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Post by quagmire3 on Apr 18, 2024 11:44:04 GMT -5
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Post by benchwarmer on Apr 18, 2024 12:30:05 GMT -5
Of course they are open to offers. Someone wants to give them a ridiculous deal, they'll do it. All the teams are open to offers. Thats very different than making offers or shopping your pick.
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 12:44:50 GMT -5
Of course they are open to offers. Someone wants to give them a ridiculous deal, they'll do it. All the teams are open to offers. Thats very different than making offers or shopping your pick. while I too at first was thinking a trade back for additional picks was a good move, I am now thinking it would take a triple ridiculous offer for the team to not draft a QB. I believe they stay at #3 and pick a QB |
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Post by backbay on Apr 18, 2024 13:05:28 GMT -5
Of course they are open to offers. Someone wants to give them a ridiculous deal, they'll do it. All the teams are open to offers. Thats very different than making offers or shopping your pick. while I too at first was thinking a trade back for additional picks was a good move, I am now thinking it would take a triple ridiculous offer for the team to not draft a QB. I believe they stay at #3 and pick a QB I think trades to two teams makes sense; especially if the QB that they really want is NOT on the board when the the #3 pick draft pick comes up against the 10 minute clock: 1) NYG. The #3 for their 2024 #6 (1st rd), #47 (2nd rd) , #70 (3rd rd) and their 2025 1st round pick. Patriots can pick up a QB or OT at the #6 or a QB/OT/WR with their #34 and #47.
2. Minnesota. The #3 for their 2024 #11 (1st rd), #23 (1st rd), #108 (4th rd), and 2025 1st round pick. Patriots can pick QB/LT/WR with picks #11, #23, and #34.
I'd prefer option 1
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 18, 2024 13:12:58 GMT -5
A smokescreen for what?
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Post by backbay on Apr 18, 2024 13:16:20 GMT -5
a smokescreen that is common for all teams this time of the year....lol. It's not like the Patriots are the only team that are throwing smoke and mirrors right now. |
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 18, 2024 13:21:31 GMT -5
a smokescreen that is common for all teams this time of the year....lol. It's not like the Patriots are the only team that are throwing smoke and mirrors right now. I know what a smokescreen is in the context of the draft, but what is NE trying to accomplish with it? They have the #3 pick, and can take whichever available QB they prefer at #3. Who are they trying to deceive? How does saying they're open to trading the pick present a smokescreen? |
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 13:30:05 GMT -5
while I too at first was thinking a trade back for additional picks was a good move, I am now thinking it would take a triple ridiculous offer for the team to not draft a QB. I believe they stay at #3 and pick a QB I think trades to two teams makes sense; especially if the QB that they really want is NOT on the board when the the #3 pick draft pick comes up against the 10 minute clock: 1) NYG. The #3 for their 2024 #6 (1st rd), #47 (2nd rd) , #70 (3rd rd) and their 2025 1st round pick. Patriots can pick up a QB or OT at the #6 or a QB/OT/WR with their #34 and #47.
2. Minnesota. The #3 for their 2024 #11 (1st rd), #23 (1st rd), #108 (4th rd), and 2025 1st round pick. Patriots can pick QB/LT/WR with picks #11, #23, and #34.
I'd prefer option 1
for me, the Giants pick is not enough. I believe they will need two 1st round picks this year and one 1st round pick next year to move. |
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Post by backbay on Apr 18, 2024 13:42:04 GMT -5
a smokescreen that is common for all teams this time of the year....lol. It's not like the Patriots are the only team that are throwing smoke and mirrors right now. I know what a smokescreen is in the context of the draft, but what is NE trying to accomplish with it? They have the #3 pick, and can take whichever available QB they prefer at #3. Who are they trying to deceive? How does saying they're open to trading the pick present a smokescreen? but are they really open to trading out or is that a smokescreen? |
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Post by backbay on Apr 18, 2024 13:44:56 GMT -5
I think trades to two teams makes sense; especially if the QB that they really want is NOT on the board when the the #3 pick draft pick comes up against the 10 minute clock: 1) NYG. The #3 for their 2024 #6 (1st rd), #47 (2nd rd) , #70 (3rd rd) and their 2025 1st round pick. Patriots can pick up a QB or OT at the #6 or a QB/OT/WR with their #34 and #47.
2. Minnesota. The #3 for their 2024 #11 (1st rd), #23 (1st rd), #108 (4th rd), and 2025 1st round pick. Patriots can pick QB/LT/WR with picks #11, #23, and #34.
I'd prefer option 1
for me, the Giants pick is not enough. I believe they will need two 1st round picks this year and one 1st round pick next year to move. but that would be only give pats 4 picks in first 3 rounds in this year's draft; whereas, the Giants move would give them 5 picks in first 3 rounds, and two first round picks in 2025. |
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 18, 2024 14:05:54 GMT -5
I know what a smokescreen is in the context of the draft, but what is NE trying to accomplish with it? They have the #3 pick, and can take whichever available QB they prefer at #3. Who are they trying to deceive? How does saying they're open to trading the pick present a smokescreen? but are they really open to trading out or is that a smokescreen? Again, a smokescreen for what? Who are they trying to deceive with this info? |
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Post by wazzu on Apr 18, 2024 14:16:37 GMT -5
but are they really open to trading out or is that a smokescreen? Again, a smokescreen for what? Who are they trying to deceive with this info? My gut feeling is that they haven’t gotten the types of trade offers that some here think they might get. I think they are trying to drum up interest and see what the best offers really are. I think they are hoping for an offer similar to what SF gave for the Trey a Lance pick, but it wouldn’t shock me if they aren’t getting offered that type of pick package. I think they are just trying to see what the best trade offer is, but in the end I don’t think they will be happy with trade offers and pick at #3. Just hunches. |
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 14:20:56 GMT -5
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 14:22:29 GMT -5
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Post by quagmire3 on Apr 18, 2024 15:16:28 GMT -5
a smokescreen that is common for all teams this time of the year....lol. It's not like the Patriots are the only team that are throwing smoke and mirrors right now. I know what a smokescreen is in the context of the draft, but what is NE trying to accomplish with it? They have the #3 pick, and can take whichever available QB they prefer at #3. Who are they trying to deceive? How does saying they're open to trading the pick present a smokescreen? It says that although the like the QB's they are open to trading. That is alerting other teams to start putting their BEST offers together for #3 and playing the teams off each other. Or the smokescreen may just be they are not trading no matter what! |
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 15:30:09 GMT -5
for me, the Giants pick is not enough. I believe they will need two 1st round picks this year and one 1st round pick next year to move. but that would be only give pats 4 picks in first 3 rounds in this year's draft; whereas, the Giants move would give them 5 picks in first 3 rounds, and two first round picks in 2025. not enough |
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 15:31:30 GMT -5
I know what a smokescreen is in the context of the draft, but what is NE trying to accomplish with it? They have the #3 pick, and can take whichever available QB they prefer at #3. Who are they trying to deceive? How does saying they're open to trading the pick present a smokescreen? It says that although the like the QB's they are open to trading. That is alerting other teams to start putting their BEST offers together for #3 and playing the teams off each other. Or the smokescreen may just be they are not trading no matter what! I would think teams would make best/serious offers while the Pats are on the clock, which would allow teams to know which QB was available at #3. a team might offer a boat load for Maye but not Daniels, or vice versa |
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 16:01:42 GMT -5
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 18, 2024 16:21:15 GMT -5
I know what a smokescreen is in the context of the draft, but what is NE trying to accomplish with it? They have the #3 pick, and can take whichever available QB they prefer at #3. Who are they trying to deceive? How does saying they're open to trading the pick present a smokescreen? It says that although the like the QB's they are open to trading. That is alerting other teams to start putting their BEST offers together for #3 and playing the teams off each other. Or the smokescreen may just be they are not trading no matter what! That's not a smokescreen though. I also don't think other teams have to wait for Wolf to advertise it before they call to gauge interest and/or make an offer. |
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 16:28:10 GMT -5
but are they really open to trading out or is that a smokescreen? Again, a smokescreen for what? Who are they trying to deceive with this info? lets hope they are not confusing themselves |
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 16:45:19 GMT -5
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Post by section136 on Apr 18, 2024 17:03:22 GMT -5
I don't see any need to communicate with the other 31 teams in this way. IMO it's more likely pointed toward fan's and the media. As far as their motives for this message goes, that would just be speculation and there's too much of that out and about already.
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Post by section136 on Apr 18, 2024 17:06:35 GMT -5
Again, a smokescreen for what? Who are they trying to deceive with this info? lets hope they are not confusing themselves do you consider them idiots? |
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Post by rkarp on Apr 18, 2024 17:15:01 GMT -5
lets hope they are not confusing themselves do you consider them idiots? I will tell you in 1 week |
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Post by wonderdrums on Apr 18, 2024 17:41:10 GMT -5
If they really want to smokescreen they should tell everyone that will listen they want MHJ. I believe teams that really want to draft him will offer “the bag” to NE to get him. AZ has the 4 &27 but don’t think NE will select him, but what if they did? How bad do they want him?
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