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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 1, 2019 18:44:14 GMT -5
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 1, 2019 19:09:22 GMT -5
YOSUAH NIJMAN T, VIRGINIA TECH HOKIES Virginia Tech T Yosuah Nijman ran the 40-yard dash in an unofficial 4.83 seconds at his pro day. Even if we inflate that pro day time to the 4.95-second range, it'd still be an elite time for an offensive tackle who weighs 324 pounds. Heading into testing, Nijman was considered a late-round prospect, but it's time to move Nijman up big boards as long as his injury history doesn't hold him back. In addition to his impressive straight-line speed, Nijman recorded a high-end 4.50-second short shuttle and 114-inch broad jump at the NFL Scouting Combine.
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Post by olemiss on Apr 2, 2019 7:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 7:26:32 GMT -5
Because of slow 40 time this now puts BC's Will Harris ahead of Taylor Rapp, because of faster 40 time. That's funny. Pete Carroll will grab Rapp in a heartbeat. Read Article Washington's DC Coordinator, emphasizes 3 Cone, and Short Shuttle, Quickness and Recognition of play, (film Study), more important then straight line speed. Harrison was signed here, because lost a step. That worked out OK. I look at football players, more important. Otherwise, your really not that good at evaluating, if numbers are your thing.
Run fast don't, but don't make the tackle. Run, real fast, and your totally out of position. Because, you do not do your homework.
Not too many TE's will run by Rapp. He drops even better for us, so we can get him.
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Post by olemiss on Apr 2, 2019 7:44:11 GMT -5
This guy can run past your boy!
Ole Miss TE Dawson Knox would be a good 3rd round choice:
Knox is a 6-foot-4, 254-pound pass catcher who can perform from a three-point stance or split wide in the slot. He ran a 4.57-second 40-yard dash at Ole Miss' Pro Day on Friday and posted a vertical leap of 34 inches. He's an impressive talent with impressive tape, just maybe not the production to back it up.
So why did Knox declare for the NFL Draft with one more chance to prove he can score as a college tight end? He explained his thought process in thoughtful detail on Friday.
"I graduated in December and had my degree with a major and a minor," Knox said. "I knew that I had enough on film to kind of show that I could compete against anybody; no matter who's covering me, I can create separation. When they threw the ball to me, I caught it. I was able to get my blocking technique down to where I could move guys off the ball at any level, which was a big thing for me because coming in as a quarterback I had no idea how to actually move somebody.
"But I felt comfortable with that. It was just a lot of research, a lot of prayer. And I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I came back and had some type of freak injury that prevented me from playing at the highest level, which I know I'm capable of."
What sort of feedback has Knox received since declaring for the draft? Mostly positive, he says. Knox said scouts like the way he runs and creates separation downfield. But he also said scouts view him as a mystery of sorts. Given the simplistic offense Knox ran in under former Ole Miss offensive coordinator Phil Longo, Knox's tape only flashes a handful of routes. But Knox said scouts are excited to add complexity to Knox's game in an attempt to use his versatility in a more modern-styled NFL offense.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 2, 2019 8:21:34 GMT -5
Because of slow 40 time this now puts BC's Will Harris ahead of Taylor Rapp, because of faster 40 time. That's funny. Pete Carroll will grab Rapp in a heartbeat. Read Article Washington's DC Coordinator, emphasizes 3 Cone, and Short Shuttle, Quickness and Recognition of play, (film Study), more important then straight line speed. Harrison was signed here, because lost a step. That worked out OK. I look at football players, more important. Otherwise, your really not that good at evaluating, if numbers are your thing. Run fast don't, but don't make the tackle. Run, real fast, and your totally out of position. Because, you do not do your homework. Not too many TE's will run by Rapp. He drops even better for us, so we can get him. To me, if you're drafting Rapp, it's with the idea that he'll eventually fill that versatile Chung role, which also involves covering the slot, RB's and deep, depending on the call/coverage. So while he can still do his thing vs. TE's, 4.7+ isn't gonna cut it against most backs and WR's. I love the player and I love his tape, but 4.74 - 4.77 is pretty bad for a safety... particularly when their slowest DB's are Chung and Harmon, who both ran 4.51... with most running in the 4.3 - 4.4 range. And sure the instincts, 3-cone and shuttle times will factor in, and allow him to play faster, but that 40 time severely limits his man coverage abilities, IMO.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 2, 2019 8:45:12 GMT -5
Because of slow 40 time this now puts BC's Will Harris ahead of Taylor Rapp, because of faster 40 time. That's funny. Pete Carroll will grab Rapp in a heartbeat. Read Article Washington's DC Coordinator, emphasizes 3 Cone, and Short Shuttle, Quickness and Recognition of play, (film Study), more important then straight line speed. Harrison was signed here, because lost a step. That worked out OK. I look at football players, more important. Otherwise, your really not that good at evaluating, if numbers are your thing. Run fast don't, but don't make the tackle. Run, real fast, and your totally out of position. Because, you do not do your homework. Not too many TE's will run by Rapp. He drops even better for us, so we can get him. To me, if you're drafting Rapp, it's with the idea that he'll eventually fill that versatile Chung role, which also involves covering the slot, RB's and deep, depending on the call/coverage. So while he can still do his thing vs. TE's, 4.7+ isn't gonna cut it against most backs and WR's. I love the player and I love his tape, but 4.74 - 4.77 is pretty bad for a safety... particularly when their slowest DB's are Chung and Harmon, who both ran 4.51... with most running in the 4.3 - 4.4 range. And sure the instincts, 3-cone and shuttle times will factor in, and allow him to play faster, but that 40 time severely limits his man coverage abilities, IMO. If he happens to be sitting there at 73 I would still take Raap. But you’re right. That 4.74 hurts a lot. He’ll still go 2nd Rnd, but it probably won’t be to the Patriots
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 2, 2019 10:08:41 GMT -5
Just about every player that runs a slow, slowish, slower than ideal and or expected 40 uses an injury of some sort excuse. It is common practice. They have agents, it is a game, a game to maximize value and limit devalue. You almost always know a player that does not run at the combine(purposely skipped a particular drill) is going to perform less than ideal. Is it always the case? No. ...but it is most often the case.
Adderley's time wasn't ideal either and you couple that with him looking fantastic on film but against lesser competition...
Adderleys 4.62 & Rapps 4.74 both would have been WORSE in official combine testing. Keep that in mind.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 2, 2019 10:31:09 GMT -5
Dexter Lawrence did 36 bench reps with 34 3/4" arms, ran a 5.05 40, and won't turn 22 until November. Those are comparable to Vita Vea (5.1, 41 reps w/ 32 5/8" arms), but Vea was almost 2 year older
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 2, 2019 10:49:21 GMT -5
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 2, 2019 11:22:21 GMT -5
Just about every player that runs a slow, slowish, slower than ideal and or expected 40 uses an injury of some sort excuse. It is common practice. They have agents, it is a game, a game to maximize value and limit devalue. You almost always know a player that does not run at the combine(purposely skipped a particular drill) is going to perform less than ideal. Is it always the case? No. ...but it is most often the case. Adderley's time wasn't ideal either and you couple that with him looking fantastic on film but against lesser competition... Adderleys 4.62 & Rapps 4.74 both would have been WORSE in official combine testing. Keep that in mind. Wow, I thought I had read that Adderley ran a 4.54 (article below)... but it's tough to find a confirmed timed... and something in the 4.6's would knock him off (or down) my board as well. Also, I agree on your overall premise, and this is why I put more stock in Combine times vs. pro days, where possible, as the Combine uses a consistent unit of measure. www.delawareonline.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2019/03/22/delaware-star-nasir-adderley-nfl-pro-day-eagles-ends-early-because-injury/3203528002/
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 2, 2019 13:14:43 GMT -5
I hope the Pats come away with at least one of these guys, listed in no particular order
Isabella Harry Whiteside (still want to see him time though) AJ Brown
There is a much longer list of double/triple-dip candidates but I'd really like them to take one of those 4 at least
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 2, 2019 13:24:06 GMT -5
I hope the Pats come away with at least one of these guys, listed in no particular order Isabella Harry Whiteside (still want to seem him time though)AJ Brown There is a much longer list of double/triple-dip candidates but I'd really like them to take one of those 4 at least Yeah, fingers crossed for JJAW... hoping for low-mid 4.5 range or better.
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Post by mrmojo112058 on Apr 2, 2019 13:47:32 GMT -5
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 2, 2019 14:07:50 GMT -5
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Post by jjdbrasil on Apr 2, 2019 14:40:48 GMT -5
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Post by jjdbrasil on Apr 2, 2019 14:54:22 GMT -5
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 2, 2019 18:33:14 GMT -5
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 2, 2019 20:00:03 GMT -5
Because of slow 40 time this now puts BC's Will Harris ahead of Taylor Rapp, because of faster 40 time. That's funny. Pete Carroll will grab Rapp in a heartbeat.
I really really doubt that. I believe Carroll is trying to reconstruct LOB 2.0. I do not see how Rapp fits in that. Even before 2011, there was a lot of talk on talk radio about what PC wanted. Carroll likes in the back... A SS who is built like a LB (Chancellor) A rangy fast FS (Thomas) A pair of big CBs (Sherman and Browner) A third CB, medium-sized but pretty fast (Maxwell) I don't see where Rapp fits.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 2, 2019 20:06:08 GMT -5
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 2, 2019 20:11:37 GMT -5
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love Rapp's tape, but 4.7+ is gross... I might have to take him off my board, as painful as that'd be. Fair. Think ahead to the playoffs, would you want him on the field going against the Chiefs? Also, consider that we do not know yet who will backfill Flowers. Would they be as effective in the pass rush? If not then you can't have speed liabilities in the back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 8:05:17 GMT -5
Looking at a lot sites, and the one Trade that keeps coming up, from some credible sites, has us moving to 21 with Seattle, for our 2 and 3rd, and we get Fants. See this a lot.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 3, 2019 8:18:00 GMT -5
Looking at a lot sites, and the one Trade that keeps coming up, from some credible sites, has us moving to 21 with Seattle, for our 2 and 3rd, and we get Fants. See this a lot. Yeah. Seattle is probably our likeliest trade partner if a top end prospect falls to that point. The reason is simple. They really need additional picks. They only have 4 total picks as of today. NE has 12 so it’s easy to connect the dots. Things are rarely that simple on draft night, though. It’s probably unlikely that NE moves up that far.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 3, 2019 8:49:02 GMT -5
Looking at a lot sites, and the one Trade that keeps coming up, from some credible sites, has us moving to 21 with Seattle, for our 2 and 3rd, and we get Fants. See this a lot.And we know what that means.
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