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Post by patseng on Oct 24, 2017 8:59:59 GMT -5
Ok Rkarp I think I understand were you are confused so let's break it down The CB's - they played man (do you agree or disagree) The S's location - they played 2 deep (do you agree or disagree) McCourty - primarily played over Bad and main job was to pick up Bads player if went deep enough otherwise secondary responsibility stayed in half field zone mid/deep (agree or disagree) Harmon/Chung - primarily played over Julio and main job double coverage Julio unless on short slants then secondary responsibility stay in half field zone mid (agree or disagree) the mid play switch we'll never agree Edit: Perfect article describing Man-2 deep vs cover 2 bleacherreport.com/articles/2154983-nfl-101-breaking-down-the-basics-of-2-man-coverageThe coverage known as 2-Man is a two-deep, man-under defense with “trail-man” coverage underneath and the protection of two deep-half safeties over the top. Similar to Cover 2 (two-deep, five-under zone defense) from a pre-snap look, 2-Man is designed to put a tent on the top of the defense with both safeties gaining depth at the snap to play “top-down” while working to overlap any throw to the middle of the field (weakness of the scheme). Sound familiar? I am not confused. I was pretty clear that Butler and Bademosi did not each play a side, but played the side specific to which WR lined up. I was also pretty clear that 75% of the time the Pats had cover 2 with their S's. you were also pretty clear. you wondered which game I watched. And wondered if I had watched it from a strip club truth be told, I was at the game. I saw with my own eyes where the defense was lining up. I also watched the replay. from the TV feed, in the 2nd half, you could not see where the defense was lining up. I stand by my initial comment. the D mostly was in cover 2, save for red zone plays and situation specific plays. (I off the top of my head pegged that at 75%) lets agree to drop it So you have the CBs playing zone right? That's cover 2, if you have the CBs playing man as I and Lifer said that's 2-man. See article posted above. They look similar but they are different in scheme and execution based on CB assignments. There is a difference between cover 2 and 2-man but from the stands it's hard to tell, with exception of watching the CBs and whether they are playing man or zone. Late in the game they switched to a zone underneath in that shell, that is then cover 2 but they never switch mid play
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Post by rkarp on Oct 24, 2017 9:03:29 GMT -5
I am not confused. I was pretty clear that Butler and Bademosi did not each play a side, but played the side specific to which WR lined up. I was also pretty clear that 75% of the time the Pats had cover 2 with their S's. you were also pretty clear. you wondered which game I watched. And wondered if I had watched it from a strip club truth be told, I was at the game. I saw with my own eyes where the defense was lining up. I also watched the replay. from the TV feed, in the 2nd half, you could not see where the defense was lining up. I stand by my initial comment. the D mostly was in cover 2, save for red zone plays and situation specific plays. (I off the top of my head pegged that at 75%) lets agree to drop it So you have the CBs playing zone right? That's cover 2, if you have the CBs playing man as I and Lifer said that's 2-man. See article posted above. They look similar but they are different in scheme and execution based on CB assignments. There is a difference between cover 2 and 2-man but from the stands it's hard to tell, with exception of watching the CBs and whether they are playing man or zone. Late in the game they switched to a zone underneath in that shell, that is then cover 2 but they never switch mid play good bye Pats Eng. you win. you are right see you on a different thread
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Post by coolade on Oct 25, 2017 20:24:39 GMT -5
Sorry, you can't spin it other than excuse agenda backpedaling from previous jackass posts. ..lol Your'e the biggest troll on here. One good game and you think the defense is fixed. I swear man, you need to go outside of this forum and watch and listen to some talk radio/tv that has some pretty good unbiased and objective professionals discussing this very topic. You're an embarrassment.. it's people like you that other fans bases make fun of and shake their heads about. You are a joke! Oops... You crossed the line, huh. ? You and pezz and poopsie are the d haters, right. ? The football stupid crowd ? Who else wants to sign up? Gotta check that game thread for jackdinkass posts every time the other team makes a play. Yep. It's all there. And you look stupid sorry. This defense is following same approximate blue print of years past. Do you not pay attention to anything other than shrill overreactions .?
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Post by TFB12 on Oct 26, 2017 0:28:34 GMT -5
Your'e the biggest troll on here. One good game and you think the defense is fixed. I swear man, you need to go outside of this forum and watch and listen to some talk radio/tv that has some pretty good unbiased and objective professionals discussing this very topic. You're an embarrassment.. it's people like you that other fans bases make fun of and shake their heads about. You are a joke! Oops... You crossed the line, huh. ? You and pezz and poopsie are the d haters, right. ? The football stupid crowd ? Who else wants to sign up? Gotta check that game thread for jackdinkass posts every time the other team makes a play. Yep. It's all there. And you look stupid sorry. This defense is following same approximate blue print of years past. Do you not pay attention to anything other than shrill overreactions .? when was the last time the Pats had the worst defense after 6 games?
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Post by coolade on Oct 26, 2017 3:12:50 GMT -5
^^^ I believe they were 4*2 and leading their division. What you stat junkies miss is actual football reality . It's really comical. Please keep doing it.
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