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Post by wonderdrums on Apr 7, 2024 9:56:26 GMT -5
I googled, “ Did the Bills save money by trading Diggs.”
Answer: The Bills will carry $31.1 million in dead cap space with the Diggs trade, but will save $19 million in cash by trading Diggs now -- giving them $19 million in freed-up cap space for 2025 by having Diggs off the books. They'll have a projected $4.5 million in available cap space for 2024.(3 days ago)
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 7, 2024 10:02:00 GMT -5
I googled, “ Did the Bills save money by trading Diggs.” Answer: The Bills will carry $31.1 million in dead cap space with the Diggs trade, but will save $19 million in cash by trading Diggs now -- giving them $19 million in freed-up cap space for 2025 by having Diggs off the books. They'll have a projected $4.5 million in available cap space for 2024.(3 days ago) Yeah, they're flush up against the cap. They're letting a lot of their best vet players go because of the salary cap. If the cap was crap, they'd keep these vets to remain competitive now and draft replacements to supplant them when they finally fall off.
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Post by arizonapat on Apr 7, 2024 11:18:56 GMT -5
Hmmm, let's get this straight, the Bills opted to increase the cap number for Diggs this year because they are in cap hell? Adding 5 mil to their cap is how you get out of cap hell? Bwhhaahahahahahaaa! The genius strikes again. Speaking of teams flush up against the cap, the Jets started the year with negative "cap space" and then spend 125 million, proving "THE CAP IS CRAP"
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Post by wonderdrums on Apr 7, 2024 11:27:26 GMT -5
I googled, “ Did the Bills save money by trading Diggs.” Answer: The Bills will carry $31.1 million in dead cap space with the Diggs trade, but will save $19 million in cash by trading Diggs now -- giving them $19 million in freed-up cap space for 2025 by having Diggs off the books. They'll have a projected $4.5 million in available cap space for 2024.(3 days ago) Yeah, they're flush up against the cap. They're letting a lot of their best vet players go because of the salary cap. If the cap was crap, they'd keep these vets to remain competitive now and draft replacements to supplant them when they finally fall off. Drafting replacements is the ideal world for sure. The Pats issue is they don’t have players to fall off and need replacing. 😂 I am happy to see they retained Duggar and Onwenu to respectable deals. Given todays market I don’t feel like they overpaid for either player. I’m hoping the Pats can obtain enough talent along the o-line to have the flexibility to move Onwenu back to guard. I expect a few of last years OL picks to progress and I expect LT to be addressed early on the draft. This is the biggest pick to me because it won’t matter who’s at QB if they can’t protect him. I really like the safety combo of Duggar and Peppers. They’re only going to get better together with experience . These guys are still in their prime and should cause problems for a lot of opposing offenses going forward. It’s going to be fun to watch. Back to Diggs. I’d love a player of his caliber on this roster because they need it bad. I like this years draft class though. There’s at least 7-8 guys If he excited about within the first three rounds. Fingers crossed they get it right.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 7, 2024 11:38:29 GMT -5
Drafting replacements is the ideal world for sure. The Pats issue is they don’t have players to fall off and need replacing. 😂 I am happy to see they retained Duggar and Onwenu to respectable deals. Given todays market I don’t feel like they overpaid for either player. I’m hoping the Pats can obtain enough talent along the o-line to have the flexibility to move Onwenu back to guard. I expect a few of last years OL picks to progress and I expect LT to be addressed early on the draft. This is the biggest pick to me because it won’t matter who’s at QB if they can’t protect him. I really like the safety combo of Duggar and Peppers. They’re only going to get better together with experience . These guys are still in their prime and should cause problems for a lot of opposing offenses going forward. It’s going to be fun to watch. Back to Diggs. I’d love a player of his caliber on this roster because they need it bad. I like this years draft class though. There’s at least 7-8 guys If he excited about within the first three rounds. Fingers crossed they get it right. The Pats aren't far away, if the new regime knocks it out of the park with the draft this season they could contend instantly IMO. Agree on Duggar, Onwenu and all the other guys of their own signed. For Duggar it probably matches or slightly exceeds the best offer he received. Mapu hasn't proven anything yet, and SS's generally play the weak side linebacker position on the Pat's D. We want his speed, especially with no true free safety on the team. Solid value for the Pats. Diggs is a great athlete at the position, but he wasn't transcendent by any means. He went in the 5th round. He is a similar athlete to Malcolm Mitchell or Tre Nixon, unlike Mitchell he stayed healthy and unlike Nixon he could catch the ball. He's not unique, you can find these guys in middle rounds of the draft.
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Post by thejuice on Apr 7, 2024 12:42:40 GMT -5
Is it income? Is it capital gains? Is it a gift? In any event, you can bet that the IRS will determine a way to get their piece! This is a complete joke perpetrated by a very spoiled, egotistical athlete. Buffalo should be glad to be rid of him. Well...it's his money. Given how much dead cap the Bills absorbed this season to deal away a productive WR, it's fair to say he must have been a HUGE turd in the locker room and a big headache. You don't pay that much to get rid of a WR who has shown that much consistent production without a damned good reason. thats the thing though... the last half of last season, he wasnt all that productive. hes still a good wr.. but hes not the same guy he used to be, and clearly has been a malcontent for a long while now. a team like buffalo supposedly still going for a SB title, doesnt trade a player that is still a great player regardless if hes somewhat of a malcontent. bills win this deal.
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Post by texaspat on Apr 7, 2024 13:20:10 GMT -5
I'll remind y'all of 2010, when the Patriots made the decision to trade Randy Moss to Minnesota. Moving on from Moss freed Tom Brady to do what he did best - spread the ball around. The subtraction of Moss actually improved the Patriots offense. My guess is that Josh Allen will feel freed up too, and that the Buffalo offense will be fine. Although Buffalo took it on the chin with a huge dead money cap hit for 2024, they rid themselves of the lucrative, bloated Diggs' contract that extended for 3 more years. Don't think that Houston GM Nick Caserio is oblivious to Diggs being a big-time diva. Nick got Diggs to agree to tear up his Buffalo contract and agree to just a one year deal - which allows Diggs to be an UFA next year. Nick did this to incentivize Diggs to be at his best in 2024, before he moves on to his location of choice, the Dallas Cowboys: billswire.usatoday.com/2024/04/05/stefon-diggs-contract-buffalo-buffalo-houston-texans-trade-nfl/As for the Jests taking over the AFC East, I remind you that they are the Jests - and that Murphy's Law still reigns in Green Gotham. The same type of predictions about the Jests rise to relevance were made last year. How did that work out? In addition, Gag Green is still allegedly being coached by Robert "all gas, no brake" Saleh...which does not bode well for them. Moss was grousing over his contract, it was time to get rid of him… but it didn’t make the team better from a personnel standpoint. The same team with a happy paid Moss is a better team. RESPONSE: Negative. The Patriots were wise not to overpay for the 33 year old Moss, and they're offense improved without him. I know it's been nearly 15 years since the trade, but moving on from Moss opened up the offense and freed Tom Brady from having to force passes into the fading WR to keep him happy. Wes Welker and TEs Gronk and Hernandez became the focal points of the passing game, as the Patriots finished the season as the #1 seed in the AFC with a 14-2 record. Unfortunately, they took the 2010 Jests lightly, and were outplayed by them in the playoffs - only a couple of weeks after blowing them out, 45-3.
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Post by rkarp on Apr 8, 2024 8:31:55 GMT -5
I googled, “ Did the Bills save money by trading Diggs.” Answer: The Bills will carry $31.1 million in dead cap space with the Diggs trade, but will save $19 million in cash by trading Diggs now -- giving them $19 million in freed-up cap space for 2025 by having Diggs off the books. They'll have a projected $4.5 million in available cap space for 2024.(3 days ago) while saving $19m in cash by trading Diggs now is true, his 2025 contract was going to guarantee (another $20m) shortly. thats approx $40m in CASH savings for the team. as mentioned, the "dead cap money" is accounting for his signing bonus, which is cash the team had paid him when he signed his deal a few seasons back. the Bills cash savings is approx $40m
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Post by digger0862 on Apr 8, 2024 10:15:14 GMT -5
Yes, you can usually save money by cutting or trading your best players.
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Post by wonderdrums on Apr 8, 2024 10:58:26 GMT -5
I googled, “ Did the Bills save money by trading Diggs.” Answer: The Bills will carry $31.1 million in dead cap space with the Diggs trade, but will save $19 million in cash by trading Diggs now -- giving them $19 million in freed-up cap space for 2025 by having Diggs off the books. They'll have a projected $4.5 million in available cap space for 2024.(3 days ago) while saving $19m in cash by trading Diggs now is true, his 2025 contract was going to guarantee (another $20m) shortly. thats approx $40m in CASH savings for the team. as mentioned, the "dead cap money" is accounting for his signing bonus, which is cash the team had paid him when he signed his deal a few seasons back. the Bills cash savings is approx $40m You can add whatever numbers you want but it clearly states the 19 million is in 2025. The 31 million is 2024 cap hit or dead money they can’t use this year. I suspect their 19 million and your 20 million is the same figure which still isn’t 40 million. Edit: I didn’t mean to come off as dickish in my reply Karp, but sometimes I don’t understand why posters can’t take clearly written figures at face value. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 8, 2024 11:40:49 GMT -5
Yes, you can usually save money by cutting or trading your best players. Hahahaha! This ^ The cap is crap as long as you know you can let all your best players walk.
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Post by rkarp on Apr 8, 2024 12:41:59 GMT -5
while saving $19m in cash by trading Diggs now is true, his 2025 contract was going to guarantee (another $20m) shortly. thats approx $40m in CASH savings for the team. as mentioned, the "dead cap money" is accounting for his signing bonus, which is cash the team had paid him when he signed his deal a few seasons back. the Bills cash savings is approx $40m You can add whatever numbers you want but it clearly states the 19 million is in 2025. The 31 million is 2024 cap hit or dead money they can’t use this year. I suspect their 19 million and your 20 million is the same figure which still isn’t 40 million. Edit: I didn’t mean to come off as dickish in my reply Karp, but sometimes I don’t understand why posters can’t take clearly written figures at face value. 🤷🏻♂️ they did save the $19m in 2025. what you left out is that they also saved $19-$20m in 2024. thats the $40m you are not dickish.
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Post by wonderdrums on Apr 8, 2024 16:30:25 GMT -5
You can add whatever numbers you want but it clearly states the 19 million is in 2025. The 31 million is 2024 cap hit or dead money they can’t use this year. I suspect their 19 million and your 20 million is the same figure which still isn’t 40 million. Edit: I didn’t mean to come off as dickish in my reply Karp, but sometimes I don’t understand why posters can’t take clearly written figures at face value. 🤷🏻♂️ they did save the $19m in 2025. what you left out is that they also saved $19-$20m in 2024. thats the $40m you are not dickish. They didn’t save 20 million this year. They ate 31 million instead.
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Post by rkarp on Apr 8, 2024 16:37:11 GMT -5
they did save the $19m in 2025. what you left out is that they also saved $19-$20m in 2024. thats the $40m you are not dickish. They didn’t save 20 million this year. They ate 31 million instead. they did not. they paid Diggs a signing bonus when he signed his deal. they accounted for that bonus equally thru out the life of his deal. once he was traded, the total accounting for the bonus tolled into this year, rather than spread out over the life of the deal. the signing bonus money was paid when the deal was signed. Diggs base salary for 2024, $19m trandered to the TExans the Bills will not pay Diggs any money this year. they will save $19m this year. they will also save $19-$20m next year. therefore the cash savings will be approx $40m. the $31m is a dead cap figure. the $31m was paid at signing.
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