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Post by thejuice on Apr 11, 2019 14:08:07 GMT -5
There is a ton of continual talk of projecting a possible trade of 32+73 to the Seahawks for no. 21. My question to you all is who needs to be on the board for you to strongly want to make that move? Hockenson. He's the only "elite" TE in this draft and I think he will develop into a special player and give us a ton year 1. I considered some of the OL, DL, S prospects at this point and I think I'd rather wait until we are on the board again in round 2. I feel the same as you. I think there’s enough depth and quality at ol, dL, s, wr and cb even to just sit tight at 32 and pick.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 11, 2019 14:10:43 GMT -5
There is a ton of continual talk of projecting a possible trade of 32+73 to the Seahawks for no. 21. My question to you all is who needs to be on the board for you to strongly want to make that move? Good question... I'd go with: Hockenson Oliver Wilkins Haskins Bush And maybe Ferrell, but I think the first (5) have the chance to be franchise level impact players.
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Post by thejuice on Apr 11, 2019 14:36:16 GMT -5
There is a ton of continual talk of projecting a possible trade of 32+73 to the Seahawks for no. 21. My question to you all is who needs to be on the board for you to strongly want to make that move? Good question... I'd go with: Hockenson Oliver Wilkins Haskins Bush And maybe Ferrell, but I think the first (5) have the chance to be franchise level impact players. Agree with you totally on your 5. I just don’t think any of them realistically make it to 21. That includes Hock. Wilkins and Oliver would be my 2 off your list though
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Post by wazzu on Apr 11, 2019 16:07:20 GMT -5
I’m still going back to Deebo Samuel as the best WR fit for the Pats in this class...
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Post by patslifer on Apr 11, 2019 17:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by patslifer on Apr 11, 2019 17:02:42 GMT -5
There is a ton of continual talk of projecting a possible trade of 32+73 to the Seahawks for no. 21. My question to you all is who needs to be on the board for you to strongly want to make that move? Good question... I'd go with: Hockenson Oliver Wilkins Haskins Bush And maybe Ferrell, but I think the first (5) have the chance to be franchise level impact players. That's a great list. Hard to argue with any of them. I'd include Oliver with Hock for me.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 11, 2019 17:14:25 GMT -5
There is a ton of continual talk of projecting a possible trade of 32+73 to the Seahawks for no. 21. My question to you all is who needs to be on the board for you to strongly want to make that move? Good question... I'd go with: Hockenson Oliver Wilkins Haskins Bush And maybe Ferrell, but I think the first (5) have the chance to be franchise level impact players. Agreed on the top 2. I'm out on Bush. Wilkins maybe but I doubt it. Haskins, nothing not to like. ...that single year or work though, Hmmm.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 11, 2019 18:51:02 GMT -5
PFF dueling 3 Rd Mocks for Patriots
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Post by teegee on Apr 11, 2019 19:04:49 GMT -5
PFF dueling 3 Rd Mocks for Patriots Pats have pick 97, not 84.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 19:04:57 GMT -5
There is a ton of continual talk of projecting a possible trade of 32+73 to the Seahawks for no. 21. My question to you all is who needs to be on the board for you to strongly want to make that move? Hockenson and Wilkins and Oliver.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 11, 2019 19:13:54 GMT -5
PFF dueling 3 Rd Mocks for Patriots Easily the left one for me.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 11, 2019 19:18:23 GMT -5
There is a ton of continual talk of projecting a possible trade of 32+73 to the Seahawks for no. 21. My question to you all is who needs to be on the board for you to strongly want to make that move? Hockenson and Wilkins and Oliver. I wouldn't for Wilkins. I don't have a large degree of separation between him Dexter Lawrence and Tillery, can probably stay put and get one of the three and still have your other pick. ...and there are going to still be very good players available at that pick. Wilkins is almost 24 Dexter Lawrence ran the same 40 at 27 pounds heavier than Wilkins. Lawrence is also only 21 Lawrence and Tillery both have better anchors than Wilkins imo Tillery also played a bunch with a shoulder injury and still performed at a high level.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 11, 2019 19:28:20 GMT -5
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 11, 2019 19:29:40 GMT -5
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 11, 2019 19:46:00 GMT -5
I need to give Hampton's tape a look. An athletic Rutgers S, that's also a captain? Seems to have all the required traits, haha.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 11, 2019 19:50:13 GMT -5
Talked about Wesco as a good replacement for Allen
Is Jalen Hurd a bit slower but better receiver with similar versatility replacement for Cordarrelle Patterson?
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 11, 2019 19:52:23 GMT -5
Talked about Wesco as a good replacement for Allen Is Jalen Hurd a bit slower but better receiver with similar versatility replacement for Cordarrelle Patterson? I think that's the comp for him, raw, but big and athletic... crazy that he was a rb at 6-5. And in regards to CP...man, was he a brute after the catch. He'll either run through or by you... your choice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 6:13:56 GMT -5
2 years ago watching Clemson-Alabama game, changed my view on Lawrence. I feel having Wilkins, helped Lawrence. Not other way around.
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Post by wazzu on Apr 12, 2019 9:53:57 GMT -5
2 Weeks to go. The “Hoodie Gets Aggressive” Mock...
NE trades #32 & #101 to Chargers for #28 & #166
#28. Jerry Tillery. DT. Notre Dame. Tillery is a rare prospect. His stock seems to be slowly creeping up as we near the draft, and if he gets close to 32 Belichick may make a slight move to draft him.
NE trades #56, #134, & #252 to MIN for #50
#50. Deebo Samuel. WR. S. Carolina. Simply put, I think he’s the best WR fit in this draft for NE. I think he would really excel in this system.
#64. Darnell Savage. S. Maryland. Safety is a long term need for the Pats. Savage is a fast, sound, physical player who can be a long term fixture in this defense.
NE trades #73, #166, & #246 to SF for #67
#67. Anthony Nelson. Edge. Iowa. Productive Edge player from Iowa, Nelson is a rare athlete. Long at 6’7 but strong enough to set the edge and versatile enough to play inside as needed. Perfect fit.
NE trades #97 to Tampa for #107 & #145
#107. Bobby Evans. OL. Oklahoma. Evans is strong and Nasty. There are questions about his quickness for playing Tackle in the NFL, but he has Pro Bowl Guard potential.
***Side Note: At this point, Patriots fans are pulling their hair out because Belichick has ignored the TE position to this point.***
NE trades #145 & #205 to DAL for #128
#128. Dawson Knox. TE. Ole Miss. Relax Pats fans. Belichick has had his eye on this guy all along. Knox is a stud run blocker who was vastly underutilized in the passing game at Ole Miss. If he gets too far into Day 3 expect Belichick to move up for him. Great fit in Foxboro.
#239. Porter Gustin. Edge. USC. Belichick takes a flier on the often injured Trojan late. His size/athleticism tell you he should have been drafted much higher, but injuries have held him back. A very Belichick-like pick.
#243. Easton Stick. North Dakota St. His stock took a real hit at the Senior Bowl where he threw the ball poorly. Stick was an FCS stud, but his legs were maybe his best asset and he excelled against lower level competition. He’s got tools, though, and if QB isn’t working out in camp, a move to WR isn’t out of the question.
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 12, 2019 10:19:09 GMT -5
Do you all agree? or how do you view it?
Need now: TE, WR, DT, EDGE
Need Future(depth now): S, OL, QB
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 12, 2019 10:30:10 GMT -5
Have him on my UDFA list, based on his times... but haven't looked at this tape yep. There sure seem to be a lot of athletic "undersized" LB's in this class! So true... and Takitaki is another. Have you seen any lists around talking about some of the best special teams players in the country last season?Found a name for you. Could be a solid, athletic Day 3 core ST target that they seem to target often. -Great bloodlines (father and uncle played in the NFL, cousin to Louis Riddick) -Athletic (4.50-4.52 40 / 10-9 BJ / 34 VJ, 7.02 3C) and moves well in space -Tough, physical, high-effort player on tape. -Good size (for ST coverage / 6-2 229) and length (32" arms / 10" hands) -Versatile and has been used in multiple spots -Seemed to show well at the East-West Shrine Game -Mentioned as a solid ST coverage guy. And here he is in his own words, on why a team should use one of their draft picks on him: "I think an NFL team should invest into me because of my versatility. I’d love to enter the league as a rookie and show out all over the field. I have the ability to be a special teams ace right out of the gate. I hope to play on every special teams unit. I have experience with all of that. My football I.Q. combined with my athletic ability keep me motivated to work hard and succeed on the field however a team would like to use me."
The player is Drew Lewis LB Colorado.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 12, 2019 10:47:50 GMT -5
Do you all agree? or how do you view it? Need now: TE, WR, DT, EDGE Need Future(depth now): S, OL, QB In terms of the 2019 season, and assuming no big injuries, I think you have it right... though you might be able to put DT in the "Need Future" category, based on current personnel. They're down Brown and Shelton, but picked up Bennett and Pennel, and one can assume Butler will play a larger role this season... plus Guy has been very good. And I'm not saying they won't draft one early, just that they've addressed the position in the off-season, with arguably like talent, and the depth doesn't look as alarming as TE (LaCosse and ASJ are not Gronk and Allen), WR and EDGE.
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 12, 2019 10:54:51 GMT -5
2 Weeks to go. The “Hoodie Gets Aggressive” Mock... NE trades #32 & #101 to Chargers for #28 & #166 #28. Jerry Tillery. DT. Notre Dame. Tillery is a rare prospect. His stock seems to be slowly creeping up as we near the draft, and if he gets close to 32 Belichick may make a slight move to draft him. NE trades #56, #134, & #252 to MIN for #50 #50. Deebo Samuel. WR. S. Carolina. Simply put, I think he’s the best WR fit in this draft for NE. I think he would really excel in this system. #64. Darnell Savage. S. Maryland. Safety is a long term need for the Pats. Savage is a fast, sound, physical player who can be a long term fixture in this defense. NE trades #73, #166, & #246 to SF for #67 #67. Anthony Nelson. Edge. Iowa. Productive Edge player from Iowa, Nelson is a rare athlete. Long at 6’7 but strong enough to set the edge and versatile enough to play inside as needed. Perfect fit. NE trades #97 to Tampa for #107 & #145 #107. Bobby Evans. OL. Oklahoma. Evans is strong and Nasty. There are questions about his quickness for playing Tackle in the NFL, but he has Pro Bowl Guard potential. ***Side Note: At this point, Patriots fans are pulling their hair out because Belichick has ignored the TE position to this point.*** NE trades #145 & #205 to DAL for #128 #128. Dawson Knox. TE. Ole Miss. Relax Pats fans. Belichick has had his eye on this guy all along. Knox is a stud run blocker who was vastly underutilized in the passing game at Ole Miss. If he gets too far into Day 3 expect Belichick to move up for him. Great fit in Foxboro. #239. Porter Gustin. Edge. USC. Belichick takes a flier on the often injured Trojan late. His size/athleticism tell you he should have been drafted much higher, but injuries have held him back. A very Belichick-like pick. #243. Easton Stick. North Dakota St. His stock took a real hit at the Senior Bowl where he threw the ball poorly. Stick was an FCS stud, but his legs were maybe his best asset and he excelled against lower level competition. He’s got tools, though, and if QB isn’t working out in camp, a move to WR isn’t out of the question. I'd be stoked with this... very good haul overall. And to your mock, I will indeed be ready to throw something, if they wait until Rd 4 to address the TE position... though Knox would be a steal there, if he lasts that long (I'm doubtful).
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 12, 2019 11:15:44 GMT -5
What (1) player are you pounding the table for in the middle rounds (3-5)?
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Post by wazzu on Apr 12, 2019 11:52:40 GMT -5
What (1) player you pounding the table for in the middle rounds (3-5)? Bobby Evans and Anthony Nelson
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