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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 22, 2018 19:46:27 GMT -5
Not top 10 guys. You can get pass rushers in the later rounds. I was a fan of the rivers pick when selected. I just wonder why the guy can’t get on the field. Does he suck that bad? What does that mean in the context of the 2017 draft? Past pick 15, here is the list of DEs taken before Rivers, with their respective 2018 tackle and sack counts: 17 Jonathan Allen 51/7 22 Charles Harris 6/0 26 Takkarist McKinley 13/5.5 28 Taco Charlton 10/1 51 Demarcus Walker 2/1 59 Tanoh Kpassagnon 4/0 68 Dawuane Smoot 4/1 73 Jordan Willis 12/1 74 Chris Wormley 15/1 77 Daeshon Hall 0/0 78 Tarell Basham 7/0 Other than Allen who was picked way before NE had their first chance, who do you think would have fared better in NE than Rivers? Those guys are on the field.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 22, 2018 19:52:06 GMT -5
What does that mean in the context of the 2017 draft? Past pick 15, here is the list of DEs taken before Rivers, with their respective 2018 tackle and sack counts: 17 Jonathan Allen 51/7 22 Charles Harris 6/0 26 Takkarist McKinley 13/5.5 28 Taco Charlton 10/1 51 Demarcus Walker 2/1 59 Tanoh Kpassagnon 4/0 68 Dawuane Smoot 4/1 73 Jordan Willis 12/1 74 Chris Wormley 15/1 77 Daeshon Hall 0/0 78 Tarell Basham 7/0 Other than Allen who was picked way before NE had their first chance, who do you think would have fared better in NE than Rivers? Those guys are on the field. Yeah but the reason Rivers was NE's first pick that year was that they acquired players who helped then get to the SB. None of the players who you say are getting on the field would have been the difference to help them win that game.
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Post by jjdbrasil on Dec 23, 2018 5:48:28 GMT -5
Does anyone think he will sneak into the back-end of the 1st Rd?
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Post by jjdbrasil on Dec 23, 2018 5:51:13 GMT -5
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Post by jjdbrasil on Dec 23, 2018 5:51:48 GMT -5
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Post by jjdbrasil on Dec 23, 2018 5:56:27 GMT -5
www.cover1.net/2019-nfl-draft-needs-afc-east/New England Patriots Needs: EDGE, DT, TE Projected Picks (8): 1st, 2nd, 2nd (from CHI), 3rd (from DET), 4th, 7th, 7th (from CLE), 7th (from PHI) On track to suffer their worst record in years, many are believing that the Patriots are finally falling from grace. After being the model franchise throughout the league over the past two decades, there are many areas in which the team has declined. Earning MVP just a season ago, Tom Brady is on pace to have his worst season since 2013. Tight end Rob Gronkowski doesn’t look like his normal self — his back injuries finally look like they are starting to take a toll on him. Trey Flowers, arguably the team’s best defender, is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent this offseason, and that leaves limited depth at edge rusher. After trading Jimmy Garoppolo to the 49ers, the team hasn’t had a dependable heir apparent to Brady. Turning 42 years old and entering the final year of his contract, this may be the year that the team takes a quarterback early on during the draft. Prospect That Makes Sense: TE — Noah Fant — Iowa
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 23, 2018 7:34:40 GMT -5
Does anyone think he will sneak into the back-end of the 1st Rd? I do, and he's my #1 TE. Below is what I had posted about him back on Dec 1st. With the seeming decline in #87's play this season (likely due to multiple factors), no long term deal in the works (that we know of), and retirement a possibility, TE could very well be a position that's address with one of their early round picks, as it has long been a cornerstone piece of NE's offense.
The good news is, TE could be one of the stronger offensive positions in this draft. Look no further than Iowa, where BB's old pal, Kirk Ferentz, frequently churns out tough, NFL caliber talent, and this year is no different. And while TE Noah Fant seems to garner most of the attention (for good reason), it could be their other TE that ends up in NE, should he declare for the draft (he's a RS Soph). Fant is an extremely athletic option, with almost WR like skills, but TJ Hockenson (6-5 250) is more of the dual-purpose type that's seasoned and strong as an inline blocker, and a weapon in the passing game, using solid hands, athleticism, route-running RAC power and ball skills to make life hard for opposing linebackers, and creating havoc up the seam. He's a versatile player that will create match-up problems at the NFL level... and statistically, he's been superior in 2018 to the more highly regarded Fant, putting up 46-717-6 (15.59 YPC) to Fant's 39-519-7 (13.31 YPC).
In closing, if he declares (Fant already has), I think he's very much in the mix for NE with one of their first three picks. Really, really like this player.
Below are some 2018 highlights:
youtu.be/yF_tpb_ejEs
NOTE: I'm also high on Stanford TE Kaden Smith, and will profile him at a later date.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 23, 2018 7:50:00 GMT -5
Below is my updated board, with new additions added in green:
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Post by thejuice on Dec 23, 2018 10:12:33 GMT -5
This team needs players upfront that are known in college football. Look where derek rivers is right now. The guy can’t get on the damn field. Where they play means nothing. They need players.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 11:05:02 GMT -5
Pats have 12 picks this year? Every Round but the 6th, looks like. 4, 7th Rounders.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 26, 2018 14:31:41 GMT -5
This is just frustrating. Not normal, but I actually have time to watch a college ball game real time. And I am having to wait through this game's (BC vs BSU) weather delay.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 26, 2018 14:40:31 GMT -5
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Post by fisher on Dec 26, 2018 14:41:13 GMT -5
Anyone else going to the draft in Nashville??? Finally getting this off my bucket list as I would never go to NY for anything..
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 26, 2018 14:45:44 GMT -5
Was just coming here to post this. Makes a relatively crappy QB class even crappier.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 26, 2018 14:48:16 GMT -5
This is just frustrating. Not normal, but I actually have time to watch a college ball game real time. And I am having to wait through this game's (BC vs BSU) weather delay. Keep an eye on BSU QB Brett Rypien (a realistic option for NE, IMO) and BC DE Zach Allen (a great fit for them, with one of their first few picks). I'd also be curious to see if BC S Lukas Denis is still missing a lot of tackles, as that was my big takeaway, while watching his tape earlier this year.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 26, 2018 15:31:30 GMT -5
This is just frustrating. Not normal, but I actually have time to watch a college ball game real time. And I am having to wait through this game's (BC vs BSU) weather delay. Wow, game cancelled due to weather/lightning.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 26, 2018 17:06:02 GMT -5
This is just frustrating. Not normal, but I actually have time to watch a college ball game real time. And I am having to wait through this game's (BC vs BSU) weather delay. Wow, game cancelled due to weather/lightning. Wow. Cancelled? I guess it makes sense. It would be too expensive for everyone to reschedule. That's a bummer.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 26, 2018 17:08:30 GMT -5
Wow, game cancelled due to weather/lightning. Wow. Cancelled? I guess it makes sense. It would be too expensive for everyone to reschedule. That's a bummer. Yep, it's officially a no-contest. Agree, was hoping to get a look at some players.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 26, 2018 17:14:03 GMT -5
This is just frustrating. Not normal, but I actually have time to watch a college ball game real time. And I am having to wait through this game's (BC vs BSU) weather delay. Keep an eye on BSU QB Brett Rypien (a realistic option for NE, IMO) and BC DE Zach Allen (a great fit for them, with one of their first few picks). I'd also be curious to see if BC S Lukas Denis is still missing a lot of tackles, as that was my big takeaway, while watching his tape earlier this year. I like Allen. I think he is a matchup nightmare for Ts. He is not as quick around the corner as I normally like but enough to force the T to have to shuffle their quickest, usually at the expense of forward/backward leverage. If he figures it out, it's enough to give himself, given his size and power, to get a bit of an advantage everytime.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 26, 2018 17:15:07 GMT -5
Wow. Cancelled? I guess it makes sense. It would be too expensive for everyone to reschedule. That's a bummer. Yep, it's officially a no-contest. Agree, was hoping to get a look at some players. Imagine how disappointing that was if you were a Senior. And the families too.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 27, 2018 9:00:05 GMT -5
Yep, it's officially a no-contest. Agree, was hoping to get a look at some players. Imagine how disappointing that was if you were a Senior. And the families too. That’s a joke. Play the game.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 27, 2018 9:03:25 GMT -5
Imagine how disappointing that was if you were a Senior. And the families too. That’s a joke. Play the game. Oh stop it... they're not gonna play games when lightning strikes occur, and/or there are threats of continued strikes.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 27, 2018 9:04:31 GMT -5
So Herbert is staying in college? That’s a big mistake by the kid. He likely was going top 5. Next year you have tua, the kid from georgia and Stanford. McShay thinks it’s a good decision. If he struggles next year he will be another matt barkley.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 27, 2018 9:05:01 GMT -5
That’s a joke. Play the game. Oh stop it... they're not gonna play games when lightning strikes occur, and/or there are threats of continued strikes. Play the game the following day. That’s what i meant.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 27, 2018 9:12:34 GMT -5
Oh stop it... they're not gonna play games when lightning strikes occur, and/or there are threats of continued strikes. Play the game the following day. That’s what i meant. They (everyone involved with making the decision to cancel the game) probably determined that it wasn't worth the time and effort to reschedule everything for the following day, IDK... especially considering that it's essentially an exhibition game. I def feel for the seniors though.
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