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Post by wazzu on Feb 6, 2019 10:06:34 GMT -5
Now that our #32 pick is locked in (Man, I love that pick!!!) I’m going to try to throw another Mock out there a little later today when I get some time.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 6, 2019 12:10:25 GMT -5
So... who will Mayock pick for the Raiders at #4? I am guessing they go for Haskins. Whoever Gruden tells him to pick, haha. It sure will be interesting to see if they draft a QB though... and, I mean, if you're gonna blow things up, like he has, then you should get your guy in there, if you think he's the one. I think it'll be QB or DL.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 6, 2019 12:37:48 GMT -5
Here is a Mock that has Hock, Fant, & Irv ALL getting picked before pick 32 this year 2 round MockBased on this scenario, give me Adderley, Omenihu or Samuel at #32, and since they didn't Omenihu going in the first two rounds, give me Samuel at #32, Adderley at #56, and Omenihu, Nauta or Dalton Risner at #63
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 6, 2019 12:45:59 GMT -5
Here is a Mock that has Hock, Fant, & Irv ALL getting picked before pick 32 this year 2 round MockThose are the three TEs I like head and shoulders above others. I may be proven wrong at the Combine and Pro Days, but the others look a tad slow to me. As you can tell by that comment, I believe speed is important in a TE... well, if they are to be a mismatch for LBs. Gronk, Whitten, Kelce, Ertz, I believe, all ran sub-4.7 on the 40 yard dash. It's also worth noting that George Kittle ran a 4.52, though he wasn't viewed as a premium prospect when he came out, and wasn't drafted until Rd 5. I also prob wouldn't touch a TE in Rd 1, if he didn't run in the 4.6's or better.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 6, 2019 12:47:25 GMT -5
Deep Fried Draft big board 32: R1P32 TE T.J. HOCKENSON IOWA - complete TE, Irv Smith would be good 2nd choice. 56: R2P24 S TAYLOR RAPP WASHINGTON - Chung replacement 64: R2P32 RB ELIJAH HOLYFIELD GEORGIA - two dogs are better than one 73: R3P9 QB JARRETT STIDHAM AUBURN - flavor of the minute, I will change my mind another 1000 times 97: R3P33 EDGE JOE JACKSON MIAMI (FL) - think he has the tools that NE can develop 101: R3P37 WR KEELAN DOSS UC-DAVIS - Keenan Allen anyone, now we get to make up for that missed pick. 134: R4P32 DL DAYLON MACK TEXAS A&M - strong at POA with some energy; need DL if Brown and Shelton go 175: R5P36 OT MITCH HYATT CLEMSON - depth 241: R7P25 LB OTARO ALAKA TEXAS A&M - bigger LB, developmental 252: R7P36 DL OLIVE SAGAPOLU WISCONSIN - 2 down plug stop If he ended up with (3) of my favorite prospects in the draft in Rd's 1 and 2, I don't think I'd even care about who he drafted after that, haha.
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Post by lowfbiq on Feb 6, 2019 12:50:27 GMT -5
Here is a Mock that has Hock, Fant, & Irv ALL getting picked before pick 32 this year 2 round MockBased on this scenario, give me Adderley, Omenihu or Samuel at #32, and since they didn't Omenihu going in the first two rounds, give me Samuel at #32, Adderley at #56, and Omenihu, Nauta or Dalton Risner at #63 I need to watch Risner play. I have only seen him in one on ones at the senior bowl. While he manhandled and whipped some dudes to the ground, he also got beat pretty badly on a few inside moves.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 6, 2019 13:04:05 GMT -5
Based on this scenario, give me Adderley, Omenihu or Samuel at #32, and since they didn't Omenihu going in the first two rounds, give me Samuel at #32, Adderley at #56, and Omenihu, Nauta or Dalton Risner at #63 I need to watch Risner play. I have only seen him in one on ones at the senior bowl. While he manhandled and whipped some dudes to the ground, he also got beat pretty badly on a few inside moves. He's a bad dude, and looks like a BB/Scar type of OL... longtime starter, physical and nasty, 3-time captain, and has started at multiple positions. He also seemed to get the better of Montez Sweat in their match-up.
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Post by wazzu on Feb 6, 2019 13:25:04 GMT -5
Post Super Bowl Mock Draft
NE trades #32 to Oakland for #131 (5th) & #182 (6th). OAK moves up for Kyler Murray. Gruden makes a splash.
#35: Taylor Raap S UW
NE trades #56 & #131 (via OAK) to MIN for #50
#50: Jerry Tillery DT ND
NE trades #64, 3rd Rnd Comp, & #182 (via OAK) to TEN for #51
#51: Deebo Samuel WR S. Carolina
#73: Tre Lamar LB Clemson
3rd Rnd Comp: Foster Moreau TE LSU
#127 (4th): Tyree Jackson QB Buffalo
6th Rnd Comp: Mark Fields Jr. CB Clemson
7th via CLE: Julian Rochester DT Georgia
7th via PHI: Mike Danna Edge Central Michigan
7th: Jordan Jones OLB Kentucky
7th Comp: Emanuel Butler WR N. Arizona
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Post by fisher on Feb 6, 2019 13:29:02 GMT -5
Post Super Bowl Mock Draft
NE trades #32 to Oakland for #131 (5th) & #182 (6th). OAK moves up for Kyler Murray. Gruden makes a splash.
#35: Taylor Raap S UW NE trades #56 & #131 (via OAK) to MIN for #50
#50: Jerry Tillery DT ND NE trades #64, 3rd Rnd Comp, & #182 (via OAK) to TEN for #51
#51: Deebo Samuel WR S. Carolina #73: Tre Lamar LB Clemson 3rd Rnd Comp: Foster Moreau TE LSU #127 (4th): Tyree Jackson QB Buffalo 6th Rnd Comp: Mark Fields Jr. CB Clemson 7th via CLE: Julian Rochester DT Georgia 7th via PHI: Mike Danna Edge Central Michigan 7th: Jordan Jones OLB Kentucky 7th Comp: Emanuel Butler WR N. Arizona Get get those 1st 4 and I'll just go to the Jason Aldean saloon in Nashville and be very happy ... The remaining choices will be ok
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 9:15:15 GMT -5
The 32 pick in the Draft is huge. Pats can absolutely use this pick this year, to move up for a QB, in 2020. That's when they should really think about one. That 5th year Option, is a HUGE chip, for a Team wanting to get back into the Round for a QB, that fell slightly. Get the hook ready, time to go fishing.
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Post by wazzu on Feb 7, 2019 10:02:18 GMT -5
The 32 pick in the Draft is huge. Pats can absolutely use this pick this year, to move up for a QB, in 2020. That's when they should really think about one. That 5th year Option, is a HUGE chip, for a Team wanting to get back into the Round for a QB, that fell slightly. Get the hook ready, time to go fishing. I don’t think they will trade that pick into 2020 for 2 reasons. First, I’m not sure there will be a QB next year that they love. Second, always remember, it takes 2 teams to make a trade. There may not be a taker, at least not at the value NE is looking for. We’ll see, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 11:14:15 GMT -5
2020, Jake Fromm is my target. Like this kid a lot. He should come out. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChpJ8PSCHLM Lots of these were Freshman Highlights. He's only going to get better.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 7, 2019 11:36:24 GMT -5
Fromm will be in the discussion to go #1 overall in 2020, if he keeps doing his thing, then declares.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Feb 7, 2019 11:36:35 GMT -5
I am still hoping we go tight end with the first pick of a defensive linemen.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 7, 2019 11:41:43 GMT -5
Post Super Bowl Mock Draft
NE trades #32 to Oakland for #131 (5th) & #182 (6th). OAK moves up for Kyler Murray. Gruden makes a splash.
#35: Taylor Raap S UW NE trades #56 & #131 (via OAK) to MIN for #50
#50: Jerry Tillery DT ND NE trades #64, 3rd Rnd Comp, & #182 (via OAK) to TEN for #51
#51: Deebo Samuel WR S. Carolina #73: Tre Lamar LB Clemson 3rd Rnd Comp: Foster Moreau TE LSU #127 (4th): Tyree Jackson QB Buffalo 6th Rnd Comp: Mark Fields Jr. CB Clemson 7th via CLE: Julian Rochester DT Georgia 7th via PHI: Mike Danna Edge Central Michigan 7th: Jordan Jones OLB Kentucky 7th Comp: Emanuel Butler WR N. Arizona I'll take that all day. Love Rapp and Samuel, and Tillery is an extremely talented dude, with Seymour-esque size. The biggest knock on him is, he's an extremely intelligent dude, and has interests other than football, so he'll need to prove to teams that football is his #1 priority. I also like Moreau, and he's been solid in the blocking game at LSU, but I would hope for more of a passing weapon of they take a TE on Day 2. Jackson has some extremely intriguing physical traits and could be a solid developmental option in that range.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Feb 7, 2019 11:43:41 GMT -5
Fromm will be in the discussion to go #1 overall in 2020, if he keeps doing his thing, then declares. The problem with fromm is that he has small hands. Georgia was just awful in the bowl game.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 7, 2019 11:51:57 GMT -5
I am still hoping we go tight end with the first pick of a defensive linemen. Edger rush I could see (with a guy like Omenihu), but outside of Dexter Lawrence, I really don't see another DT that I like at 32... as I'd expect Wilkins to be long gone... and Lawrence might only be a two down player, and has off-the-field questions. Dre'Mont Jones is somewhat of a big name, and offers interior pass-rush and athleticism, but hasn't been a strong run-defender, and Jeffrey Simmons hits women.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Feb 7, 2019 12:38:29 GMT -5
I am still hoping we go tight end with the first pick of a defensive linemen. Edger rush I could see (with a guy like Omenihu), but outside of Dexter Lawrence, I really don't see another DT that I like at 32... as I'd expect Wilkins to be long gone... and Lawrence might only be a two down player, and has off-the-field questions. Dre'Mont Jones is somewhat of a big name, and offers interior pass-rush and athleticism, but hasn't been a strong run-defender, and Jeffrey Simmons hits women. They can find a way to trade up this year if Bill wants his guy.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 7, 2019 13:15:33 GMT -5
Edger rush I could see (with a guy like Omenihu), but outside of Dexter Lawrence, I really don't see another DT that I like at 32... as I'd expect Wilkins to be long gone... and Lawrence might only be a two down player, and has off-the-field questions. Dre'Mont Jones is somewhat of a big name, and offers interior pass-rush and athleticism, but hasn't been a strong run-defender, and Jeffrey Simmons hits women. They can find a way to trade up this year if Bill wants his guy. Outside of Wilkins, I still don't see a DT that they'd trade up for... though with the TE's, I think it's possible that he could move up a bit for Hockenson, Fant or Smith, if he covets one, and the cost isn't too high. Then again, one of those (3) could be available at #32.
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Post by patslifer on Feb 7, 2019 14:10:26 GMT -5
They can find a way to trade up this year if Bill wants his guy. Outside of Wilkins, I still don't see a DT that they'd trade up for... though with the TE's, I think it's possible that he could move up a bit for Hockenson, Fant or Smith, if he covets one, and the cost isn't too high. Then again, one of those (3) could be available at #32. +1 On the TE's...I've seen quite few mocks that have Hockenson going in the top 15-20. I hope not. I really would love to draft this kid as I think he is going to be special.
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Post by lowfbiq on Feb 7, 2019 14:32:53 GMT -5
Kyler Murray WILL participate in the combine
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Post by wazzu on Feb 7, 2019 14:42:15 GMT -5
Kyler Murray WILL participate in the combine That’s good. His measurables will be very important.
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Post by fisher on Feb 7, 2019 14:44:07 GMT -5
It's really early to try to imagine who the Pats will pick (currently 12, I believe) but after watching the SB, WR's are needed in the worst way.. TE will be if Gronk and Allen are gone..
I haven't gotten to look at the top 5 a each position but it's going t be fun
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Feb 7, 2019 14:46:49 GMT -5
Outside of Wilkins, I still don't see a DT that they'd trade up for... though with the TE's, I think it's possible that he could move up a bit for Hockenson, Fant or Smith, if he covets one, and the cost isn't too high. Then again, one of those (3) could be available at #32. +1 On the TE's...I've seen quite few mocks that have Hockenson going in the top 15-20. I hope not. I really would love to draft this kid as I think he is going to be special. I like Fant and the kid from Alabama as well.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 7, 2019 15:10:48 GMT -5
Outside of Wilkins, I still don't see a DT that they'd trade up for... though with the TE's, I think it's possible that he could move up a bit for Hockenson, Fant or Smith, if he covets one, and the cost isn't too high. Then again, one of those (3) could be available at #32. +1 On the TE's...I've seen quite few mocks that have Hockenson going in the top 15-20. I hope not. I really would love to draft this kid as I think he is going to be special. Yeah, unfortunately, I think that's prob his likely range... and it wouldn't surprise me if he went in the top 10. Isaac Nauta, from Georgia, is the TE that I'm most excited to see more tape on. I think he could be a solid Day 2 pick for them at the position, if they move in a different direction in Rd 1.
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