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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 6, 2018 21:17:38 GMT -5
Did draftbreakdown.com shutdown? Unfortunately, I think it did... and there seems to be less tape available on the web this draft cycle. It does seem so.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Dec 6, 2018 21:18:42 GMT -5
My random prediction of the day. Neither has declared for the NFL draft as of yet, but if they do, I think BB selects both Iowa TE TJ Hockenson and Georgia TE Isaac Nauta over the first few days of the 2019 draft, and get back to the vaunted 2-TE attack. Is this a weak TE class or am I just not finding videos of TEs because there are just fewer videos out there?
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 7, 2018 9:51:46 GMT -5
My random prediction of the day. Neither has declared for the NFL draft as of yet, but if they do, I think BB selects both Iowa TE TJ Hockenson and Georgia TE Isaac Nauta over the first few days of the 2019 draft, and get back to the vaunted 2-TE attack. Is this a weak TE class or am I just not finding videos of TEs because there are just fewer videos out there? If players like Hockenson and Nauta declare, I think it projects as a solid, and possibly deep TE class.
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Post by fisher on Dec 7, 2018 13:36:47 GMT -5
Sure hope the Pats have the draft choices they are supposed too ... Needs at TE (probably).. QB (sooner than later I hope ). LB's. Safety (or safeties ). Then the DL needs to be addressed also either thrust draft or FA's.. If JMC comes back and JCJ continues to grow DB isn't such a need ..
Almost time to start making the big board 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 8, 2018 8:04:37 GMT -5
Player: Germaine Pratt LB NC State
Listed Size: 6-2+ 240+
Accomplishments: 2018 Team Captain, 2018 1st Team All-ACC
Fit: Converted S with very good cover skills. Can carry TE's and RB's down the field and has been used in the slot. Good combo of size, speed and physicality Excellent range and athleticism. Instincts are there, despite relative lack of experience at LB and he's quick to process. Solid tackler. ***A must for me*** Could be a weapon on 3rd down. Ascending player that doesn't seem to be on a lot of radars yet. Good leader and has his degree.
Overall: Fans have been clamoring for an athletic cover LB, and Pratt would give them exactly that. He also appears to hit their size premium, of at least 6-1 240+ for the ILB position, and could come close to the the 6-3 240+ for OLB. I know some fans are willing to look past the size piece, but they like what they like. I also think he'll need to continue to get stronger, as he's still relatively new to the role (moved to LB in 2017), and improve his ability to get off blocks, but I think he's an ascending player that should be very much in demand come draft weekend, due to his combo of size, speed, range and cover skills.
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Post by fisher on Dec 8, 2018 8:38:03 GMT -5
Player: Germaine Pratt LB NC State
Listed Size: 6-2+ 240+
Accomplishments: 2018 Team Captain, 2018 1st Team All-ACC
Fit: Converted S with very good cover skills. Can carry TE's and RB's down the field and has been used in the slot. Good combo of size, speed and physicality Excellent range and athleticism. Instincts are there, despite relative lack of experience at LB and he's quick to process. Solid tackler. ***A must for me*** Could be a weapon on 3rd down. Ascending player that doesn't seem to be on a lot of radars yet. Good leader and has his degree. Overall: Fans have been clamoring for an athletic cover LB, and Pratt would give them exactly that. He also appears to hit their size premium, of at least 6-1 240+ for the ILB position, and could come close to the the 6-3 240+ for OLB. I know some fans are willing to look past the size piece, but they like what they like. I also think he'll need to continue to get stronger, as he's still relatively new to the role (moved to LB in 2017), and improve his ability to get off blocks, but I think he's an ascending player that should be very much in demand come draft weekend, due to his combo of size, speed, range and cover skills. Being down here, I did get to watch the NC defense and he showed out most of the time... Very active and seems to be a leader. Your right when you say he will need to improve in certain areas, but there seems to be a lot to work with
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 8, 2018 8:51:17 GMT -5
Below is my updated draft board/watch list. I'll continue to update is as more info/tape becomes available. NOTE: I've also added this to the OP.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 10:09:53 GMT -5
IF Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray decides to forgo a baseball career (he was a 1st round pick of Oakland this past June, and has signed a $5M contract) to take a shot at the NFL, he would immediately become the #1 QB on my board (over Duke's Daniel Jones). I've long admired Russell Wilson as a QB, and think he could be a slightly smaller, though faster and more athletic version of him. I know it's crazy to think about a QB that might not be 5-10, but he's a special, special athlete. Read at work yesterday, 3 NFL Scouts rate him a 1st Round Talent, and 2 of then said he's the best QB, if he was only committed to football. Extra picks, team will use them on him. It is tough, to make it to the Majors. I was Oakland Raiders, I would use a pick on him. Might make it easier for him, to try to do both.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 8, 2018 12:32:08 GMT -5
IF Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray decides to forgo a baseball career (he was a 1st round pick of Oakland this past June, and has signed a $5M contract) to take a shot at the NFL, he would immediately become the #1 QB on my board (over Duke's Daniel Jones). I've long admired Russell Wilson as a QB, and think he could be a slightly smaller, though faster and more athletic version of him. I know it's crazy to think about a QB that might not be 5-10, but he's a special, special athlete. Read at work yesterday, 3 NFL Scouts rate him a 1st Round Talent, and 2 of then said he's the best QB, if he was only committed to football. Extra picks, team will use them on him. It is tough, to make it to the Majors. I was Oakland Raiders, I would use a pick on him. Might make it easier for him, to try to do both. Yeah, I guess time will tell. Sure he'd get almost $5M in guaranteed money playing baseball, and it's an easier sport on the body... but there's also a chance that he never sniffs the bigs. Whereas, the #1 overall pick in the 2018 draft (Baker Mayfield scored over $32M guaranteed. Also, to give a few other examples, Tremaine Edmunds, the 16th pick, got over $12M guaranteed... and the the 32nd Pick (Lamar Jackson) came away with over $8M guaranteed... so he's likely to make a lot more, in the near future, playing football.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 8, 2018 13:47:04 GMT -5
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 8, 2018 15:50:57 GMT -5
I wanna see more tape of Navy S Sean Williams. It's tough to gauge much in these Army/Navy games as it's mostly smash-mouth option football, but he's a team captain, with NFL size, and it looks like he can run and tackle... and we know BB's affinity for the academy.
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Post by ATJ on Dec 9, 2018 6:57:22 GMT -5
I wanna see more tape of Navy S Sean Williams. It's tough to gauge much in these Army/Navy games as it's mostly smash-mouth option football, but he's a team captain, with NFL size, and it looks like he can run and tackle... and we know BB's affinity for the academy. Major hit to prevent that Army 1st down. Looks like he closes fast.
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Post by patslifer on Dec 9, 2018 7:17:42 GMT -5
Below is my updated draft board/watch list. I'll continue to update is as more info/tape becomes available. NOTE: I've also added this to the OP. This is awesome! Thanks MB I will use it to acclimate as I haven’t been watching enough college ball this year. Request...any chance you could color code each player based on their projected round? It would be great to look across your board, across positions and players and know which ones are round 1 vs 2, 3, etc Thanks in advance. And if too much trouble please disregard
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 12, 2018 16:49:54 GMT -5
So we're 3+ months into the season/draft thread, and I still feel like Washington S Taylor Rapp will be the pick (if he's available) towards the end of Rd 1. He might be as Patrick Chung-ish a safety as I've seen, with his versatility and physicality/security as a tackler... they also both seem to be similar in size (around 5-11 210), though we'll see what Rapp measure's in at, as I think I remember reading that he dropped 10 pounds to increase his speed/movement ability. Also, like Chung, I think he'll prob run in that mid-high 4.5 range, which should make him a a weapon against backs and TE's.
Yes, I know that QB is a potential need... and I could see them popping on a Jones or Haskins or Lock or Grier, etc, at the end of Rd 1, but man does Rapp look like a great fit. Not to mention that both Chung and DMC are (31), and the jury is still out on Obi.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 12, 2018 17:00:59 GMT -5
Below is my updated draft board/watch list. I'll continue to update is as more info/tape becomes available. NOTE: I've also added this to the OP. This is awesome! Thanks MB I will use it to acclimate as I haven’t been watching enough college ball this year. Request...any chance you could color code each player based on their projected round? It would be great to look across your board, across positions and players and know which ones are round 1 vs 2, 3, etc Thanks in advance. And if too much trouble please disregard Thanks man... I'll get around to color coding them based on potential draft round at some point... though I will say that my Rd 1 watch list looks like this (in no particular order... and yes, some of those players will already be drafted when NE is on the clock): Daniel Jones QB Duke Dwayne Haskins QB OSU Drew Lock QB Missouri DK Metcalf WR Ole Miss Kelvin Harmon WR NC State TJ Hockenson TE Iowa Noah Fant TE Iowa ***if he declares*** Kaden Smith TE Stanford David Edwards OT Wisconsin Dalton Risner OL Kansas State Dexter Lawrence DT Clemson Jerry Tillery DT Notre Dame Christian Wilkins DT Clemson Devin White LB LSU Mack Wilson LB Alabama Tevon Coney LB Notre Dame Anfernee Jennings EDGE Alabama Julian Love CB Notre Dame DeAndre Baker CB Georgia Taylor Rapp S Washington
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Post by oklahomapatriot on Dec 12, 2018 19:56:34 GMT -5
IF Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray decides to forgo a baseball career (he was a 1st round pick of Oakland this past June, and has signed a $5M contract) to take a shot at the NFL, he would immediately become the #1 QB on my board (over Duke's Daniel Jones). I've long admired Russell Wilson as a QB, and think he could be a slightly smaller, though faster and more athletic version of him. I know it's crazy to think about a QB that might not be 5-10, but he's a special, special athlete. Sorry, but he's a one hit wonder like some others. He'll be better in baseball. Not as good as Baker Mayfield.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 12, 2018 20:04:18 GMT -5
IF Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray decides to forgo a baseball career (he was a 1st round pick of Oakland this past June, and has signed a $5M contract) to take a shot at the NFL, he would immediately become the #1 QB on my board (over Duke's Daniel Jones). I've long admired Russell Wilson as a QB, and think he could be a slightly smaller, though faster and more athletic version of him. I know it's crazy to think about a QB that might not be 5-10, but he's a special, special athlete. Sorry, but he's a one hit wonder like some others. He'll be better in baseball. Not as good as Baker Mayfield. Wouldn't surprise me if he was the 1st overall pick, or top 3-5, if he tells teams that he wants to be a franchise QB. What do you mean by "one hit wonder"?
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Post by oklahomapatriot on Dec 12, 2018 20:07:55 GMT -5
Below is my updated draft board/watch list. I'll continue to update is as more info/tape becomes available. NOTE: I've also added this to the OP. I like Grier. For TE I like Carson Meier from OKLa who they play as a FB coming out of the backfield. Oh yeah and Seibert(kicker) form OKla
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Post by oklahomapatriot on Dec 12, 2018 20:10:01 GMT -5
Sorry, but he's a one hit wonder like some others. He'll be better in baseball. Not as good as Baker Mayfield. Wouldn't surprise me if he was the 1st overall pick, or top 3-5, if he tells teams that he wants to be a franchise QB. What do you mean by "one hit wonder"? Wins the Heisman and flounders like some others. The dude would not make a pro QB, he's kinda frail unlike lamar Jackson or the other running QBs like Newton,
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 12, 2018 20:23:54 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if he was the 1st overall pick, or top 3-5, if he tells teams that he wants to be a franchise QB. What do you mean by "one hit wonder"? Wins the Heisman and flounders like some others. The dude would not make a pro QB, he's kinda frail unlike lamar Jackson or the other running QBs like Newton, Not only did he win the Heisman, but he did it in his first year as the starter... special athlete. He's a bit smaller than Russell Wilson, who I think he comps to... but is a better athlete. Cam Newton is a physical freak/specimen... I mean, he's 6-5 250 and runs in the 4.5's... those are pretty rare measurables.
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Post by oklahomapatriot on Dec 12, 2018 20:29:34 GMT -5
Wins the Heisman and flounders like some others. The dude would not make a pro QB, he's kinda frail unlike lamar Jackson or the other running QBs like Newton, Not only did he win the Heisman, but he did it in his first year as the starter... special athlete. He's a bit smaller than Russell Wilson, who I think he comps to... but is a better athlete. Cam Newton is a physical freak/specimen... I mean, he's 6-5 250 and runs in the 4.5's... those are pretty rare measurables. Don't get me wrong I watched him all season and appreciate every thing he done to get OU to the CFB playoffs. But he's not pro football QB material. Plus he's only a junior, and I don't think he'll declare himself for the draft and pass up a $5 mil contract with the Oakland A's.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 12, 2018 20:32:54 GMT -5
Not only did he win the Heisman, but he did it in his first year as the starter... special athlete. He's a bit smaller than Russell Wilson, who I think he comps to... but is a better athlete. Cam Newton is a physical freak/specimen... I mean, he's 6-5 250 and runs in the 4.5's... those are pretty rare measurables. Don't get me wrong I watched him all season and appreciate every thing he done to get OU to the CFB playoffs. But he's not pro football QB material. Plus he's only a junior, and I don't think he'll declare himself for the draft and pass up a $5 mil contract with the Oakland A's. In regards to the $, sure he'd get almost $5M in guaranteed money playing baseball, and it's an easier sport on the body... but there's also a chance that he never sniffs the bigs. Whereas, the #1 overall pick in the 2018 draft (Baker Mayfield scored over $32M guaranteed. Also, to give a few other examples, Tremaine Edmunds, the 16th pick, got over $12M guaranteed... and the the 32nd Pick (Lamar Jackson) came away with over $8M guaranteed... so he's likely to make a lot more, in the near future, playing football.
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Post by olemiss on Dec 13, 2018 12:53:13 GMT -5
U need to update your list to include Ole Miss all-SEC OT Greg Little (many lists I have seen have him a 1st or 2rd draft choice), DeMarkus Lodge WR/Slot (65 receptions for 877 yds - 4 TDs) To answer your earlier question TE Knox, a junion, likely will return to Ole Miss for senior year. A real good player, excellent blocker with good hands. Underutilized by Rebs Offensive Coord Phil Luongo ( not departed) as a pass receiver this past season. Hopefully Knox will get more opportunities 10 2019 season.
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Post by lowfbiq on Dec 13, 2018 13:26:56 GMT -5
Below is my updated draft board/watch list. I'll continue to update is as more info/tape becomes available. NOTE: I've also added this to the OP. Good stuff, love when you do these. You know I don't watch much college ball until bowl and championship season and don't start on the draft stuff till like Feb-March. Your list always saves me lots of time as a jumping off point when I get there. I will add that the LB from Wisconsin has caught my eye, and the LB from LSU is lightning.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Dec 13, 2018 15:49:47 GMT -5
U need to update your list to include Ole Miss all-SEC OT Greg Little (many lists I have seen have him a 1st or 2rd draft choice), DeMarkus Lodge WR/Slot (65 receptions for 877 yds - 4 TDs) To answer your earlier question TE Knox, a junion, likely will return to Ole Miss for senior year. A real good player, excellent blocker with good hands. Underutilized by Rebs Offensive Coord Phil Luongo ( not departed) as a pass receiver this past season. Hopefully Knox will get more opportunities 10 2019 season. I prob should have Little on the list, based on measurables and upside, but I am worried about the inconsistent effort that I read about. There are multiple things that will keep someone off of my list... but things like "inconsistent effort" or "motor runs hot and cold" or "misses way too many tackles" are near the top. I look forward to checking out some Lodge tape, and will go from there. With that said, if DK Metcalf is available when NE is on the clock, BB will have a very hard decision on his hands... as he could develop into the best WR in the NFL, and doesn't appear to have any real weaknesses. One thing that stood out on tape, is while he may not run as fast as Moss, and is a bigger player, they seem to have a similar running... covering a lot of grown with each stride.
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