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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 15, 2020 19:39:26 GMT -5
lol what happened to Chargers and Raiders lol? |
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Post by agcsbill on Mar 15, 2020 19:48:10 GMT -5
BB has been the most consistent GM since he took over the team. He values players different then Fans do. Ask Ty Law. you are 1000% correct most likely the key to the teams success the names on the list are endless, including HOF'ers and close to HOF'ers BB makes business/football decisions not emotional ones. Most fans make emotional decisions. |
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Mar 15, 2020 19:56:22 GMT -5
lol what happened to Chargers and Raiders lol? TB quickly running out of options. Running out of leverage. He will be forced to come back on BB's terms. |
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Post by muzwell on Mar 15, 2020 20:52:31 GMT -5
lol what happened to Chargers and Raiders lol? He’s going to waste his last shot with a rebuild in a division he can’t possibly win? I think not. Tampa or bust, er Foxboro. |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 16, 2020 0:23:42 GMT -5
lol what happened to Chargers and Raiders lol? He’s going to waste his last shot with a rebuild in a division he can’t possibly win? I think not. Tampa or bust, er Foxboro. Every time Tom Brady has been given a top 10 supporting cast he has delivered. |
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Post by carawaydj on Mar 16, 2020 2:21:56 GMT -5
He’s going to waste his last shot with a rebuild in a division he can’t possibly win? I think not. Tampa or bust, er Foxboro. Every time Tom Brady has been given a top 10 supporting cast he has delivered. ?? Are you sure about that? In 2009 we had the 6th ranked offense and the 5th ranked defense. We got rolled by the Ravens. |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 16, 2020 8:48:07 GMT -5
Every time Tom Brady has been given a top 10 supporting cast he has delivered. ?? Are you sure about that? In 2009 we had the 6th ranked offense and the 5th ranked defense. We got rolled by the Ravens. Is that the year Brady came back from the worst injury he's ever had and BB infamously said, if you double Moss and bracket WW we have nothing else and then WW tore his acl before the post season? Yeah I'm sure. |
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Post by lowfbiq on Mar 16, 2020 8:58:43 GMT -5
He’s going to waste his last shot with a rebuild in a division he can’t possibly win? I think not. Tampa or bust, er Foxboro. Tom Brady has been given a top 10 supporting cast he has delivered. delivered what? Superbowl title and trophy or bust. Was scoring 23 fewer points than their season avg in the 2007 SB delivering? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 9:05:19 GMT -5
Remember that great Drive of 14 plays and 43 yards, in which we gave it up on Downs in that game. 8 minutes and 17 seconds too.
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 16, 2020 9:08:09 GMT -5
delivered what? Superbowl title and trophy or bust. Was scoring 23 fewer points than their season avg in the 2007 SB delivering? C'mon man, they had no weapons in 2007. It wasn't like the weapons they had in 2001... Wiggins, Patrick Pass, David Patten... those guys were next level. |
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Post by muzwell on Mar 16, 2020 9:08:51 GMT -5
?? Are you sure about that? In 2009 we had the 6th ranked offense and the 5th ranked defense. We got rolled by the Ravens. Is that the year Brady came back from the worst injury he's ever had and BB infamously said, if you double Moss and bracket WW we have nothing else and then WW tore his acl before the post season? Yeah I'm sure. At the risk of disagreeing with BB, members of the 2009 offense not named Moss or Welker scored 30 TDs. Moss and Welker combined for 17. |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 16, 2020 9:09:01 GMT -5
Every time Tom Brady has been given a top 10 supporting cast he has delivered. delivered what? Superbowl title and trophy or bust. Was scoring 23 fewer points than their season avg in the 2007 SB delivering? No I don't consider superbowl victories the only measure of success. I am not a spoiled whiney Patriots fan. |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 16, 2020 9:09:47 GMT -5
Is that the year Brady came back from the worst injury he's ever had and BB infamously said, if you double Moss and bracket WW we have nothing else and then WW tore his acl before the post season? Yeah I'm sure. At the risk of disagreeing with BB, members of the 2009 offense not named Moss or Welker scored 30 TDs. Moss and Welker combined for 17. But you did. |
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Post by muzwell on Mar 16, 2020 9:11:08 GMT -5
At the risk of disagreeing with BB, members of the 2009 offense not named Moss or Welker scored 30 TDs. Moss and Welker combined for 17. But you did. I did. And therefore I'm wrong. Must be. |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 16, 2020 9:11:35 GMT -5
delivered what? Superbowl title and trophy or bust. Was scoring 23 fewer points than their season avg in the 2007 SB delivering? C'mon man, they had no weapons in 2007. It wasn't like the weapons they had in 2001... Wiggins, Patrick Pass, David Patten... those guys were next level. Ahh the old argument. Getting Randy Moss and WW wasn't worth it because the ball bounced a different way on superbowl Sunday. What a great point. We didn't win in 06 with Reche Cadlwell either. Or 2019 with Phillip Dorsett. |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 16, 2020 9:12:17 GMT -5
I did. And therefore I'm wrong. Must be. Bill has 20 million in dead money and no QB for 2020. Hope for you yet |
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Post by carawaydj on Mar 16, 2020 9:13:13 GMT -5
?? Are you sure about that? In 2009 we had the 6th ranked offense and the 5th ranked defense. We got rolled by the Ravens. Is that the year Brady came back from the worst injury he's ever had and BB infamously said, if you double Moss and bracket WW we have nothing else and then WW tore his acl before the post season? Yeah I'm sure. I literally just picked one random season where we did not win a SB. I'm sure there are others. I'm equally sure there will be an excuse for those too  |
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Post by lowfbiq on Mar 16, 2020 9:15:19 GMT -5
delivered what? Superbowl title and trophy or bust. Was scoring 23 fewer points than their season avg in the 2007 SB delivering? No I don't consider superbowl victories the only measure of success. I am not a spoiled whiney Patriots fan. You play to win the game. One common goal each year, winning the SB. There are only two rules: 1) Always be #1 2) Always remember rule #1 |
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 16, 2020 9:17:09 GMT -5
Ahh the old argument. Getting Randy Moss and WW wasn't worth it because the ball bounced a different way on superbowl Sunday. What a great point. We didn't win in 06 with Reche Cadlwell either. Or 2019 with Phillip Dorsett. They won in 2018 with Phillip Dorsett leading them in postseason TD's... in 2019 he sucked. A strange phenomenon that nobody can explain, especially since Dorsett had two TD's in game one of 2019? But Brady remained the same, it was all three rookies and all the vet WR's who failed simultaneously. |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 16, 2020 9:17:49 GMT -5
No I don't consider superbowl victories the only measure of success. I am not a spoiled whiney Patriots fan. You play to win the game. One common goal each year, winning the SB. There are only two rules: 1) Always be #1 2) Always remember rule #1 Here is a Patriots fan who considers the 2007 season a waste and failure. 30 other teams failed that year too. The difference is we shattered every record in the book while utterly failing. We put our pants on 1 leg at a time like everyone else. The only difference is while we are putting our pants on, we make Gold Records! |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 16, 2020 9:18:32 GMT -5
Ahh the old argument. Getting Randy Moss and WW wasn't worth it because the ball bounced a different way on superbowl Sunday. What a great point. We didn't win in 06 with Reche Cadlwell either. Or 2019 with Phillip Dorsett. They won in 2018 with Phillip Dorsett leading them in postseason TD's... in 2019 he sucked. A strange phenomenon that nobody can explain, especially since Dorsett had two TD's in game one of 2019? But Brady remained the same, it was all three rookies and all the vet WR's who failed simultaneously. #Bradysfault. Wozzys theme 24 hours a day. |
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Post by TrueChamp on Mar 16, 2020 9:19:56 GMT -5
Is that the year Brady came back from the worst injury he's ever had and BB infamously said, if you double Moss and bracket WW we have nothing else and then WW tore his acl before the post season? Yeah I'm sure. I literally just picked one random season where we did not win a SB. I'm sure there are others. I'm equally sure there will be an excuse for those too I guess I shouldn't have said, Everytime Brady gets a good supporting cast on offense he wins a superbowl". Oh that's right I didn't. |
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Post by Wozzy on Mar 16, 2020 9:24:39 GMT -5
#Bradysfault. Wozzys theme 24 hours a day. Says the guy who during the Dolphins game in week 16 said Tom is playing great and was blaming the weapons... despite the announcers and every poster on the game thread pointing out how he was sailing passes and playing like shit. How about you just admit that Tom is 43 years old, pouted all last season despite the team getting him AB, Sanu and tried about as hard as they could (spending to the cap)? |
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Post by lowfbiq on Mar 16, 2020 9:25:27 GMT -5
Kevin Faulk, Randy Moss, Julian Edleman, Ben Watson, etc, must have secretly forced Brady to throw THREE interceptions in the 2009 playoff loss.
The other supporting cast must have somehow taken away Brady's near famous pocket presence spidy sense to have absolutely no idea that strip sack was coming when he had TONS of room to both step up in the pocket or slide.
That's FOUR turnovers in one game right there. A couple of them deep in the Patriots end. Damn Brady's supporting cast. Damn them to hell.
Poor Teflon Tom, guys never had a bad play in his life, always getting blamed. Prayers for Tommy.
...and does any of that mean Brady is not the GOAT? F no, but holy cripes it is OK to say things as they are/were.
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Post by carawaydj on Mar 16, 2020 9:26:55 GMT -5
I literally just picked one random season where we did not win a SB. I'm sure there are others. I'm equally sure there will be an excuse for those too I guess I shouldn't have said, Everytime Brady gets a good supporting cast on offense he wins a superbowl". Oh that's right I didn't.Are you ignoring the social distancing and partying with some of the other wordsmiths here? Shame on you. When you said "Every time Tom Brady has been given a top 10 supporting cast he has delivered." I just assumed you meant he delivered a Lombardi. I didn't realize you meant anything from pizza to a winning season. |
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