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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 7:46:08 GMT -5
What was the deepest completion this year. I saw 1 at 42 yards. Even with Cooks, not Brady's strong suit, and he was a great Route runner. Sometimes you match up the Receivers to the QB, and system. Otherwise just wasting a spot. Still think with our Offense, a fast TE, will work just as well as Metcalf.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 17, 2019 8:47:06 GMT -5
What was the deepest completion this year. I saw 1 at 42 yards. Even with Cooks, not Brady's strong suit, and he was a great Route runner. Sometimes you match up the Receivers to the QB, and system. Otherwise just wasting a spot. Still think with our Offense, a fast TE, will work just as well as Metcalf. Two different positions, and they're gonna need to figure out their next move at both WR and TE, as there's a lot of age and/or uncertainty there. I think they can address both in this class.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 17, 2019 9:40:34 GMT -5
Here are (15) pre-combine superlatives:
My favorite player in the class: Taylor Rapp S Washington
Best case scenario: TJ Hockenson TE Iowa
I don’t want him… at all: Gerald Willis DT Miami
Why is he being mocked to NE in Rd 1? Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State
He’s a very good, safe, and complete player: Irv Smith Jr. TE Alabama
I’m on the fence: Johnathan Abram S Mississippi State
Most enjoyable tape: Elijah Holyfield RB Georgia
He sure looks like a BB linebacker: Te’von Coney LB Notre Dame
My Rd 1 Sleeper: Garrett Bradbury iOL NC State
If you liked Logan Ryan, you’ll like: Julian Love CB Notre Dame
He’ll be a much better pro than college player: Dawson Knox TE Ole Miss
Their next great, small, white slot-guy: Andy Isabella WR Umass
BB drafted WHO in Rd 2?! Malik Gant S Marshall
He’s still my sleeper QB: Easton Stick QB North Dakota State
“Has a little bit of crazy to him.” (Per TDN): Isaac Nauta TE Georgia
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Post by wazzu on Feb 17, 2019 9:43:09 GMT -5
Here are (15) pre-combine superlatives: My favorite player in the class: Taylor Rapp S Washington
Best case scenario: TJ Hockenson TE Iowa
I don’t want him… at all: Gerald Willis DT Miami
Why is he being mocked to NE in Rd 1? Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State
He’s a very good, safe, and complete player: Irv Smith Jr. TE Alabama
I’m on the fence: Johnathan Abram S Mississippi State
Most enjoyable tape: Elijah Holyfield RB Georgia
He sure looks like a BB linebacker: Te’von Coney LB Notre Dame
My Rd 1 Sleeper: Garrett Bradbury iOL NC State
If you liked Logan Ryan, you’ll like: Julian Love CB Notre Dame
He’ll be a much better pro than college player: Dawson Knox TE Ole Miss
Their next great, small, white slot-guy: Andy Isabella WR Umass
BB drafted WHO in Rd 2?! Malik Gant S Marshall
He’s still my sleeper QB: Easton Stick QB North Dakota State
“Has a little bit of crazy to him.” (Per TDN): Isaac Nauta TE Georgia
Great stuff!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:28:07 GMT -5
Only MB would come out with next great, small white slot-guy. hahahaha Senior Bowl, he turned my head.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Feb 17, 2019 11:36:48 GMT -5
Here are (15) pre-combine superlatives: My favorite player in the class: Taylor Rapp S Washington
Best case scenario: TJ Hockenson TE Iowa
I don’t want him… at all: Gerald Willis DT Miami
Why is he being mocked to NE in Rd 1? Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State
He’s a very good, safe, and complete player: Irv Smith Jr. TE Alabama
I’m on the fence: Johnathan Abram S Mississippi State
Most enjoyable tape: Elijah Holyfield RB Georgia
He sure looks like a BB linebacker: Te’von Coney LB Notre Dame
My Rd 1 Sleeper: Garrett Bradbury iOL NC State
If you liked Logan Ryan, you’ll like: Julian Love CB Notre Dame
He’ll be a much better pro than college player: Dawson Knox TE Ole Miss
Their next great, small, white slot-guy: Andy Isabella WR Umass
BB drafted WHO in Rd 2?! Malik Gant S Marshall
He’s still my sleeper QB: Easton Stick QB North Dakota State
“Has a little bit of crazy to him.” (Per TDN): Isaac Nauta TE Georgia
That was a fun read MB
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 11:46:56 GMT -5
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Feb 17, 2019 12:53:52 GMT -5
Two middle- or later-round TEs that I find interesting: Jace Sterberger (6-4, 250) Has been mentioned on this board in the early pages, but this kid is growing on me. He does not look like he will run sub-4.7s on the 40 -- my preference for a TE. But he does not look like he runs as slow as Richard Rodgers on film (ended up running 4.87 at the Combine). Not polished as a route runner or an inline blocker, but he would be a higher round prospect if he was. I think he can improve a lot as a route runner and receiver. He looks like he has the athleticism. He just needs a bit of footwork training to sharpen his turns and get more explosive off the line. I think he is pretty close to being there. Now despite that, he caught 48 passes in 2018. What's also impressive is the 10 TDs he caught, indicating he does not disappear in the RZ. Here's a highlight film which gives a good feel for how he is as a receiver. www.youtube.com/watch?v=pestdkjIYGYAs mentioned, he is not polished as an inline blocker, but I like the effort I saw in his youtube vs Kentucky and Ole Miss www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PL101R-I2owww.youtube.com/watch?v=g9121trOwzURomello Brooker He does not have a lot of videos. My impression from the video below is that he is about strength/sturdiness more than Sternberger. His video shows him running between the little paces between defenders. Once he gets the ball, it's hard for one defender to take him down. Caught 33 for 409 yards, as well as 7 TDs. No videos of him that allows assessment of his blocking. www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpT8MvgUOyo
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 17, 2019 14:30:51 GMT -5
So, I guess I should answer my own question. And while I like 5 or 6 players at the end of Rd 1, I'll give the nod to the (3) that I think can do the most for you on the field... based on who I think could be available (excludes Hockenson and Wilkins, etc.). With the 32nd pick, in the 2019 NFL draft, the New England Patriots Select... Alabama TE, Irv Smithor Delaware S, Nasir Adderleyor South Carolina WR, Deebo SamuelAlso under consideration at this point are Washington S Taylor Rapp, Kansas State OL Dalton Risner, who could easily be in my top 3, as he can play RT, G or C, but will be a 24 y/o rookie, and Texas DL Charles Omenihu. You know what? I changed my mind... Rapp has been my guy since the start of the season, and I'm gonna keep rolling with him. My top (3) are Irv, Deebo or Rapp.
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Post by lowfbiq on Feb 17, 2019 14:46:41 GMT -5
Of all the "drafted" players "that I tracked" from last years draft class potentials... Two of the Patriots "drafted" players ended up in the top 6 PFF grades for the season. Bentley(small sample size) & Michel. JC Jackson as an UDFA ended up with a 69.3(lime green color)
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Post by lowfbiq on Feb 17, 2019 14:58:01 GMT -5
Way early short list of players I want to take a look into
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 17, 2019 14:59:14 GMT -5
Of all the "drafted" players "that I tracked" from last years draft class potentials... Two of the Patriots "drafted" players ended up in the top 6 PFF grades for the season. Bentley(small sample size) & Michel. JC Jackson as an UDFA ended up with a 69.3(lime green color) Good stuff, man... and this kinda re-opens the Justin Reid wound. Haha
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 15:51:15 GMT -5
Like Rock Ya-Sin as a coverage CB, not good against the run. But, when he's on you, good luck, catching passes. He's like glue. Excellent technique.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 17, 2019 17:08:55 GMT -5
Looking for the best 2019 prospect that most have prob never heard of (I hadn't seen him until today, when I gave his tape a look)? One at a position of need? One with Gronkian stature and maybe athletic potential? One that also wears #87? One that didn't play football until his senior year of HS, and comes with the coveted tag of "former walk-on"? One that I project will become one of the hotter names/biggest risers in the class once the Combine is over?
If so, give San Diego State TE Kahale Warring (listed 6-6 250) a look. As mentioned, he's big, he's athletic, he has some juice/quicks/power to his game and can do some damage down the seam, while also projecting as a solid dual purpose TE (love the experience in a more pro-style, power running offense), that can create mismatches when flexed out. I'd be surprised if he didn't run in the 4.6's at the combine, and like him on day 2 at this point, and he's now a Top 3-4 TE on my board, along with Smith, Fant & Nauta.
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Post by mikeod on Feb 17, 2019 17:50:48 GMT -5
Warring intrigues me because he has good size, good hands, has the ability to make catches in traffic. Further, he has shown well as a blocker when Rashad Penny was there. Sealed the edge on wide runs well. May be available later due to playing in the MW. If they decide to part ways with Allen, he may be able to fill that position as well as create the dual receiving TE scheme that was so successful before.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Feb 17, 2019 23:12:08 GMT -5
Good find. Is he still under the radar?
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 18, 2019 8:36:57 GMT -5
Good find. Is he still under the radar? At this point I think he is, as there isn't a lot of info/chatter out there about him... though I think that will change after the combine, and as we get closer to draft day.
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Post by quagmire3 on Feb 18, 2019 9:54:57 GMT -5
Mel Kipers most recent mock has QB Daniel Jones of Duke to the Pats at 32. I like Jones, feel he is a good person to work with and let learn behind Brady. Agile, mostly accurate, goes thru his progressions, but still makes a fair amount of bonehead plays. Mbealieu and others y’all know alot more about prospective QB’s than I do, what are your thoughts on Jones?
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 18, 2019 10:12:48 GMT -5
Mel Kipers most recent mock has QB Daniel Jones of Duke to the Pats at 32. I like Jones, feel he is a good person to work with and let learn behind Brady. Agile, mostly accurate, goes thru his progressions, but still makes a fair amount of bonehead plays. Mbealieu and others y’all know alot more about prospective QB’s than I do, what are your thoughts on Jones? I think Jones' value might be inflated a bit, due a relative lack of quality in this QB class. I like the player, for some of the reasons you've mentioned, love the pedigree under Cutcliffe (coached both the Manning's), and I get it if some team takes a shot on him in Rd 1, but he's more of a Rd 2/Day 2 guy for me.
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Post by lowfbiq on Feb 18, 2019 13:29:59 GMT -5
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 18, 2019 14:08:22 GMT -5
I'd love to know why Brown is mentioned as a potential Top 15 pick, while Isabella is generally regarded as a Day 2 player. I mean, what can Brown do that Isabella can't? And why would you want to spend a top 15 pick, on a frail speed guy that's already having foot problems?
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Post by fisher on Feb 18, 2019 15:34:16 GMT -5
The foot issues are a concern, but his playing speed is exceptional and probably reminds some of T Hill KC. The surgery was to fix foot he injured in Texas game last year.. Weight curd for an issue but you can't hit something you can't catch.. Haha
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 18, 2019 15:57:08 GMT -5
The foot issues are a concern, but his playing speed is exceptional and probably reminds some of T Hill KC. The surgery was to fix foot he injured in Texas game last year.. Weight curd for an issue but you can't hit something you can't catch.. Haha If Brown is really (168) pounds, as he's listed on Oklahoma's roster, then he's (17) pounds lighter than Hill was at the same stage... that's a lot. Isabella is said to have run in the 4.2/4.3 range, so he too has outstanding speed, and I can't imagine that he wouldn't have thrown up prolific/volume stats if he played against the garbage defenses that you see in the Big 12... I mean, he put up 15-219-2 against Georgia in 2018, and 7-158-1 against Mississippi State in 2017 (both were 12th nationally in passing defense in their respective years).
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Post by wazzu on Feb 18, 2019 16:09:53 GMT -5
The foot issues are a concern, but his playing speed is exceptional and probably reminds some of T Hill KC. The surgery was to fix foot he injured in Texas game last year.. Weight curd for an issue but you can't hit something you can't catch.. Haha If Brown is really (168) pounds, as he's listed on Oklahoma's roster, then he's (17) pounds lighter than Hill was at the same stage... that's a lot. Isabella is said to have run in the 4.2/4.3 range, so he too has outstanding speed, and I can't imagine that he wouldn't have thrown up prolific/volume stats if he played against the garbage defenses that you see in the Big 12... I mean, he put up 15-219-2 against Georgia in 2018, and 7-158-1 against Mississippi State in 2017 (both were 12th nationally in passing defense in their respective years). If the Patriots wind up keeping #73, I could see Isabella being the target at that pick. Most projections have him going later than that, but I could see certain teams, like NE, being very interested in him.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Feb 18, 2019 16:51:28 GMT -5
If Brown is really (168) pounds, as he's listed on Oklahoma's roster, then he's (17) pounds lighter than Hill was at the same stage... that's a lot. Isabella is said to have run in the 4.2/4.3 range, so he too has outstanding speed, and I can't imagine that he wouldn't have thrown up prolific/volume stats if he played against the garbage defenses that you see in the Big 12... I mean, he put up 15-219-2 against Georgia in 2018, and 7-158-1 against Mississippi State in 2017 (both were 12th nationally in passing defense in their respective years). If the Patriots wind up keeping #73, I could see Isabella being the target at that pick. Most projections have him going later than that, but I could see certain teams, like NE, being very interested in him. Yeah, that'd be a good spot for him, and honestly, I'd be fine with him at any point on day 2.
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