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Post by jjdbrasil on Dec 13, 2018 18:04:34 GMT -5
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Post by jjdbrasil on Dec 13, 2018 18:06:43 GMT -5
The Draft Network @draftnetworkllc Following Following @draftnetworkllc More The NFL has informed teams that the 2020 NFL Draft will be held in Las Vegas.
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Post by olemiss on Dec 14, 2018 13:07:10 GMT -5
Ole Miss 3 1st Rounds Picks!!!!
On Monday afternoon, in a subdued tweet that noted he “will always be a Rebel,” star left tackle Greg Little announced that he will forego his senior season at Ole Miss and declare for the 2019 NFL Draft. Little, who signed with Hugh Freeze’s team in February of 2016 as a unanimous five-star, is projected by ESPN’s Todd McShay ESPN’s Todd McShay to be the first O-lineman off the board and a top-10 overall pick. Like former Rebel star Laremy Tunsil, Little came out of high school as the No. 1 offensive line prospect and heads to the NFL Draft with the same title.
It’s Freeze’s 2014 class, which included Tunsil, Laquon Treadwell and Robert Nkemdiche, that’s best known, but his 2016 class was even better, landing Ole Miss in the top five of national recruiting rankings for the first time in program history. It’s poised to deliver three first-round picks in April, which could be more than any school not named Alabama.
Little’s announcement came a week and a half after that of stud wideout A.J. Brown, who’s been projected as high as the No. 2 pick and is a probably a lock in the top 15. He followed fellow wideout D.K. Metcalf, who may just have the biggest upside of the group. Metcalf would probably be a top-15 guy if not for a season-ending neck injury, but even still he’s ranked 31st by CBS Sports.
On that CBS ranking, only Bama has more than three prospects inside the top 32 (Ohio State is the only other with three).
Make your jokes about Freeze and his bag men, but the level of offensive talent he was able to aggregate at a school with middling historical success is astounding. That Ole Miss could have three first-rounders in any year is surprising in itself—that it could happen twice in the span of three years is mind-blowing.
The returns on that talent acquisition are another story. Little, Brown and Metcalf leave Ole Miss with just a 16-20 overall record. Freeze’s dramatic resignation in 2017 certainly disrupted things and offensive coordinator Phil Longo’s inability to capitalize on the talent Freeze left him is a big reason he’ll be coaching in Chapel Hill instead of Oxford next season. Still, Little, Brown and Metcalf made Ole Miss football a hell of lot more fun to watch over the past few years than it otherwise would have been.
In the past two seasons alone, the two wideouts combined for 225 receptions, 3,787 yards and 29 touchdowns. Little anchored one of the most reliable line groups in school history and was no small part of a massive improvement in the running game.
Here’s a look at each guy’s profile heading into April’s draft.
Greg Little CBS Sports overall rank: 16th Mel Kiper OL rank: 5th
What scouts are saying: “Little, who just announced he’s entering the draft, is a true left tackle. He won’t have to move to the right side in the NFL. He’s light on his feet and can get to the second level to take on linebackers, and he consistently overpowers SEC edge defenders at the point of attack. The former five-star high school prospect protected the blind side of Oklahoma’s Kyler Murray in high school.” - ESPN’s Mel Kiper
A.J. Brown CBS Sports overall rank: 24th Mel Kiper WR rank: 5th
What scouts are saying: When I go back and study the successful wide receivers at the NFL level, I’m always reminded of the most underrated quality they all have in common: toughness. That is the best aspect of Brown’s game. He plays physical from snap to whistle and isn’t afraid to work in the middle of the field. He can continue to learn and develop the craft of being a successful route runner and pass catcher, but you can’t coach toughness. He’s got it. - NFL.com’s Daniel Jeremiah
D.K. Metcalf CBS Sports overall rank: 31st Mel Kiper WR rank: 4th
What scouts are saying: Metcalf is undoubtedly one of college football’s most intimidating downfield threats. He’s not only a burner. Metcalf has consistently showcased impressive wiggle in the open field and plus contact balance when absorbing hits in the open field. Unsurprisingly, he’s a capable high-pointer as well. My comparison for Metcalf is Josh Gordon, another tall, physical receiver with impressive athleticism and serious speed to take the top off any defense.” - CBS Sports’ Chris Trapasso
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Post by olemiss on Dec 14, 2018 15:02:15 GMT -5
If Pats can't/don't get one of the 3 above Ole Miss Players, then I hope they get Montez Sweat DE from Miss State or Clemson DT Dexter Lawrence. Pats have many positional needs, so any of these playesr would be great additions for 2019.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 14, 2018 19:20:33 GMT -5
Below is my updated draft board/watch list. I'll continue to update is as more info/tape becomes available. NOTE: I've also added this to the OP. Good stuff, love when you do these. You know I don't watch much college ball until bowl and championship season and don't start on the draft stuff till like Feb-March. Your list always saves me lots of time as a jumping off point when I get there. I will add that the LB from Wisconsin has caught my eye, and the LB from LSU is lightning. Yeah man, Devin White is a blast to watch... so fast and physical. D'Andre Walker has some fun tape too. He's an undersized edge rusher in Georgia's scheme, but man can he play violent. I also think Julian Love is the perfect BB corner. If he run's sub-4.5, I could see them pulling the trigger in Rd 1, as brings fantastic cover, instincts, recognition and balls skills... and you won't find many CB's that tackle better. Just a fantastic all-around player, that was elected captain as a true junior... so he prob would be one again, if he returns to school (I don't think he will). I also feel like this draft could be prime to land their next great slot player.... whether it be a jumbo athlete in AJ Brown, or the more prototypical sized Deebo Samuel, Andy Isabella or Hunter Renfrow. Check out Isabella's tape... he's a Umass kid that shredded Georgia.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 14, 2018 19:22:27 GMT -5
If Pats can't/don't get one of the 3 above Ole Miss Players, then I hope they get Montez Sweat DE from Miss State or Clemson DT Dexter Lawrence. Pats have many positional needs, so any of these playesr would be great additions for 2019. I'm not saying I don't like Montez Sweat, I just think he'd be undersized for their scheme, if he's really 245. They like their edge players in the 260+ range (pre-draft). Lawrence definitely looks like a fit, as that big, dancing bear... and, like Big Vince, it's been said that he can dunk a basketball, at 340 (or so) pounds.
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Post by oklahomapatriot on Dec 14, 2018 19:32:43 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong I watched him all season and appreciate every thing he done to get OU to the CFB playoffs. But he's not pro football QB material. Plus he's only a junior, and I don't think he'll declare himself for the draft and pass up a $5 mil contract with the Oakland A's. In regards to the $, sure he'd get almost $5M in guaranteed money playing baseball, and it's an easier sport on the body... but there's also a chance that he never sniffs the bigs. Whereas, the #1 overall pick in the 2018 draft (Baker Mayfield scored over $32M guaranteed. Also, to give a few other examples, Tremaine Edmunds, the 16th pick, got over $12M guaranteed... and the the 32nd Pick (Lamar Jackson) came away with over $8M guaranteed... so he's likely to make a lot more, in the near future, playing football. Even if he leads OKla to win the CFB championship and declares for the NFL he'll be at least a 4th rounder, and make as much as he would in baseball. He's no Baker Mayfield
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 14, 2018 19:41:23 GMT -5
In regards to the $, sure he'd get almost $5M in guaranteed money playing baseball, and it's an easier sport on the body... but there's also a chance that he never sniffs the bigs. Whereas, the #1 overall pick in the 2018 draft (Baker Mayfield scored over $32M guaranteed. Also, to give a few other examples, Tremaine Edmunds, the 16th pick, got over $12M guaranteed... and the the 32nd Pick (Lamar Jackson) came away with over $8M guaranteed... so he's likely to make a lot more, in the near future, playing football. Even if he leads OKla to win the CFB championship and declares for the NFL he'll be at least a 4th rounder, and make as much as he would in baseball. He's no Baker Mayfield If he declares for the NFL draft, and teams think he's serious, I personally think he goes in Rd 1. I love Baker Mayfield, but I don't see a reason why Murray couldn't be just as good... he's just so physically gift. It also shows an interesting dichotomy between their two paths to the Heisman. Mayfield was technically a two time walk-n, while Murray was a 5* recruit, and the #1/2 dual-thread QB in the nation.
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Post by oklahomapatriot on Dec 14, 2018 19:46:30 GMT -5
Even if he leads OKla to win the CFB championship and declares for the NFL he'll be at least a 4th rounder, and make as much as he would in baseball. He's no Baker Mayfield If he declares for the NFL draft, and teams think he's serious, I personally think he goes in Rd 1. I love Baker Mayfield, but I don't see a reason why Murray couldn't be just as good... he's just so physically gift. It also shows an interesting dichotomy between their two paths to the Heisman. Mayfield was technically a two time walk-n, while Murray was a 5* recruit, and the #1/2 dual-thread QB in the nation. Some valid points. I never doubt your rationale. I just don't see it though. he'd never be able to see over the tall NFL d line or even his own oline. He'd end up like RG3.
Not bad that a two time walk on won the Heisman and was the #1 pick though
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 14, 2018 20:03:31 GMT -5
If he declares for the NFL draft, and teams think he's serious, I personally think he goes in Rd 1. I love Baker Mayfield, but I don't see a reason why Murray couldn't be just as good... he's just so physically gift. It also shows an interesting dichotomy between their two paths to the Heisman. Mayfield was technically a two time walk-n, while Murray was a 5* recruit, and the #1/2 dual-thread QB in the nation. Some valid points. I never doubt your rationale. I just don't see it though. he'd never be able to see over the tall NFL d line or even his own oline. He'd end up like RG3.
Not bad that a two time walk on won the Heisman and was the #1 pick though
You could also argue that he'd end up like Russell Wilson (smarter about protecting himself). Oklahoma didn't have any Trent Brown sized tackles this year, but all (5) of their starting O-lineman were over 6-3 or 6-4, which is very similar to NE's OL (especially if Wynn starts at one of the OT positions next year)... and he has some experience operating behind Orlando Brown last year, who's one of few OL in the league that are close to Trent Brown's size. Overall, I think we agree that his size is definitely not ideal though.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 14, 2018 20:46:17 GMT -5
Below is my updated draft board/watch list. I'll continue to update is as more info/tape becomes available. NOTE: I've also added this to the OP. Good stuff, love when you do these. You know I don't watch much college ball until bowl and championship season and don't start on the draft stuff till like Feb-March. Your list always saves me lots of time as a jumping off point when I get there. I will add that the LB from Wisconsin has caught my eye, and the LB from LSU is lightning. Oh, and TJ Hockenson looks like a potential two-way stud at TE.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 14, 2018 21:06:45 GMT -5
LB Quart’e Sapp declares for the draft. Can play inside or outside. Does anyone know anything about him? Played for the vols. He was a four star LB from georgia in high school. He had a productive 2017 season.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 14, 2018 21:29:20 GMT -5
LB Quart’e Sapp declares for the draft. Can play inside or outside. Does anyone know anything about him? Played for the vols. He was a four star LB from georgia in high school. He had a productive 2017 season. The Vols HC Jeremy Pruitt (from the Saban Tree) sent him to the locker room, in Sept, for refusing to enter the game against Florida, like he was told. Not sure I need to know more, haha. That's literally the first thing I read about the player.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 17, 2018 22:13:16 GMT -5
Oh my. If the rest of his tape is anything like this, he'll be in the running for my favorite overall player in this draft class.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 18, 2018 0:31:58 GMT -5
Oh my. If the rest of his tape is anything like this, he'll be in the running for my favorite overall player in this draft class. You can check him out the rest of the game on this youtube. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvNtixjUKeA
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 18, 2018 9:28:23 GMT -5
Oh my. If the rest of his tape is anything like this, he'll be in the running for my favorite overall player in this draft class. You can check him out the rest of the game on this youtube. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvNtixjUKeAThanks man, I watched that, along with a highlights tape, and his games against Lafayette and Elon, and I think he has Rd 1 potential. He looks like a total packaged, with speed, quicks, instincts, athleticism, ball-skills, physicality, versatility, effort and tackling ability, and he's dominated his division, which is what you want to see from a 1AA prospect. If he performs well at the Senior Bowl (can't wait to see how to does there), I think he's a Top 50 prospect that could easily make it into Rd 1... especially if he's close to 6-0 200.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 20, 2018 12:50:13 GMT -5
My sleeper QB for the 2019 draft:
Player: Easton Stick North Dakota State
Listed Size: 6-2 221
Accomplishments: Three-time captain, three-year starter, 2018 FCS 1st Team All-American, has NDSU in the FCS championship game for the 3rd straight year, with a chance to win back-to-back titles. If successful, that'd make im 49-3 as a starter, I believe.
Fit:
Experience in a pro-style system.
Ability to make pre-post snap reads, and work through progressions.
Accurate, both in the pocket and on the move.
Keeps his eyes down the field.
Good pocket awareness.
Clean mechanics.
Very good at selling play-action.
Very good athlete.
Mobile and can beat you with his legs/extend plays.
Solid frame.
Arm will get the job done.
Good leader and has his degree.
Overall: No, he's not Carson Wentz, but that's OK. However, like Wentz, he's been a highly successful, team leader that's excelled operating in more of a pro-style offense, with experience under center and your 3-5-7 step drops, and calling audibles... and is efficient in the play-action game. He also displays clean mechanics with the ability to manipulate/step-up in the pocket, and while he doesn't have a howitzer of an arm, he can make all the throws. Heck he even sounds like a Patriots player, talking about how teams need to be strong in all-three phases, and he even wears #12. At this point, in what's considered a relatively weak QB class, I seem him as a potential mid-round player, with the potential to come off the board on Day 2, with a strong showing in an all-star game (he's scheduled to play in the East/West Shrine game) and other pre-draft activities. I just really enjoyed watching him play on tape, and feel like he could be on NE short, short-list of QB's (along with Duke's Daniel Jones), based on the skills/intangibles/experience mentioned above. Oh, and he checks all the boxes for "Bill Parcells Principles" for drafting a QB. 1. He's a senior, 2. He has his degree, 3. He was a three-year starter, 4. He's started at least (30) games, 5. He has at least (23) wins, 6. he's posted at least a 2:1 TD to INT ration (72:23) and 7. He's completed at least 60% of his passes (495 of 825, which is exactly 60%).
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 21, 2018 20:50:01 GMT -5
One of my favorite parts of researching/analyzing potential draft prospects is watching tape of a player that isn't yet listed on most draft boards, and/or isn't talked up much in many publications, and being pretty blown away with what I see. It gets you thinking,"wow, what have I found?" or "how come this player isn't being hyped up more nationally?". Granted he's a 2020 player and has yet to declare, but I'd expect his name to pick up a ton of steam if he does.
Any guesses on who the player is? I'll provide a few hints... 1. He plays on defense, and 2. He was named his teams MVP.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 22, 2018 9:30:37 GMT -5
No guesses on the player I referenced in my last post, so I'll just profile him.
Like I said, if he declares, I think his name is gonna blow up, and he'll become quite the popular name no this thread/board, as well as across the draft community.
Player: Kenny Willekes / EDGE/ Michigan State
Listed Size: 6-4 260
Accomplishments: Team Captain, Two-year starter, Team MVP, Big-Ten Defensive POTY, Walter Camp Second Team All-American
Fit:
Has the engine, energy of a locomotive.
Plays through the echo of the whistle.
Good juice of the snap.
Sets a solid edge.
Extremely aware as a run defender, and does his job.
He'll fight you.
Heavyweight hands.
Very strong upper body, and frequently tosses blockers to the ground.
Good range, and excellent in pursuit.
Good size and length.
Self made.
Extremely productive.
Overall: He was a destroyer on tape. Big, amp'd, strong, physical, and powerful... he bullied Ohio State's OT's, tossing or driving them into the ground on multiple occasions... heck, one one play (I think it was at the 10:25 mark), he tossed two blockers to the ground at the same time. He's also a self made player... as he was a zero-star recruit that joined the team as a walk-on, and didn't earn a scholarship until last season (his first as a starter). Fast-forward to this year, and he's an all-american, having racked up 15.5 sacks and 35 TFL over the past two-seasons, leaving the carnage of a conquering viking hoard in his wake. He's also listed as a 2020 prospect, and has yet to declare for the draft, however, if he does, I think his stock will skyrocket, and he'll end up in the Rd 1 discussion. I've watched a lot of tape over the years, and he has some of the best that I've seen.
Give him a look:
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 22, 2018 12:42:38 GMT -5
I like Willekes a lot, MB. I saw him against MI. I thought he was the best player on that MSU D. I have not really looked him up since, so I did not realize he is 6-4,260. Anyhow... he made 21 TFLs this season, building on the prior season when he got 13 --> Still growing his game OR will be a good test for him. Herbert is pretty talented. And there is plenty of speed he will be dealing with there.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 22, 2018 13:04:44 GMT -5
This team needs players upfront that are known in college football. Look where derek rivers is right now. The guy can’t get on the damn field.
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Post by fisher on Dec 22, 2018 13:50:54 GMT -5
He may not be back all the way from his acl surgery.... If he gets waived you'll know why he's not playing..
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Post by lowfbiq on Dec 22, 2018 14:22:49 GMT -5
This team needs players upfront that are known in college football. Look where derek rivers is right now. The guy can’t get on the damn field. I'm not sure what that means exactly. Rivers was known. He was on peoples radar going into the draft if you follow the draft threads here as well as all the draft-niks on the internet. You can see right here that the Pats drafted him right in line with Rivers projected draft round. www.draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1004846&draftyear=2017&genpos=DEIf what you mean is not what you said but you want a top 10 player, then yes sure, but the Pats have to start sucking to get those guys.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Dec 22, 2018 15:02:24 GMT -5
This team needs players upfront that are known in college football. Look where derek rivers is right now. The guy can’t get on the damn field. I'm not sure what that means exactly. Rivers was known. He was on peoples radar going into the draft if you follow the draft threads here as well as all the draft-niks on the internet. You can see right here that the Pats drafted him right in line with Rivers projected draft round. www.draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1004846&draftyear=2017&genpos=DEIf what you mean is not what you said but you want a top 10 player, then yes sure, but the Pats have to start sucking to get those guys. Not top 10 guys. You can get pass rushers in the later rounds. I was a fan of the rivers pick when selected. I just wonder why the guy can’t get on the field. Does he suck that bad?
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 22, 2018 19:38:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure what that means exactly. Rivers was known. He was on peoples radar going into the draft if you follow the draft threads here as well as all the draft-niks on the internet. You can see right here that the Pats drafted him right in line with Rivers projected draft round. www.draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1004846&draftyear=2017&genpos=DEIf what you mean is not what you said but you want a top 10 player, then yes sure, but the Pats have to start sucking to get those guys. Not top 10 guys. You can get pass rushers in the later rounds. I was a fan of the rivers pick when selected. I just wonder why the guy can’t get on the field. Does he suck that bad? What does that mean in the context of the 2017 draft? Past pick 15, here is the list of DEs taken before Rivers, with their respective 2018 tackle and sack counts: 17 Jonathan Allen 51/7 22 Charles Harris 6/0 26 Takkarist McKinley 13/5.5 28 Taco Charlton 10/1 51 Demarcus Walker 2/1 59 Tanoh Kpassagnon 4/0 68 Dawuane Smoot 4/1 73 Jordan Willis 12/1 74 Chris Wormley 15/1 77 Daeshon Hall 0/0 78 Tarell Basham 7/0 Other than Allen who was picked way before NE had their first chance, who do you think would have fared better in NE than Rivers?
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