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Post by wazzu on Apr 23, 2019 20:03:53 GMT -5
Man, it's really, really late in the game to change your mind on a guy, but I watched a little more tape on Mississippi State Safety Jonathan Abram today. MB is right about his missed tackles. He needs to improve on getting the guy on the ground. He needs to wrap up and take the easy tackles rather than always going for the huge hits. But man, I really love his speed and energy. He just plays with so much energy and enthusiasm. I think a defense will feed off of his energy in the NFL. I have to say, I didn't give him much of a chance throughout this entire process due to missed tackles, but after another look, I'd be pretty thrilled if NE got him. I think Belichick can coach up his tackling technique. I think that level of excitement that he brings is something that can't be taught.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 23, 2019 20:09:42 GMT -5
What players at #32 would have you pretty uninspired or even slightly disappointed if taken in that spot? QB: any of them projected to be available in that spot WR: Probably any of them but there are one or two I might feel ok with depending how the rest of the draft haul panned out TE: any of them outside of Hock RB: any of them Little comes to mind, because of his inconsistencies with effort and finishing plays... but there's no other tandem that I'd have drafting OT's, so it'd speak to their confidence in him, or their ability to get more out of him if he was taken there. I'm also not the biggest N'keal Harry fan, and would prefer other WR's there, if they go that route. He's more Rd 2 for me... particularly if Campbell, Samuel, Brown, and maybe even JJAW are still on the board. And while a QB at the end of round 1 would be boring in the short term, it sure would signify that they have a succession an in place at the most important position.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 23, 2019 20:13:20 GMT -5
Man, it's really, really late in the game to change your mind on a guy, but I watched a little more tape on Mississippi State Safety Jonathan Abram today. MB is right about his missed tackles. He needs to improve on getting the guy on the ground. He needs to wrap up and take the easy tackles rather than always going for the huge hits. But man, I really love his speed and energy. He just plays with so much energy and enthusiasm. I think a defense will feed off of his energy in the NFL. I have to say, I didn't give him much of a chance throughout this entire process due to missed tackles, but after another look, I'd be pretty thrilled if NE got him. I think Belichick can coach up his tackling technique. I think that level of excitement that he brings is something that can't be taught. He certainly plays with an edge! There are other safeties that I prefer over him (prob the same few as you), but if they can clean that aspect of his game up (believe he misses 11 in 2018), I wouldnt hate it.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 23, 2019 20:23:13 GMT -5
Man, it's really, really late in the game to change your mind on a guy, but I watched a little more tape on Mississippi State Safety Jonathan Abram today. MB is right about his missed tackles. He needs to improve on getting the guy on the ground. He needs to wrap up and take the easy tackles rather than always going for the huge hits. But man, I really love his speed and energy. He just plays with so much energy and enthusiasm. I think a defense will feed off of his energy in the NFL. I have to say, I didn't give him much of a chance throughout this entire process due to missed tackles, but after another look, I'd be pretty thrilled if NE got him. I think Belichick can coach up his tackling technique. I think that level of excitement that he brings is something that can't be taught. He certainly plays with an edge! There are other safeties that I prefer over him (prob the same few as you), but if they can clean that aspect of his game up (believe he misses 11 in 2018), I wouldnt hate it. Agree. I think we’re on the same page with the Safties. This is a strong class at that position.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 23, 2019 21:23:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:28:57 GMT -5
Post Seahawks/Chiefs trade Mock If Simmons gets into the 20’s I think BB swoops in. Second best player in the draft behind Q Williams imo.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 24, 2019 1:36:01 GMT -5
Post Seahawks/Chiefs trade Mock He doesn’t have Jones or Haskins in the first round? That’s a big stretch. Those guys will be selected in the first round.
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Post by patslifer on Apr 24, 2019 6:30:51 GMT -5
Greg Little. Any safety from Rutgers or Stanford. I have a feeling it will be greg little. I am not much a fan of risner because he struggles with speed rushers. I guess it depends on what position each will play. Risner will be a good RT or G. Not sure where little Would be good. There’s like 3-5 OTs that can be had from 32-96 that have starting LT potential.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 7:35:23 GMT -5
I have a feeling it will be greg little. I am not much a fan of risner because he struggles with speed rushers. I guess it depends on what position each will play. Risner will be a good RT or G. Not sure where little Would be good. There’s like 3-5 OTs that can be had from 32-96 that have starting LT potential. Calling Bobby Brown! He works with Dante, very nice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 8:47:46 GMT -5
Hardest Mock I ever put together. Didn't do any Trades, just 12 picks, and see if we get them. So many I like that we just wont get. Tomorrow Big Day. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILNDWCLVnpw Song that reminds me of Draft Day. Starts slow, and goes full bore.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 24, 2019 9:06:02 GMT -5
MB, sleeping on Ole Miss Rebs? Try some of these fine talented players on your board: QB - Jordan Ta'amu WR - A.J. Jones & D.J. Metcalf - widely considered to be the best WR tandem in the SEC LT - Greg Little - all SEC last year and All-American this year LG - Javon Patterson NT - Benito Jones - all SEC last season. You think little would be a good selection?
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 24, 2019 10:13:54 GMT -5
Here are (21) superlatives that I've come up with during my research of the 2019 Draft Class:
1. "My Favorite player in the class." – Taylor Rapp S Washington
2. "The most underrated player." – Khari Willis S Michigan State
3. "The most overrated player." – Rashan Gary EDGE Michigan
4. "I'd really like to see more tape of this player." – Nick Allegretti OL Illinois
5. "The best offensive player that no one really talks about." – Michael Deiter OL Wisconsin
6. “The best defensive player that no one really talks about.” – Cody Barton LB Utah
7. "The best defensive player that most have never heard of." – Cortez Broughton DT Cincinnati
8. “The best offensive player that most have never heard of.” – Darrin Hall RB Pitt
9. “I just don’t want him.” – Greg Little OT Ole Miss
10. "The player that grew on me the most." – Parris Campbell WR/KR Ohio State
11. "The player ever fan in NE wants." – Andy Isabella WR Umass 12. “He sure looks like a NE OT.” – Kaleb McGary OT Washington
13. “The most polarizing player in the class.” – DK Metcalf WR Ole Miss
14. "I'd pound the table for this kid all day!" – Drue Tranquill LB Notre Dame
15. “I’d pound the table for this kid too!” – Lamont Gaillard OL Georgia
16. "BB's Day 3, Special Teams, ahh... Special." – Michael Walker PR/KR Boston College
17. “Scar, Brett (Bielema), who do you think we should draft?” – Hjalte Froholdt OL Arkansas
18. “The Player I’m most on the fence about.” – Jonathan Abram S Mississippi State
19. “He’ll be a much better pro than college player.” - Dawson Knox TE Ole Miss
20. “He has the perfect Patriots Resume’.” – Dalton Risner OL Kansas State
21. “He looks just like Stephen Belichick.” – Andrew Wingard S Wyomnig
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Apr 24, 2019 10:24:02 GMT -5
Here are (21) superlatives that I've come up with during my research of the 2019 Draft Class: 1. "My Favorite player in the class." – Taylor Rapp S Washington 2. "The most underrated player." – Khari Willis S Michigan State 3. "The most overrated player." – Rashan Gary EDGE Michigan 4. "I'd really like to see more tape of this player." – Nick Allegretti OL Illinois 5. "The best offensive player that no one really talks about." – Michael Deiter OL Wisconsin 6. “The best defensive player that no one really talks about.” – Cody Barton LB Utah 7. "The best defensive player that most have never heard of." – Cortez Broughton DT Cincinnati 8. “The best offensive player that most have never heard of.” – Darrin Hall RB Pitt 9. “I just don’t want him.” – Greg Little OT Ole Miss 10. "The player that grew on me the most." – Parris Campbell WR/KR Ohio State 11. "The player ever fan in NE wants." – Andy Isabella WR Umass 12. “He sure looks like a NE OT.” – Kaleb McGary OT Washington 13. “The most polarizing player in the class.” – DK Metcalf WR Ole Miss 14. "I'd pound the table for this kid all day!" – Drue Tranquill LB Notre Dame 15. “I’d pound the table for this kid too!” – Lamont Gaillard OL Georgia 16. "BB's Day 3, Special Teams, ahh... Special." – Michael Walker PR/KR Boston College 17. “Scar, Brett (Bielema), who do you think we should draft?” – Hjalte Froholdt OL Arkansas 18. “The Player I’m most on the fence about.” – Jonathan Abram S Mississippi State 19. “He’ll be a much better pro than college player.” - Dawson Knox TE Ole Miss 20. “He has the perfect Patriots Resume’.” – Dalton Risner OL Kansas State 21. “He looks just like Stephen Belichick.” – Andrew Wingard S Wyomnig You’re that high on rapp? His ability to play in space worries me.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 24, 2019 10:36:24 GMT -5
Here are (21) superlatives that I've come up with during my research of the 2019 Draft Class: 1. "My Favorite player in the class." – Taylor Rapp S Washington 2. "The most underrated player." – Khari Willis S Michigan State 3. "The most overrated player." – Rashan Gary EDGE Michigan 4. "I'd really like to see more tape of this player." – Nick Allegretti OL Illinois 5. "The best offensive player that no one really talks about." – Michael Deiter OL Wisconsin 6. “The best defensive player that no one really talks about.” – Cody Barton LB Utah 7. "The best defensive player that most have never heard of." – Cortez Broughton DT Cincinnati 8. “The best offensive player that most have never heard of.” – Darrin Hall RB Pitt 9. “I just don’t want him.” – Greg Little OT Ole Miss 10. "The player that grew on me the most." – Parris Campbell WR/KR Ohio State 11. "The player ever fan in NE wants." – Andy Isabella WR Umass 12. “He sure looks like a NE OT.” – Kaleb McGary OT Washington 13. “The most polarizing player in the class.” – DK Metcalf WR Ole Miss 14. "I'd pound the table for this kid all day!" – Drue Tranquill LB Notre Dame 15. “I’d pound the table for this kid too!” – Lamont Gaillard OL Georgia 16. "BB's Day 3, Special Teams, ahh... Special." – Michael Walker PR/KR Boston College 17. “Scar, Brett (Bielema), who do you think we should draft?” – Hjalte Froholdt OL Arkansas 18. “The Player I’m most on the fence about.” – Jonathan Abram S Mississippi State 19. “He’ll be a much better pro than college player.” - Dawson Knox TE Ole Miss 20. “He has the perfect Patriots Resume’.” – Dalton Risner OL Kansas State 21. “He looks just like Stephen Belichick.” – Andrew Wingard S Wyomnig You’re that high on rapp? His ability to play in space worries me. Favorite player doesn't = best player.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 24, 2019 11:27:54 GMT -5
One interesting nugget. New England has never drafted a player from Clemson, South Carolina, or Ole Miss. I wonder if that will change this year?
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Post by PatsFanInExile on Apr 24, 2019 11:48:24 GMT -5
One interesting nugget. New England has never drafted a player from Clemson, South Carolina, or Ole Miss. I wonder if that will change this year? I take your post to mean “in the BB era”. Johnny Rembert came to mind immediately (Clemson), but there are others (pre-BB).
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Post by thejuice on Apr 24, 2019 11:57:45 GMT -5
One interesting nugget. New England has never drafted a player from Clemson, South Carolina, or Ole Miss. I wonder if that will change this year? Last pats player drafted from Clemson was CB Jerome Henderson in 1991. Last pats player drafted from So Carolina was Guard Calvin Stephens in 1991 Last pats player drafted from Ole Miss was WR Kenneth Toler In 1981
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Post by olemiss on Apr 24, 2019 12:58:30 GMT -5
One interesting nugget. New England has never drafted a player from Clemson, South Carolina, or Ole Miss. I wonder if that will change this year? Hell Yeah!
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Post by wazzu on Apr 24, 2019 13:07:10 GMT -5
One interesting nugget. New England has never drafted a player from Clemson, South Carolina, or Ole Miss. I wonder if that will change this year? I take your post to mean “in the BB era”. Johnny Rembert came to mind immediately (Clemson), but there are others (pre-BB). Yes. In the Belichick era. My mistake.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 24, 2019 13:18:20 GMT -5
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 24, 2019 13:23:02 GMT -5
Who is everyone's Rd 1 sleeper? Essentially a player that is never rated or mocked as a Rd 1 prospect.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 24, 2019 13:27:36 GMT -5
Who is everyone's Rd 1 sleeper? Essentially a player that is never rated or mocked as a Rd 1 prospect. Not sure he is never but I at least think rarely Kaleb McGary
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 24, 2019 14:45:18 GMT -5
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Post by wazzu on Apr 24, 2019 15:12:21 GMT -5
Who is everyone's Rd 1 sleeper? Essentially a player that is never rated or mocked as a Rd 1 prospect. Anthony Nelson. Edge. Iowa
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 24, 2019 15:19:17 GMT -5
Who is everyone's Rd 1 sleeper? Essentially a player that is never rated or mocked as a Rd 1 prospect. Not sure he is never but I at least think rarely Kaleb McGary Good name. He'll be a Rd 2 name on my final draft, but could def see him sliding into Rd 1.
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