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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 18:38:48 GMT -5
According to CrapSheet Tennessee is focused on retaining Tanny. Would like to sign him to a long term contract
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Post by TFB12 on Mar 10, 2020 18:47:05 GMT -5
Well somebody else has my TB to Tampa take... weei.radio.com/blogs/ryan-hannable/tom-brady-rumors-teams-do-not-believe-qb-is-the-answerAccording to ESPN's Dianna Russini, maybe that isn't the case. “I think at this point right now, Brady’s interest in other teams outweighs the amount of teams that are interested (in him)," she said on Tuesday's 'Get Up.' "Are there teams out there that are all in that I’ve talked to? I have talked to Tampa Bay and they would love to have Tom Brady. They are willing to give Tom Brady the things he needs and he wants. Some of the things Brady wants: control of the roster. He wants to be part of making decisions of the play-calling. … Talk about a match made in heaven in terms of if that is what Brady is looking for. If Brady wants control, Bruce Arians is the guy he should match up with.” LMAO! Yeah, all these reporters are saying he's gone, he's going to ______________ (insert team name) and now there's not much interest?? lol!! Sure, Tannehill who threw 160 yards passing in two playoff games they won, is going to take you to the next level. We all saw the choke job Jimmy G did, Chargers need a QB, Bucs Need a QB, Raiders need a QB, Colts need a QB, Bears need a QB, Dolphins need a QB and ticket sales... there's easily 6-10 teams who NEED the GOAT, Pats included. |
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 10, 2020 19:11:17 GMT -5
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Post by jri37 on Mar 11, 2020 2:44:53 GMT -5
Well somebody else has my TB to Tampa take... weei.radio.com/blogs/ryan-hannable/tom-brady-rumors-teams-do-not-believe-qb-is-the-answerAccording to ESPN's Dianna Russini, maybe that isn't the case. “I think at this point right now, Brady’s interest in other teams outweighs the amount of teams that are interested (in him)," she said on Tuesday's 'Get Up.' "Are there teams out there that are all in that I’ve talked to? I have talked to Tampa Bay and they would love to have Tom Brady. They are willing to give Tom Brady the things he needs and he wants. Some of the things Brady wants: control of the roster. He wants to be part of making decisions of the play-calling. … Talk about a match made in heaven in terms of if that is what Brady is looking for. If Brady wants control, Bruce Arians is the guy he should match up with.” LMAO! Yeah, all these reporters are saying he's gone, he's going to ______________ (insert team name) and now there's not much interest?? lol!! Sure, Tannehill who threw 160 yards passing in two playoff games they won, is going to take you to the next level. We all saw the choke job Jimmy G did, Chargers need a QB, Bucs Need a QB, Raiders need a QB, Colts need a QB, Bears need a QB, Dolphins need a QB and ticket sales... there's easily 6-10 teams who NEED the GOAT, Pats included. I'm just passing along my TB to Tampa take. The rest make of it what you will. It's not like I said I have a source that the Pats were going to give Dorsett a 2 year 10 million dollar deal without a link. |
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Post by PatsFan4Life on Mar 11, 2020 4:03:50 GMT -5
I see in PFT they are saying the CBA is now going to effect Tom and Patriot's negotiation window because it got pushed out to sat at midnight from thursday at midnight. The theory being the pats and tom do not know what rules will apply. But it seems to me that this does not delay things necessarily. I think that they are just using this angle to get more clicks...
First off both sides know there is a possibility of two sets of rules. They could negotiate a deal for both sets of rules and when the CBA votes both sides know it is offer 1 or offer 2. So this should not effect these negotiations. What effects the negotiations is the mindsets of the two parties.
1. Does Tom want to go or want to stay? what conditions does he need to have met to stay besides the contract?
2. Does BB want Tom to go or stay? What conditions does he want met to have him stay?
These do not have anything to do with the CBA. The problem we all have is both sides are not advertising what their conditions/concerns are to work this out, it is all speculation. What is interesting is that it is one thing for a person to not leak their intentions, it is another for a group of people or an organization to not leak their feelings. In this day when how someone feels about their bowel movements gets posted on Facebook/Twitter/Snapchat/etc... both sides are not having any real leaks.
I think the truth is both Patriots and Tom know where each other stands, Tom wants the opportunity to see how other teams and organizations view him at this moment in time. This will play out so he can find this out. Based on this he will accept what Pats offer or not. BB has made his offer and while he could adjust somethings based on what Tom's viewpoint is he won't chase the market. I am not saying BB has given a take it or leave it type offer but he has given Tom and his team of negotiators the lay of the land and 80-90% of what they will ultimately get from the Pats.
My heart wants Tom to stay. My fan side coach says we should do everything we can to get him to stay but my head says Tom did not fall short last year, nor did he lead us to the superbowl on his back. The Pats will do their job and it will be next man up. I lean towards the belief that Tom and Pats part ways but I won't complain or be surprised if he stays. Leaving a gig after 20 years is not easy.
One more note, if teams do not really show Tom respect and love, this might fuel him to re-engage in the Tommy is disrespected mode that fueled his work ethic in the early years. Remember 199 sticks with him and fueled his drive to show them all that you did not want me, maybe lightening strikes twice....
PS>.. I will change my avatar if Tom leaves this year....
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Post by rkarp on Mar 11, 2020 4:37:34 GMT -5
I see in PFT they are saying the CBA is now going to effect Tom and Patriot's negotiation window because it got pushed out to sat at midnight from thursday at midnight. The theory being the pats and tom do not know what rules will apply. But it seems to me that this does not delay things necessarily. I think that they are just using this angle to get more clicks... First off both sides know there is a possibility of two sets of rules. They could negotiate a deal for both sets of rules and when the CBA votes both sides know it is offer 1 or offer 2. So this should not effect these negotiations. What effects the negotiations is the mindsets of the two parties. 1. Does Tom want to go or want to stay? what conditions does he need to have met to stay besides the contract? 2. Does BB want Tom to go or stay? What conditions does he want met to have him stay? These do not have anything to do with the CBA. The problem we all have is both sides are not advertising what their conditions/concerns are to work this out, it is all speculation. What is interesting is that it is one thing for a person to not leak their intentions, it is another for a group of people or an organization to not leak their feelings. In this day when how someone feels about their bowel movements gets posted on Facebook/Twitter/Snapchat/etc... both sides are not having any real leaks. I think the truth is both Patriots and Tom know where each other stands, Tom wants the opportunity to see how other teams and organizations view him at this moment in time. This will play out so he can find this out. Based on this he will accept what Pats offer or not. BB has made his offer and while he could adjust somethings based on what Tom's viewpoint is he won't chase the market. I am not saying BB has given a take it or leave it type offer but he has given Tom and his team of negotiators the lay of the land and 80-90% of what they will ultimately get from the Pats. My heart wants Tom to stay. My fan side coach says we should do everything we can to get him to stay but my head says Tom did not fall short last year, nor did he lead us to the superbowl on his back. The Pats will do their job and it will be next man up. I lean towards the belief that Tom and Pats part ways but I won't complain or be surprised if he stays. Leaving a gig after 20 years is not easy. One more note, if teams do not really show Tom respect and love, this might fuel him to re-engage in the Tommy is disrespected mode that fueled his work ethic in the early years. Remember 199 sticks with him and fueled his drive to show them all that you did not want me, maybe lightening strikes twice.... PS>.. I will change my avatar if Tom leaves this year.... Tom wants to stay, badly BB wants him back, but on his terms Tom wants to go out on his own terms when he feels it is time, not when BB feels it is time Tom would play for free to have that leeway I continue to believe the offers out there will be minimal, and the Pats deal may be the best deal. Tom has to eat his pride and come back if he truly wants another SB Wickersham was clearly right |
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Post by carawaydj on Mar 11, 2020 6:04:33 GMT -5
I see in PFT they are saying the CBA is now going to effect Tom and Patriot's negotiation window because it got pushed out to sat at midnight from thursday at midnight. The theory being the pats and tom do not know what rules will apply. But it seems to me that this does not delay things necessarily. I think that they are just using this angle to get more clicks... First off both sides know there is a possibility of two sets of rules. They could negotiate a deal for both sets of rules and when the CBA votes both sides know it is offer 1 or offer 2. So this should not effect these negotiations. What effects the negotiations is the mindsets of the two parties. 1. Does Tom want to go or want to stay? what conditions does he need to have met to stay besides the contract? 2. Does BB want Tom to go or stay? What conditions does he want met to have him stay? These do not have anything to do with the CBA. The problem we all have is both sides are not advertising what their conditions/concerns are to work this out, it is all speculation. What is interesting is that it is one thing for a person to not leak their intentions, it is another for a group of people or an organization to not leak their feelings. In this day when how someone feels about their bowel movements gets posted on Facebook/Twitter/Snapchat/etc... both sides are not having any real leaks. I think the truth is both Patriots and Tom know where each other stands, Tom wants the opportunity to see how other teams and organizations view him at this moment in time. This will play out so he can find this out. Based on this he will accept what Pats offer or not. BB has made his offer and while he could adjust somethings based on what Tom's viewpoint is he won't chase the market. I am not saying BB has given a take it or leave it type offer but he has given Tom and his team of negotiators the lay of the land and 80-90% of what they will ultimately get from the Pats. My heart wants Tom to stay. My fan side coach says we should do everything we can to get him to stay but my head says Tom did not fall short last year, nor did he lead us to the superbowl on his back. The Pats will do their job and it will be next man up. I lean towards the belief that Tom and Pats part ways but I won't complain or be surprised if he stays. Leaving a gig after 20 years is not easy. One more note, if teams do not really show Tom respect and love, this might fuel him to re-engage in the Tommy is disrespected mode that fueled his work ethic in the early years. Remember 199 sticks with him and fueled his drive to show them all that you did not want me, maybe lightening strikes twice.... PS>.. I will change my avatar if Tom leaves this year.... Tom wants to stay, badly BB wants him back, but on his terms Tom wants to go out on his own terms when he feels it is time, not when BB feels it is time Tom would play for free to have that leeway I continue to believe the offers out there will be minimal, and the Pats deal may be the best deal. Tom has to eat his pride and come back if he truly wants another SB Wickersham was clearly rightYou try too hard to bait Wozzy. Admit it, you enjoy your back and forth with him. |
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 11, 2020 7:09:50 GMT -5
Tom wants to stay, badly - Says who? There may be little to no market for him and he may come back by default.BB wants him back, but on his terms - Says who? He may take him back on short money if he can bench him if he sucks and doesn't handicap them moving forward.Tom wants to go out on his own terms when he feels it is time, not when BB feels it is time - Makes senseTom would play for free to have that leeway - Unlikely. Money = respect at some pointI continue to believe the offers out there will be minimal, and the Pats deal may be the best deal. - Said this at the very beginning and reports of teams going in other directions suggest it's true.Tom has to eat his pride and come back if he truly wants another SB - Maybe.Wickersham was clearly right - Except that part where we examined a bullet point list of "facts" presented in his last hit piece and they all turned out false. |
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Post by rkarp on Mar 11, 2020 7:14:41 GMT -5
Tom wants to stay, badly BB wants him back, but on his terms Tom wants to go out on his own terms when he feels it is time, not when BB feels it is time Tom would play for free to have that leeway I continue to believe the offers out there will be minimal, and the Pats deal may be the best deal. Tom has to eat his pride and come back if he truly wants another SB Wickersham was clearly rightYou try too hard to bait Wozzy. Admit it, you enjoy your back and forth with him. no not at all clearly there is some bitterness between Brady having strong feelings about his play, and BB disagreeing I think it is also clear that Krafts relationship with Brady puts him in the middle, as he clearly wants to move forward with BB for as long as BB wishes. it makes it uncomfortable for all involved Wozzy disagrees, which is fine I have no interest in "baiting" Wozzy. I enjoy his posts and that he disagrees with me on numerous issues. makes for good conversation |
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 11, 2020 7:15:16 GMT -5
You try too hard to bait Wozzy. Admit it, you enjoy your back and forth with him. When posters state something as fact like "Wicker-sham is legit" you'll find them fighting a losing battle years after the fact... it's called an agenda. Rkarp is not unique in that regard, but he is as boneheaded about it as all hell. And yes, he has an unnatural obsession with me, and will defend the press even after they're proven wrong. |
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Post by rkarp on Mar 11, 2020 7:15:28 GMT -5
Tom wants to stay, badly - Says who? There may be little to no market for him and he may come back by default.BB wants him back, but on his terms - Says who? He may take him back on short money if he can bench him if he sucks and doesn't handicap them moving forward.Tom wants to go out on his own terms when he feels it is time, not when BB feels it is time - Makes senseTom would play for free to have that leeway - Unlikely. Money = respect at some pointI continue to believe the offers out there will be minimal, and the Pats deal may be the best deal. - Said this at the very beginning and reports of teams going in other directions suggest it's true.Tom has to eat his pride and come back if he truly wants another SB - Maybe.Wickersham was clearly right - Except that part where we examined a bullet point list of "facts" presented in his last hit piece and they all turned out false.when you ask "Says who?", says me I am posting my opinion |
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Post by rkarp on Mar 11, 2020 7:17:15 GMT -5
You try too hard to bait Wozzy. Admit it, you enjoy your back and forth with him. When posters state something as fact like "Wicker-sham is legit" you'll find them fighting a losing battle years after the fact... it's called an agenda. Rkarp is not unique in that regard, but he is as boneheaded about it as all hell. And yes, he has an unnatural obsession with me, and will defend the press even after they're proven wrong. where we disagree, as we always have, is the "proven" part what you say is "proven", isn't |
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 11, 2020 7:22:04 GMT -5
where we disagree, as we always have, is the "proven" part what you say is "proven", isn't The lies in the Wicker-sham piece were dismantled by other media members, facts and time. His reporting of some unrest 4 years ago has no bearing on now. This is similar to Max Kellerman saying Tom would fall off a cliff 5 years ago (or longer, it's been so long I forgot) and taking a victory lap. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 7:23:49 GMT -5
Worst Off-season since 1978. Not because of Free Agency, or what the situation is between TB and Team.
It is the worst because of all the Bullshit.
Just like 1978.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 7:29:12 GMT -5
Like I said the NFL Network dropped the ball, hahaha.
As soon as the Patriot season ended, they should have had a 24 hr. 7 day a week Tom Brady Discussion Channel, until he signs.
Then one after he signs till the Season Starts.
TFB12, Channel.
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Post by wazzu on Mar 11, 2020 8:08:40 GMT -5
You try too hard to bait Wozzy. Admit it, you enjoy your back and forth with him. no not at all clearly there is some bitterness between Brady having strong feelings about his play, and BB disagreeing I think it is also clear that Krafts relationship with Brady puts him in the middle, as he clearly wants to move forward with BB for as long as BB wishes. it makes it uncomfortable for all involved Wozzy disagrees, which is fine I have no interest in "baiting" Wozzy. I enjoy his posts and that he disagrees with me on numerous issues. makes for good conversation I still don’t see where people are coming up with this “clear bitterness between Brady and Belichick”. They sure seem extremely respectful and happy together to me. If Brady leaves NE, it won’t be because of a fake rift with Belichick. |
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Post by carawaydj on Mar 11, 2020 8:46:37 GMT -5
no not at all clearly there is some bitterness between Brady having strong feelings about his play, and BB disagreeing I think it is also clear that Krafts relationship with Brady puts him in the middle, as he clearly wants to move forward with BB for as long as BB wishes. it makes it uncomfortable for all involved Wozzy disagrees, which is fine I have no interest in "baiting" Wozzy. I enjoy his posts and that he disagrees with me on numerous issues. makes for good conversation I still don’t see where people are coming up with this “clear bitterness between Brady and Belichick”. They sure seem extremely respectful and happy together to me. If Brady leaves NE, it won’t be because of a fake rift with Belichick. I see the middle ground. Ask yourself this. Could you possibly work with the same demanding boss for 20 years without some friction developing? Wouldn't it get old? Even if there is a lot of mutual respect between them you just gotta expect some tension too. 20 years is a very loooooong time to work for the same boss. If I think of the best boss I ever had I still can't imagine working for him for 20 years without going batshit crazy. I suspect that is probably where the truth lies. |
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Post by rkarp on Mar 11, 2020 8:53:18 GMT -5
no not at all clearly there is some bitterness between Brady having strong feelings about his play, and BB disagreeing I think it is also clear that Krafts relationship with Brady puts him in the middle, as he clearly wants to move forward with BB for as long as BB wishes. it makes it uncomfortable for all involved Wozzy disagrees, which is fine I have no interest in "baiting" Wozzy. I enjoy his posts and that he disagrees with me on numerous issues. makes for good conversation I still don’t see where people are coming up with this “clear bitterness between Brady and Belichick”. They sure seem extremely respectful and happy together to me. If Brady leaves NE, it won’t be because of a fake rift with Belichick. I don't think it is a lack of respect. I think they each respect the hell out of each other simply BB feels the end is closer than ever, and he wants to protect the near future and milk the present, as he should as the steward of the franchise TB feels he is still at the top of his game, and wants to make sure he controls his own destiny and goes out on his terms I do not think they hate each other I do not think their is lack of respect I do think they do not see eye to eye on how to plan the "2nd season" of a contract, never mind a 3rd clearly, they can find middle ground for this coming season. I think they differ on a 2nd season imo, its as simple as that |
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Post by wazzu on Mar 11, 2020 9:27:48 GMT -5
I still don’t see where people are coming up with this “clear bitterness between Brady and Belichick”. They sure seem extremely respectful and happy together to me. If Brady leaves NE, it won’t be because of a fake rift with Belichick. I don't think it is a lack of respect. I think they each respect the hell out of each other simply BB feels the end is closer than ever, and he wants to protect the near future and milk the present, as he should as the steward of the franchise TB feels he is still at the top of his game, and wants to make sure he controls his own destiny and goes out on his terms I do not think they hate each other I do not think their is lack of respect I do think they do not see eye to eye on how to plan the "2nd season" of a contract, never mind a 3rd clearly, they can find middle ground for this coming season. I think they differ on a 2nd season imo, its as simple as that That’s a reasonable theory. I still maintain that this is all speculation and we don’t know anything. |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 11, 2020 9:34:42 GMT -5
I've heard Brady hates Belichick
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Post by rkarp on Mar 11, 2020 9:35:32 GMT -5
I don't think it is a lack of respect. I think they each respect the hell out of each other simply BB feels the end is closer than ever, and he wants to protect the near future and milk the present, as he should as the steward of the franchise TB feels he is still at the top of his game, and wants to make sure he controls his own destiny and goes out on his terms I do not think they hate each other I do not think their is lack of respect I do think they do not see eye to eye on how to plan the "2nd season" of a contract, never mind a 3rd clearly, they can find middle ground for this coming season. I think they differ on a 2nd season imo, its as simple as that That’s a reasonable theory. I still maintain that this is all speculation and we don’t know anything. I do think we can believe what we have been told by the individuals themselves TB wants to play until he is 45, as long as he is playing to what he believes his standards are. RK hopes that TB plays in NE BB feels TB is the GOAT, but he will do what he feels is best for the franchise |
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Post by rkarp on Mar 11, 2020 9:35:58 GMT -5
I've heard Brady hates Belichick he probably will after the 18th |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 11, 2020 9:37:19 GMT -5
I hear Brady was only good with footballs that had a tiny bit less air in them.
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Post by patriotsnumero1fan on Mar 11, 2020 9:59:23 GMT -5
He will be back here. Still have confidence they will get this done.
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Post by lowfbiq on Mar 11, 2020 10:06:45 GMT -5
I heard Brady makes everyone he plays with so much better.
I mean no way they ever had very similar, the same, or even better stats elsewhere playing with other non GOAT QBs...
I heard the Pats never have any talent or good players
I heard the GM is constantly killing the coach
I heard Brady can't spend any of his mental energy helping his new receivers get on the same page as him. ...even though I heard football is easy to Brady now cause he has all the answers to the test. Hmmmm, must be spending all that extra mental energy not used on easy football starting up production companies
Clearly Brady should go elsewhere and have a much easier path to success, poor guy has had the worst luck of the draw stuck in NE. Oh, wait....
Brady will play wherever the hell he damn well pleases out of his available options, as always has been the case
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