn't seem all that likely. If they trade a player, wouldnt that free up more money too? |
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Post by muzwell on Oct 10, 2017 5:57:28 GMT -5
Pats have $5.5 mil in cap space, Bowman would take about $4.5 mil of that. Doesn't seem all that likely. If they trade a player, wouldnt that free up more money too? Yes, unless they have dead money that is more than their salary. But, I can't see San Fran taking anything but draft picks. They're not taking Lewis. |
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Post by rkarp on Oct 10, 2017 6:51:02 GMT -5
very good to great player, but his next birthday he will be 30 years old. he has had serious injury. and he is complaining about playing time. that's an awful large cap hit next year for a player that may be at best a 2 down player
I would prefer a player on his last year, playing for his next contract. prefer a LB with either cover skills or pass rush skills. we have not really had the chance to see it on the field, but it appears that the staff has decided that player is not Harris. they also swung and missed last year with Mingo, albeit he was very good on ST. while some posters may not have seen it, the coaching staff appears to like what they have with VanNoy and extended him. ditto McClellin.
perhaps Rivers develops into that guy
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Post by Brady2Welker47 on Oct 10, 2017 8:00:07 GMT -5
Go get Kendricks Philly LB ....he can get after the rusher...he is younger and his playing time has been decreasing as well.
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Post by wonderdrums on Oct 10, 2017 10:41:17 GMT -5
If they trade a player, wouldnt that free up more money too? Yes, unless they have dead money that is more than their salary. But, I can't see San Fran taking anything but draft picks. They're not taking Lewis. There’s plenty of tradable players on the roster. I didn’t have anyone specific in mind but I would not be surprised by anything B.B. does. He could trade any player tomorrow if he feels it makes the team better. |
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Post by muzwell on Oct 10, 2017 10:54:48 GMT -5
Yes, unless they have dead money that is more than their salary. But, I can't see San Fran taking anything but draft picks. They're not taking Lewis. There’s plenty of tradable players on the roster. I didn’t have anyone specific in mind but I would not be surprised by anything B.B. does. He could trade any player tomorrow if he feels it makes the team better. True that. But, I don't think San Fran would have any interest in more or less anyone on the roster outside of Jimmy. They want draft picks. Some other team, sure there might be a match somewhere. |
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Post by bostonsportsfan111 on Oct 13, 2017 14:39:02 GMT -5
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Post by bostonsportsfan111 on Oct 13, 2017 14:49:14 GMT -5
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Post by jri37 on Oct 13, 2017 14:52:18 GMT -5
Don't know specifically but I think the 9'ers would have to eat any signing bonus cap wise and the Pats would be on the hook for his yearly base salary, although I'm not 100% sure. |
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Post by muzwell on Oct 13, 2017 15:02:05 GMT -5
Don't know specifically but I think the 9'ers would have to eat any signing bonus cap wise and the Pats would be on the hook for his yearly base salary, although I'm not 100% sure. They'd have to pay him about $4.x mil the rest of the year. Not bad, but considering they have $5.5 in cap space, it's not really doable unless they offload some money elsewhere. The Niners aren't taking Lewis, either. |
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Post by bostonsportsfan111 on Oct 13, 2017 15:08:12 GMT -5
Don't know specifically but I think the 9'ers would have to eat any signing bonus cap wise and the Pats would be on the hook for his yearly base salary, although I'm not 100% sure. They'd have to pay him about $4.x mil the rest of the year. Not bad, but considering they have $5.5 in cap space, it's not really doable unless they offload some money elsewhere. The Niners aren't taking Lewis, either. "Tommy... yeah it's Bill. We'd like to offer you another two year extension. Yeah. Yeah. Bowman. Yeah, really. You need to cut this years salary by $8 million. Yeah, no problem. It is what it is... paperwork will be ready tomorrow...". |
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Post by bostonsportsfan111 on Oct 13, 2017 15:22:14 GMT -5
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Post by croc on Oct 13, 2017 15:35:06 GMT -5
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Post by mrmojo112058 on Oct 13, 2017 15:40:23 GMT -5
Bring him in for a look!!!
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Post by bostonsportsfan111 on Oct 13, 2017 15:43:44 GMT -5
He's had games of 8, 11 and 10 tackles already this year. Make a call a time least...
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Post by croc on Oct 13, 2017 15:50:07 GMT -5
They'd have to pay him about $4.x mil the rest of the year. Not bad, but considering they have $5.5 in cap space, it's not really doable unless they offload some money elsewhere. The Niners aren't taking Lewis, either. "Tommy... yeah it's Bill. We'd like to offer you another two year extension. Yeah. Yeah. Bowman. Yeah, really. You need to cut this years salary by $8 million. Yeah, no problem. It is what it is... paperwork will be ready tomorrow...". Okay if it means a 2 year extension and the Binkie goes in the off season  Not really an injury prone run stuffer is not what the need. |
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Post by robotpat on Oct 13, 2017 16:01:53 GMT -5
Heard he struggled in coverage this year?
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Post by croc on Oct 13, 2017 16:04:48 GMT -5
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Not really an injury prone run stuffer is not what the need.